I just recently bought a brand new pair still in plastic of last years Atomic Theory Skis 177 at a small ski shop for $150.00, couldn't pass it up, I'm currently skiing the Fischer Motive 88 176 and back in the spring I bought a pair of Fischer Motive 80 C-Line 175, which I skiied on a few years ago, I bought them for the end of the day ice on the East Coast, they are fantastic, the 88's will slide out on you, but still a good ski. The 80's are definetly that 2nd ski, just looking for thoughts keep 3 pairs of skis, or keep what I have and make a few dollars off of the Atomic's. Thanks
2013/2014 ATOMIC THEORY
I keep wanting to demo the Theory. Been told it is one of the best bump/all mountain skis around. And I bet it holds a bombproof edge. It apparently has a speed limit, pretty high tho. I'll bet it has a very distinctive quality to it, different in a good way; so it may not have much overlap and be a fun third ski.
But I'm an Atomic fan, have three Atomic skis currently and counting (Crimson ti 88, Ritual 103, '14 Automatic 115; thinking of the Auto 109). Each is distinctively different, for different conditions, different moves.
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I think for a $150 you can afford to give the Theory a ride. I doubt that shop is going to stay in business long….$150!!! I don't even think the reps can buy them for that!
That Vantage line of skis from Atomic is a good one. The Theory is a pair of skis that far out skis its price point. At 95mm at the waist you'll find it to be a versatile introduction to your quiver.
The Atomic Theory 95 is described as potentially favoring lighter skiers, as are many Atomic skis, though they still work well for heavier.
(I'm 145 to 150, ~5'10." And used to driving my skis forward, not so much upright.)
Also, Theory probably has an Atomic carver quality, as opposed to neutral edge gs or slalom feel.
I haven't skied the AC 40, at least recently.
The '13 Crimson 88 (the year I own), like the Theory 95, is a frontside-bias all mountain ski, for me. The Crimson: stiff on the spectrum, but really perfect to flex well in carved turns. Charging carver on edge; stable at speed in a characteristic Atomic way, fairly damp (not as much as the Stocklis), lively in turns that are r 19 for the 178 (between sl/gs, with easy change of turn radius almost at will). Good in chop. Fast: near gs speed @ 178, for me. A longer version for one's height and weight produces an sg type of ski almost: faster, more stable-- for me at least (@186). Still fairly easy to turn at almost any radius. It's a bit stiff to be ideal for bumps, at least for me--though fun there.
The '14 and '15 Crimson versions are mostly the same as each other but changed from '13. They are less stiff (10%), slightly more damp, 2 cm. narrower, slightly changed sidewall construction and binding interface, to make flex more even/smooth: less stiff but more damp in chop and bumps.
I liked the '14 about the same as mine, when I demoed it: a great ski.
The Theory 95 has more of a turny quality to it than the Crimson, I'm told. Bumps.
The Ritual 103, by contrast, is a soft snow biased all mountain ski. It's a so-called 5 point-tipped ski, as near as I can tell. Anything soft or new makes this ski shine. My heavens, but it is a real powder and chop ski, up to 10" anyway. It is not a compromise ski at all for this, IMHO. On soft groomers, it can gs charge on edge, but once hardpack or hardpan set in, it chatters a bit if edged hard across the slope. But it rails in soft groomer snow. It is surprisingly good in soft bumps. Stupendous in chop or powder pumps. (I meant bumps.)
The 13/14 Automatic (the one I own) is like the Ritual only more so--more need for soft, same thrill. Great in chop/crud bumps, even heroic. In pure powder it is slightly more stable--confidence-building stable at speed, especially once the snow is deeper than, say, 6 inches. And it can rail any soft snow frontside too, carving.
I will have to ski it more to figure out if it is as stable in, say, 3-8" chop/crud as the Ritual. I've only been on it for three days of deep last year, so far. The Ritual is, of course, lighter weight, though with similar float and dampness.
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