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Lange WC Plug boot lace-up liners, size 24-24.5, 284mm BSL, Brand New, Never even tried on!

post #1 of 20
Thread Starter 

These are the liners supplied with a 2012-2013 Lange WC plug boot. They're a size 24-24.5. In a Lange, that's the boot with a 284mm Boot Sole Length {BSL}. 

 

Our daughter's a former NCAA racer, and she used another liner in her boots that year. These arrived when the boots were shipped, and as you can see, they have never been unlaced, tried on, etc……..let alone used. The spoiler on the back of the liner, affixed with velcro is attached. 

 

Brand new condition. Perfect. I'm not sure what a Lange dealer charges for the liners. My daughter always dealt with Lange race, and I know their racer price was $150 for replacement liners. 

 

Now $65, shipped. 

 

PM me with any questions. Paypal is fine with me. Pics below:

 

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Edited by Muleski - 11/22/14 at 9:41am
post #2 of 20
Thread Starter 

$65, shipped? 

 

PM with questions, etc. Thanks. 

post #3 of 20
I wish it were 27.5, then I would have bought them right away to have a spare for my Rossi plug liners. Someone get those, if you have a tight boot those are great and last a lot longer than regular liners.
post #4 of 20
Thread Starter 

These are a good solution for anybody with this sized foot, and a plug or low volume boot. Much "more" of a liner than the original sock lace ups in the early Lange version, or the early Tecnica's.  Contact me if you're interested, otherwise I guess I'll try Ebay as I want to move them out of the house. We're downsizing three houses into one, and we just have too much "stuff"!!!

 

Was hoping that somebody here could use them. 

 

PM me with any questions. Thanks! 

post #5 of 20
Thread Starter 

No longer for sale on Epic. Gave it a month, so presumably nobody here can use them! 

Now listed on Ebay. 
Thanks!

post #6 of 20
Thread Starter 

Meant to add, if anybody's interested, PM me. They'll up on Ebay, haven't sold, and I can pull the auction there. 

Thanks!

post #7 of 20
Thread Starter 

@LabMan, here are the brand new 24.5 Lace-ups. Put these in that pair of shells {2009's I'm pretty sure}, and you essentially have a brand new boot. 

 

I'll sell for $60m shipped. 

post #8 of 20
If you have a 24 size shell that's performance fit you should get these! Or if you have a child who races in a 24, try em. At least experiment since these are so cheap. Once you go lace ups you dont want anything else. For one thing it makes those times skiing with your boots very loosely buckled much better.

Last spring i bought a pair of Intuition liners with tongue and lace up as an experiment.
Well over $200. I just removed them and went back to the extremely worn Race lace ups similar to these but Nordica. (I prefer the Lange liner tongue though) These 24's don't fit or I'd get these.
post #9 of 20
I'm interested but I'm not sure they'll work. My bsl is 286 for a Salomon 24.5 XMax. I wear a size 8 street shoe and there is NO extra room. Can't wear socks. Only a sock liner. I'm concerned about the 2mm difference.

I've been thinking about getting new liners lately because my current ones have roughly 120 days. They aren't packed out (heat molded) but they are a on the cold side.

Are they heat moldable?

Ken
post #10 of 20
Good question. Remember the 2mm can just be external plastic. It's likely the Lange liner is thinner so you might have more room. I suppose the external dimensions of your Soloman and the Lange should be measured. Then maybe ask the Boot Guys.
post #11 of 20
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Originally Posted by Tog View Post

Good question. Remember the 2mm can just be external plastic. It's likely the Lange liner is thinner so you might have more room. I suppose the external dimensions of your Soloman and the Lange should be measured. Then maybe ask the Boot Guys.


This is indeed is the case, race liner is thinner and occupies less volume. I picked up a WC 24.5 liner from Muleski last year for my nephew's 286 BSL and actually had to lightly trim his orthotic to fit.

post #12 of 20
Thread Starter 

Thanks for the comments, and interest. These are the "stock" liners from a 2012-2013 Lange WC plug boot. The same shell that all of their race athletes, right up to the WC use. It's a narrow last shell, hence the liner is low volume. If you have a high volume 100mm lasted boot with a big thick liner, I don't see how these could help you. If you're squeezed into a boot of the right length, but the high volume liner is too thick, and you're squeezed too tight, these might be worth a try. I have never heard of anybody using heat on a pair, as I doubt if there's any material in them that would respond better to heat.

 

My kids were in either a Dobermann, or a Lange "real deal" plug boot, with a lace-up liner, from 2002 on. One of them coaches, and the boot that he wears when he's really skiing, rather than standing around is a Dobermann, with the stock liner. The liners in all of these boots have been improved pretty much every year, while the shells are virtually unchanged. His new Dobermann has actually "returned" to the original 2002 mold and plastic, but the liner is much better. I would say that the Lange liner has moved even further. The original lace-ups were more like a sock, with a barely decent tongue. Much better now. Keep in mind that a plug boot is fitted by modifying the shell……grinding and punching where you need a touch of space. You want to be close to the shell, yet not in pain. Most shells, in my experience, can be modified….even if it's not grinding a thick plug shell. 

 

I've sold a few pairs of these, as my kids would typically have two pairs of boots a season, and might use one pair of liners. We always had extra liners hanging around. My daughter's now in a wider, and softer boot, post race career, with a BD foam liner, so she won't need these….and asked me to sell them. This is less than half of her price, maybe a third factoring the shipping, and her cost was about half of retail…..so I think you could try them in a boot with a minor investment, and if the fit…..great. If not, re-sell?

 

I do know that everybody that I know who has made this move with a "race" boot….either a 93-95mm plug needing a newer liner, or a 95-98mm shell wanting a different liner, feels that the performance and fit of the latest lace-ups improves the performance of the boot. They are not warm, but they aren't as cold as they were. My daughter trained and did a lot of free skiing at one of the coldest mountains in the country, almost every day for nine seasons, and never wore another liner……so they're very "skiable".

 

If anybody wants me to actually measure the length of the lining, and the width, height, etc. I can do that later today. 

 

Frankly, I've sold a lot of race and high end gear to fellow ES Bears, and I'm surprised that nobody has picked these up. I have a lot of friends who gripe that if they bought a new, and better liner, they'd save many hundreds on the cost of new boots. I had over 750 days on my last boots, and in the process used 3-4 liners. This is a cheap way to upgrade. 

 

Want to pick them up just north of Boston?  $40, if we eliminate shipping. Have a corporate UPS or FedEx account, and want to send me a mailing label instead of my paying for shipping? We can obviously do the same $40. 

 

Hope that somebody can use them. 

post #13 of 20
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Frankly, I've sold a lot of race and high end gear to fellow ES Bears, and I'm surprised that nobody has picked these up

Size has something to do with it, the 24, but a few other things also. People aren't really willing to experiment with boots, people don't understand you can use other lace up liners -Lange, Nordica, Atomic, in a different shell, Unless it's Intuition. Then for some reason it's a magic bullet that can't be wrong. (my lace up Intuitions I got last spring were a dud. These Langes are better)
Also people just don't understand the laceup thing. I'm constantly asked by people who've skied for years why I'm putting the liners on my feet outside the boots.
I sold my liners and plug boots last year. Ironically, to a snowboarder! Hardboot carver. There's a subset that take alpine boots and heavily modify them. He thought they were really stiff. (they were pretty soft, esp for a plug partly cause they're not real high)
Check ou this photo of what the snowboarders do to the alpine boots:

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post #14 of 20
Thread Starter 

Great pic. I agree, some people do a lot of experimenting, with great success, and nobody more so than guys doing serious carving on snowboards. My boots for the past 10 season have been the original Dobermann Pro 130's. With that shell, and the Nordica lace-up from a WC Dobie, I had a great fit, with some modifications. The lace up was a far better liner….much better heel and tongue, and it opened up the toe box for me. Four pairs of liners {my son was in the real Dobie for most of those years}, probably replaced most buckles one at a time, and about 1o sets of Booster straps. Worked really well for 750+ days. 

 

I also agree on the Lange liner…..and NOT because I have a pair to sell! I think it's now so much better than it was, and better than the current Nordica or Tecnica {same liner}. 

 

Hopefully somebody will give them a try, and be pleased with the result! Thanks for encouraging some folks to do so! 

post #15 of 20
Thread Starter 

SOLD, pending payment. Thanks, all. Sure the buyer will be pleased with these!

 

MS

post #16 of 20
I guess that's what I get for hesitating. I was a little concerned on them being cold. I use Hotronics as it is. I was also concerned about constantly taking them out of the shell and the hotronics cable fraying.

Hope the buyer enjoys them.
post #17 of 20
Thread Starter 

The newer ones have a slot sewn in the back of the liner, specifically for a Hotronics cord. My daughter always had one pair fitted that way for the real cold. Worked perfectly. Keep that in mind if you see another pair. 

post #18 of 20
A few liners come that way.. It's in the wrong spot though. If it exits the heel, you need to run the wire either under your foot (uncomfortable) or under your footbed ( loss of stability). Cut a new slot in the toe and go outside the liner that way. Up and over the toe and up to the cuff. Works great.

Thanks for the info and this thread. I will keep my eyes open for another pair. What I currently have is perfectly fine so there isn't a rush, but I know it's coming.


Ken
post #19 of 20
You need a 24 size?
post #20 of 20
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Originally Posted by Tog View Post

You need a 24 size?

I'm in a Salomon 120 X Max 24.5. From what I was told by the fitter, they run a litte long, which would be why I can fit in it. He originally had me try on everything in a 25.5 and when we settled on the XMax, he down sized. It is perfect. I measure 26.1 (not sure if the decimal but I'm a 26 something). I only had to get a punch and beat mold the liners to fit inside. No socks. They are tight and my toes touch the end of the toe box until I flex my ankles. Until I seat my heel, two toes are scrunched up.

I know that is more than you asked for but I'm designed to do things the comp'icated way.

Send me a PM if you think you have something that will work.

Ken
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