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Having second thoughts about skis I bought [at Toronto ski show]

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I was at the Toronto ski show and I had two skis to choose from.  Before I get into that let me tell you a bit about myself.  I am 6'4" and weigh 190lbs, 39 years old.  I am an east cost skier.  Mainly Ontario with some trips to Whiteface, Jay Peak, Stowe etc... throughout the year.  I have been skiing since I was kid and I am a fairly good aggressive skier.  I have been skiing on the old original Atomic Crimsons with no rocker for the last five years and have been very happy with them.  I love skiing everything I can including trees, moguls, groomers etc...
1. Atomic Crimson TI 187cm

2. Blizzard Bonafide 187cm

 

I was at the ski show today and had a choice between these two skis.  The Crimsons I already know and love and so I decided to buy another pair of those.  For some reason I cannot get the Bonafide out of my head.  I read so many awesome reviews about them, but at the same time I read so many comments saying not to go with over 90mm for east coast skiing.  I am wondering if I bought the rigth ski.  Should I have gone with the Bonafide?

 

Claude

post #2 of 11

Depends what your priorities are as far as ski performance. The Atomic's will be better for any harder snow conditions, better edge grip, more stable. Bonafides will still work well just not quite as good. They however, will be better in any softer snow, float much better, and easier to maneuver due to much more rocker.

 

Just be realistic about what you ski and how you like the ski to perform. You loved the old Crimsons, you'll probably enjoy the updated ones with some rocker. If you find you want something more off trail orientated, then consider the Bonafides.

post #3 of 11

The Crimson is a great eastern ski.  And the reviews of the new one indicate its more versatile and forgiving than the older version.  I am in the camp that believe that skis like the Bonafide are too wide for a one-ski eastern quiver.  If you also are going to continue to use your old Crimson or add a new narrow hard snow oriented ski, then its a different story. 


Edited by JimH - 10/17/14 at 5:07pm
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I'm going to the Snow Show tonight!


 

The Crimson is not a bad choice!  If you plan on using it as a 1-ski quiver, then it's probably a much better choice than the Bonafide.  I demo'd the Bonafide (and some others) in Vermont at Sugarbush and it is indeed an excellent ski. The fact you're thinking of it isn't surprising.  I ended up going with a Rossi Exp 98 instead for my own reasons, but I do bring my 98's out to Moonstone, Blue, and even Glen Eden.  But only on softish days.  Otherwise I bring out the 67mm carvers.  So I've decided to go skinny and fat (by our relative eastern standards).  And you've apparently decided to split the difference.  Nothing wrong with that.  If I went with one ski only, it would be in the mid 80's range, and the Crimson is one I'd definitely be looking at.


 

So, can you go over 90mm for where we ski?  Absolutely.  But it depends on what you want to get out of a ski, what sort of thing you prefer.  Instead of my E98, I could have gone with a Bonafide.  In, fact, I was *this close* to doing just that.  But ONLY as a wide ski to complement my skinny ski, not as 1-ski setup.  If I were to go with 1 ski, it wouldn't be a 98mm, it would be something in the mid 80s like you did.


 

I'd say you made a smart choice based on what it sounds like you wanted to achieve.


Edited by Gunnerbob - 10/17/14 at 6:59pm
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Highend skiers that I ski with tend to be leaning towards the mid 90'smm waist, me, I like my 88mm waist skis for most days at Okemo. I have wider skis for the day's we can use them and for the late spring.

You'll be fine.
post #6 of 11

I wouldn't choose the Bonafide as an east coast one ski quiver. I think you made the right choice. 

 

If you're super curious, the Bonafide has not changed in 3 or 4 years other than graphics. You could look for a deal on a used pair or a new old stock and experiment with them.

post #7 of 11

For where you live, the Crimson's sound like a better choice. Wait a season and get something in the 110 range for fresh snow. At your size, that'll be the 100-something everyone is now officially hot and bothered about.

post #8 of 11

You like it already and it will do everything you want it to.  I think Kauffee's call on looking around on used or previous year models of the Bonafide is pretty solid if you wanna hedge your bets.

post #9 of 11

The advice you've gotten about the Crimsons sounds very reasonable.  If you're curious about other skis, you can drive yourself crazy going round-and-round trying to figure out what will work best for you. To avoid this, I'd recommend you take some time to demo different skis (you can get suggestions on this forum of good candidates to demo).  Some areas offer early-season free manufacturers' demo days, which is the best way to go.  Alternately, find an on-mountain shop with a good selection.  Typically you can switch out as often as you want at no extra charge. For the latter, be sure to choose a day where the conditions are appropriate for the skis you want to try.   E.g., if you want to demo powder skis, do it on day you've got powder!  Of course, powder skis can be hard to find on powder days, so you might want to reserve the day before if you've got a definite powder forecast.  Conditions appropriate for skis like the Bones would be easier to find, since for them I believe old cut-up powder and crud, or soft spring corn, would be the thing. Normally I would add that one of the benefits of demoing is that it allows you to dial in not just the ski but the length -- though for you that's probably not an issue, since at your size it would be rare that the longest length wouldn't be the one to get.


Edited by chemist - 10/18/14 at 10:16am
post #10 of 11
"at your size it would be rare that the longest length wouldn't be the one to get."

Maybe so, but you've pointed to a gotcha that's worth planning around. Specifically it pays to research ahead of time what sizes you are looking for in specific models. Otherwise you get to the shop or tent, they have a 175 and a 185 (or whatever), but the staff person there at that moment may or may not be willing and able to tell you correctly whether the 185 is the longest length for that model. Obviously a smartphone can be a big help in such a situation if you have a signal.
post #11 of 11

Don't worry, be happy!

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