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Head venturi 181 or 191

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Hi. Im toying with the idea of picking up some head venturi but im not sure if i should grab them in a 181 or 191.
A little background. I live in newegland and mostly ski vermont. Im 5' 10", 240 lbs, and 26 years old. Im an advanced skier who skis fast and hard. I ski all over the mountains but love the steeps and seeking out powder stashes in the trees. Last season i skied mostly on my dynastar dystorters in a 180 and i still love them. I also have a pair of dynastar outland 75xt in 176. Im Not looking to replace either ski but rather ad a third pair to the quiver. I would use the venturi primarily for pow days and rooming the trees. At the moment i'm leaning toward the 191 but i'm alittle worried they might be too long as i have never skied anything that long before.
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Honest answer IMHO is neither. You're really too heavy for this ski as it's pretty soft for a guy your size.
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If you're skiing Vermont go with the 181s. You not likely to encounter deep powder very often and the shorter length will be welcome in 3D snow or tight spaces. If take a lot of sick days when it snow then the 191 will be more appropriate.

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Originally Posted by bliz1978 View Post

If you're skiing Vermont go with the 181s. You not likely to encounter deep powder very often and the shorter length will be welcome in 3D snow or tight spaces. If take a lot of sick days when it snow then the 191 will be more appropriate.

He will absolutely fold a 181 at his weight even if he's an intermediate skier. This will NOT be at all fun on even nominally hard snow. The Venturi is a nice ski for the right person, but the OP isn't it.
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Markojp,

 

Who is the right skier for he venturi??  I've been looking at one for an east coast tweener ski bumps, trees, etc.   Is it way softer than the soul rider (if you know) or the new K2 Shreditor 92??  Also skis I have looked at for the same terrain...

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IMHO, the venturi has a bit of a weight limit. I wouldn't recommend it for anyone over 200lbs. For a lighter guy it could work great. All in all, I think the Collective is a better ski and has a stiffer tail for a bigger guy. Stiffness wise, I'd guess the venturi is somewhere between the soul rider and the Shredditor though I can't recall with any certainly.. I'm a big fan of the Soul Rider. It's a great general purpose all mountain ski that happens to have a twin tip. Edge hold is superior to the Venturi, and it's nice not to have to ski a 191 to get whatever additional stability the Venturi needs. Personally, I prefer the Rev 90 over the Venturi for pretty much any application. The rev 90 is pretty underrated IMHO.
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Is the OP still following this thread?

 

I can understand a 5'10" guy not wanting a 191 length ski.  A 181 makes sense.

 

However, since the OP is 240#, why not a wider ski like a 105-108mm ski?

 

The Venturi 95 is not substantial enough for the OP - he'll overwhelm it.

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Originally Posted by markojp View Post

IMHO, the venturi has a bit of a weight limit. I wouldn't recommend it for anyone over 200lbs. For a lighter guy it could work great. All in all, I think the Collective is a better ski and has a stiffer tail for a bigger guy. Stiffness wise, I'd guess the venturi is somewhere between the soul rider and the Shredditor though I can't recall with any certainly.. I'm a big fan of the Soul Rider. It's a great general purpose all mountain ski that happens to have a twin tip. Edge hold is superior to the Venturi, and it's nice not to have to ski a 191 to get whatever additional stability the Venturi needs. Personally, I prefer the Rev 90 over the Venturi for pretty much any application. The rev 90 is pretty underrated IMHO.

Just wanted to follow up..I ended up buying the 177cm REV 90, I have three days on it, including one almostly exclusively spent in VT glades (FWIW, the heavy, dense storm that hit NE last week left most VT resorts with the best early base I've seen since, well, ever!  Seriously, it was Epic) and a few spent on mixed early season groomers.  I agree with your assessment, it is underrated (and can be bought dirt cheap) and a wonderful tweaner ski, one that more than holds its own on firmer groomers and in short turns (which makes it a lovely resort ski).  

 

It was solid in moguls (though, I haven't run it through true shark tooth eastern bumps yet-and, I'm only a so-so mogul skier), it has a great even flex throughout with just enough tail to add a little hold or serve some kick, but still easy to 'swish' around in tight spots.  I have skied nd owned just about every iteration of Head in this category over the last 11 years (monster 88, Peak 88, iPeak 90, Rock n Roll)-this is the best for my skiing and an evolutionary step up.  It carries speed, it can be playful but it's first instinct leans towards the technical, which, for most is probably a better way to lean.

 

I'm happy with it.  I have skied the Shredittor 92  and the K2 Rictor 90xti.  REV 90 is similar to the 90xti, but a little less hard snow ability and a tad softer.  I liked the 90xti, but I can't find that cheap anywhere.  Shreditor is good too, but it's all play and no work.  Be great in low-medium snow eastern glades and spring snow, but gives back quite a bit to these other too in hard snow conditions.

 

Anyway, just throwing in with the sentiment that the REV 90 (and Probably the K2 90xti) are much better choices than the Venturi given the OP's parameters. 

 

Hey Markojp, I see the PNW is off to another mixed start this season…I had a blast at Crystal last year in March (in what was a very weird year), and with the new Lift, I'm thinking of another March trip…conditions depending (though, last season, on paper the conditions didn't seem that great either, but our trip timed real well).

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