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post #1 of 18
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FIrst off we are from the south - Atlanta to be exact - and are already at a pretty good disadvantage because of that. We have been skiing "seriously" for about 6 years now although we took off the entirety of last season to have our first child and transition to self-employment.

Business is good and we are looking forward to getting back out there this year! We would love to do it on new skis!

We typically ski 10-15 days per year, mostly in either Colorado (Copper, Loveland, Breckenridge) or Utah (Powder, Snowbasin) with a day trip or two to North Carolina to ski on the ice.

ME:
Two seasons ago I caught the racing bug and jumped in head first. I attended a couple of master's camps, raced as much NASTAR as possible and exponentially improved my skiing over the course of about 25-30 days on the snow. Unfortunately now life is just too busy for a southerner to be able to race effectively. I am 6'0", weigh 170 lbs. and am somewhere around a level 5-6 skier. I have been skiing strictly blue and black groomers for the past 2-3 seasons but am somewhat interested in transitioning to trees & ungroomed terrain. I have been primarily skiing on Fischer WC RC4 SL skis for the past year. I am looking for the best one-ski solution possible that will allow me to ski in the trees and powder a little while still keeping the groomers fun.

MY WIFE:
After many lessons over the past few years she is still having trouble finding confidence on harder greens and blues. Victor Roy at Snowbasin found some serious alignment issues with her boots a couple of years ago. She is terribly knock-kneed and we never realized the awful affect it was having on her skiing. Her boots are also terribly wrong for her. She is going to get new boots and visit Harald Harb in Colorado in a few weeks for alignment and fitting. Hopefully this (along with some better skis) will help her to find some confidence this year. She is 5'9", 150 lbs. and probably somewhere between level 3-5 (although she was grasping the concept of carving quite well before the baby).

We are looking hard at the Head Absolut Joy for her - any reason to not go with this? What size would you recommend?

Thanks for any help you can offer!
Edited by KG4ONJ - 10/21/14 at 3:31am
post #2 of 18
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Originally Posted by KG4ONJ View Post

FIrst off we are from the south - Atlanta to be exact - and are already at a pretty good disadvantage because of that. We have been skiing "seriously" for about 6 years now although we took off the entirety of last season to have our first child and transition to self-employment.

Business is good and we are looking forward to getting back out there this year! We would love to do it on new skis!

We typically ski 10-15 days per year, mostly in either Colorado (Copper, Loveland, Breckenridge) or Utah (Powder, Snowbasin) with a day trip or two to North Carolina to ski on the ice.

ME:
Two seasons ago I caught the racing bug and jumped in head first. I attended a couple of master's camps, raced as much NASTAR as possible and exponentially improved my skiing over the course of about 25-30 days on the snow. Unfortunately now life is just too busy for a southerner to be able to race effectively. I am 6'0", weigh 170 lbs. and am somewhere around a level 5-6 skier. I have been skiing strictly blue and black groomers for the past 2-3 seasons but am somewhat interested in transitioning to trees & ungroomed terrain. I have been primarily skiing on Fischer WC RC4 SL skis for the past year. I am looking for the best one-ski solution possible that will allow me to ski in the trees and powder a little while still keeping the groomers fun.

MY WIFE:
After many lessons over the past few years she is still having trouble finding confidence on harder greens and blues. Victor Roy at Snowbasin found some serious alignment issues with her boots a couple of years ago. She is terribly knock-kneed and we never realized the awful affect it was having on her skiing. Her boots are also terribly wrong for her. She is going to get new boots and visit Harald Harb in Colorado in a few weeks for alignment and fitting. Hopefully this (along with some better skis) will help her to find some confidence this year. She is 5'9", 150 lbs. and probably level 2-3 (although she was grasping the concept of carving quite well before the baby).

We are looking hard at the Head Absolut Joy for her - any reason to not go with this? What size would you recommend?

Thanks for any help you can offer!

Always nice to hear from people in the southeast.  Are you going to take the baby on the ski trip?

 

Paging @Trekchick and @Philpug for suggestions to get the discussions going.

post #3 of 18
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Originally Posted by marznc View Post

Always nice to hear from people in the southeast.  Are you going to take the baby on the ski trip?

Paging @Trekchick
 and @Philpug
 for suggestions to get the discussions going.

Absolutely! Although being only 11 months old she won't be quite ready to strap on skis yet haha! She did start walking about a month ago though so she's almost there, right?? We are taking another ski-friend along and between the three of us we will take turns entertaining the baby in the lodge while the others ski.
post #4 of 18
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Originally Posted by KG4ONJ View Post


Absolutely! Although being only 11 months old she won't be quite ready to strap on skis yet haha! She did start walking about a month ago though so she's almost there, right?? We are taking another ski-friend along and between the three of us we will take turns entertaining the baby in the lodge while the others ski.

 

 

Delta has a really nice direct flight into Aspen out of ATL.   Snowmass is having the Nastar National Championships in March. With all the ski in/out lodging, Snowmass would make an ideal place to take your little one.

post #5 of 18
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Delta has a really nice direct flight into Aspen out of ATL.   Snowmass is having the Nastar National Championships in March. With all the ski in/out lodging, Snowmass would make an ideal place to take your little one.

Two seasons ago when I started racing I qualified for the National Championships at Snowmass. I had already taken four or five trips out west that season, attended a couple of camps, and driven to Cataloochee in NC every week for the Thursday night racing league. I just couldn't justify the cost of the trip and now I really regret it.

My one season of "racing" (granted, mostly only NASTAR stuff and a few league races around NC, VA and out west) was life-changing for me. While I was always in shape I had never been much of an "athlete" growing up and it was great to find something athletic that I could find moderate success with. I worked hard, studied other racers, read books, took a LOT of lessons, attended camps, worked out, and spent a TON of $$$ in that year! It was the time of my life but now the reality of my little girl, expanding our business and turning 40 are making me re-examine my priorities. We're moving closer to Atlanta soon and it will be difficult to get to Cataloochee for league racing each week - seems like I had a lot more time a couple of years ago! I raced NASTAR a LOT at Copper when visiting CO but that has apparently been discontinued.

Skiing will always be a part of our lives and we'll always spend 10-20 days on the snow somewhere in the country (or world!). I just don't think that I'll be able to spend the time and make the sacrifices necessary to be even a marginally-competitive racer.

As for my skis - like I said, the majority of my time recently was spent on the Fischer slalom skis (165s). I really like going fast. Honestly, maybe TOO fast (only when it's early with no other people around). Assuming I'm not going to continue skiing on my SL skis - is there another ski out there that will allow me to explore a little of the ungroomed terrain while still allowing me to apply my racing "skills" on the groomed / hard pack stuff? I don't plan to ski the backcountry (at least not yet), just get off the beaten path a little. Am I asking too much from a single pair of skis?

I do have a pair of Volkl GS skis and an older pair of Salomon X-Wings that I started on, FWIW.

As for my wife I just want her to find some equipment that will help her get more confident with pointing downhill and going a little faster. If that means a big wide ski then so be it. I just don't know enough to get her in the right gear.

Again, thanks for any input you can offer!
post #6 of 18
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Bump for any suggestions.. Thanks!
post #7 of 18

I love these skis for what your wife is looking for:  http://www.elanskis.com/us/home.html  and  http://www.elanskis.com/us/w-twilight.html  The Twilight 76 in the 166 length is the ticket at 5'9".

post #8 of 18
I can't speak to what skis for your spouse - I'll bet getting a better boot for her and having alignment issues addressed will be huge. She'll be able to make more progress, to the point where she will better be able to tell for herself what she likes in a ski.

Since you like your Fischer RC4 SL'a, have you considered trying a Motive 86 as an all-mountain ski? It has that light, nimble feel (which I am told is Fischer-like). Good edge grip and also pretty good in bumps and crud. It'll be great in most conditions where you're skiing. The Motive 95 if you want to go wider; however I haven't demoed it yet.
post #9 of 18
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Thanks for the replies! I am intrigued by the Fischer Motive 86 - would you recommend the 175s for my size (6'0", 170 lb)? I do really love my RC4's but maybe that's because they are what I really "learned" on. Does anyone know how they compare to the Head Rev 85?

@liv2 ski Any insight as to how the Elan Twilight compares to the Head Absolut Joy?
Edited by KG4ONJ - 10/25/14 at 8:01pm
post #10 of 18
As it turns out, I have the Rev 85 in 177. I got them on consignment from the Starthaus at a price I couldn't ignore, otherwise I might've ended up with the Motives. Both are great all mountain skis, very versatile for mixed snow and bumps as well as groomers. The Motive may be better at hardpack grip and more stable at speed, the Rev is nice in bumps and more "relaxed" feel overall. Motive might be better at crud. However a lot of this is splitting hairs, I'd be happy on either.

I could have gone a size shorter but I'm happy with 177. 175 in the Motive is probably fine. The next size is 182 IIRC and that seems too long. Hardly any early rise, not really noticeable.
post #11 of 18
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I'm actually wondering if the 175 / 177 would be too long for me after coming off the RC4s..

Would love to get some opinions from @Trekchick & @Philpug as well!
post #12 of 18
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Originally Posted by KG4ONJ View Post

FIrst off we are from the south - Atlanta to be exact - and are already at a pretty good disadvantage because of that. We have been skiing "seriously" for about 6 years now although we took off the entirety of last season to have our first child and transition to self-employment.

Business is good and we are looking forward to getting back out there this year! We would love to do it on new skis!

We typically ski 10-15 days per year, mostly in either Colorado (Copper, Loveland, Breckenridge) or Utah (Powder, Snowbasin) with a day trip or two to North Carolina to ski on the ice.

ME:
Two seasons ago I caught the racing bug and jumped in head first. I attended a couple of master's camps, raced as much NASTAR as possible and exponentially improved my skiing over the course of about 25-30 days on the snow. Unfortunately now life is just too busy for a southerner to be able to race effectively. I am 6'0", weigh 170 lbs. and am somewhere around a level 5-6 skier. I have been skiing strictly blue and black groomers for the past 2-3 seasons but am somewhat interested in transitioning to trees & ungroomed terrain. I have been primarily skiing on Fischer WC RC4 SL skis for the past year. I am looking for the best one-ski solution possible that will allow me to ski in the trees and powder a little while still keeping the groomers fun.

MY WIFE:
After many lessons over the past few years she is still having trouble finding confidence on harder greens and blues. Victor Roy at Snowbasin found some serious alignment issues with her boots a couple of years ago. She is terribly knock-kneed and we never realized the awful affect it was having on her skiing. Her boots are also terribly wrong for her. She is going to get new boots and visit Harald Harb in Colorado in a few weeks for alignment and fitting. Hopefully this (along with some better skis) will help her to find some confidence this year. She is 5'9", 150 lbs. and probably somewhere between level 3-5 (although she was grasping the concept of carving quite well before the baby).

We are looking hard at the Head Absolut Joy for her - any reason to not go with this? What size would you recommend?

Thanks for any help you can offer!

I'm sorry I missed this thread (even after being paged) 

As for your wife....The Absolute Joy is a great ski for her at the level that you're describing.  I really think Head hit this line of skis out of the park.  You'll probably be seeing me on the Super Joy a fair bit this season. 

 

Back to your ski selection.   Am I correct in following along??....You're getting the Head Rev 85 for yourself? 

post #13 of 18
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Originally Posted by Trekchick View Post

I'm sorry I missed this thread (even after being paged) 
As for your wife....The Absolute Joy is a great ski for her at the level that you're describing.  I really think Head hit this line of skis out of the park.  You'll probably be seeing me on the Super Joy a fair bit this season. 

Back to your ski selection.   Am I correct in following along??....You're getting the Head Rev 85 for yourself? 

No problem at all - there's a zillion questions like mine this time of year! From some of the other threads I had read that you had replied to I was pretty sold on the Absolute Joy but just wanted to be sure I was barking up the right tree. Another question on those - it looks like those come with bindings - are they some kind of system / demo binding or will we need to have them mounted?

I on the other hand have not made a decision at all at this point. I Might be leaning a little more toward the Fischer Motive 86 but am still wide open to suggestion. I'm also not sure of what length range to go after (160's or 170's).

Thanks so much for your input!
post #14 of 18
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Originally Posted by KG4ONJ View Post


No problem at all - there's a zillion questions like mine this time of year! From some of the other threads I had read that you had replied to I was pretty sold on the Absolute Joy but just wanted to be sure I was barking up the right tree. Another question on those - it looks like those come with bindings - are they some kind of system / demo binding or will we need to have them mounted?

I on the other hand have not made a decision at all at this point. I Might be leaning a little more toward the Fischer Motive 86 but am still wide open to suggestion. I'm also not sure of what length range to go after (160's or 170's).

Thanks so much for your input!


The Absolute Joy is a system ski.  You will have to have them mounted but the binding goes on a system with the ski and will be adjustable if your wife gets new boots with a different bsl. 

 

I haven't been on the Fischer Motive but I can attest to the Head Rev 85.  In that ski you may want to go with the 170 for your size and ability.

Wish I could be more helpful with the Fischer.  I guess I need to ski a few more from their booth this coming season. 

post #15 of 18
Sorry I am late, I was completing my honey do list. I see the Rev85 has been mentioned, great choice. A very versatile ski in this range that can be skied all over the mountain. There are other skis, sure that can be mentioned for the sake of giving other options but in don't think there are many that can do what the rev does in the multitude of conditions that you will be seeing. IMHO, you struck oil with the Head, both of them really, get them and be happy, I approve of the selection icon14.gif;)
post #16 of 18
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Sorry I am late, I was completing my honey do list. I see the Rev85 has been mentioned, great choice. A very versatile ski in this range that can be skied all over the mountain. There are other skis, sure that can be mentioned for the sake of giving other options but in don't think there are many that can do what the rev does in the multitude of conditions that you will be seeing. IMHO, you struck oil with the Head, both of them really, get them and be happy, I approve of the selection icon14.gif;)

No problem, thanks for the info! Do you know if there were major changes in the Rev 85 for 2015 that would be worth going after or would I be ok to look for some closeout 2014's?
post #17 of 18
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Originally Posted by KG4ONJ View Post


No problem, thanks for the info! Do you know if there were major changes in the Rev 85 for 2015 that would be worth going after or would I be ok to look for some closeout 2014's?


The Rev 85 is unchanged.  

post #18 of 18
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The Rev 85 is unchanged.  

Fantastic!! Thanks to all for the input!
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