Originally Posted by beyond
just imagine two or more slightly different curves - one a touch flatter than the other because it has a longer radius - that blend into each other. Deeper = quicker, so some have deeper in front, some in back, some at both ends.
Originally Posted by Philpug
The tip is wider than the tail and both are wider than the waist. Put the ski up on edge and it makes a turn. Simple enough for a 5 year old?
Like mentioned, there are more than one ski out there that are designed this way. Don't get hung up on the numbers or elliptical or multi-radius.
So, you guys are obviously both right. Beyond actually answered the question, and Phil honored the request to treat the OP like he was five.
I am posting because this is a stark side-by-side example of a phenomenon I've seen here around gear. Phil, you have a very strong tendency to answer questions on EpicSki as though the asker were in your shop, where your job is to sell skis. I have not the slightest doubt, by the way, that your M.O. for selling skis is to take the long view and provide honest and expert service and advice on a variety of fronts, to keep people coming back, in addition to the obvious function of having inventory. I have even enjoyed the benefit of this approach to retail personally, when you lent me a pair of skis for a day. I have referred people to you who actually bought skis, and will continue to do that enthusiastically.
Meanwhile, I worked in retail a lot in my younger days, and am not stupid about it. I worked selling wine and bikes - two items which people purchase as "electives," with discretionary income, and which can engender some of the same kinds of confusion, hesitation, defensiveness, and chips-on-shoulders that sometimes happen with ski gear. I've also spent plenty of time in ski shops fondling skis while waiting for liners to be cooked and what have you. So I am well acquainted with the principle that if you let a potential customer overthink things and get too analytical... If you allow him to be presented with too many options, too many fine details that he is really not sophisticated enough to appreciate in the first place ... If you allow those things to happen, a critical moment can pass, and you can find that you have wasted forty-five minutes of your time yammering off and on with someone who walked in the door ready to lay down money, but is now walking out the same door without buying anything. I get that. In that retail context your job is absolutely to simplify, build confidence, and encourage focusing on an outcome that's bound to be fun as long as a major mistake is not made ... which it won't be, because you are a good advisor.
Here on Epic ... I don't see this as the same context. Obviously you should opine in the way that you think is right, just like we all do. And if that way is the retail way, so be it. But, speaking for myself, when I ask a question here I do it partly because this is NOT a retail establishment. I have a good brick & mortar retailer I can ask questions of if I want to, not to mention that I could phone you or dawg or whiteroom or others who have well-regarded online shops. No, when I ask a question here I am often asking it out of what you might call "pure curiosity," and I'm hoping that its answer won't be too influenced by concerns about whether it will make me too confused or not, or about whether it will prolong the discussion too much or not. Here on Epic, if I want to be confused by information that's over my head or whatever, that's my prerogative, Everyone here who bothers to answer a post is volunteering their time. If they want to ignore me, they can. If I want to overthink something, I want that to be my choice. If people get tired of hearing me overthink it, again, they can ignore me.