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Foot pain/swelling in new Full Tilt Drop Kicks.

post #1 of 10
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Last year I bought new ski boots. I went with the full tilt drop kicks size 29.5. I had the intuition boot liners heat molded in store using the heat stack method. Everything felt great in store and even after two days of light skiing. The next time I went out I skied more difficult terrain and by the end of the day the outside edges of my feet were very sore. I believe it's the 5th metatarsal area. 

 

Here are a couple of pictures I took after a full day os

 

 

 

My feet don't normally look like this... haha. The bump's on the outside edges of my feet were caused by swelling. I took some anti-inflammatory drugs and my feet looked better the next day and felt better too. I had to keep taking them for the rest of my 5 day ski trip though. I've checked how my feet fit in the boot shells without the liners. They seem to fit pretty well. They don't touch the edges of the boots but they're not swimming either. (I do have some room to move) The only modification I've made to the boots is a booster strap. Also, it should be noted that my feet stay warm and my toes don't go numb throughout the day. 

 

What I'm wondering is:

 

Do i just have to wait for my boot liners to pack out for this problem to go away?

(I noticed the same problem after 10 days on the hill.)

 

Should I be looking at switching boot boards?

(Currently using the stock shock-absorber boot board)

 

Should I try to heat-mold them again and cinch down the toe buckle super tight to add some room?

 

 

All in all I'm really not sure where this problem is coming from and am wondering the best way to fix it. The boots do feel comfortable for most of the day - or all day if I take some ibuprofen haha. 

 

Any advice is appreciated!

 

Thanks!

post #2 of 10

1)  what is the shell fit like (in mm, please)

 

2)  you using a footbed in that boot?

3)   any chance your foot is either moving side to side, or "rolling" or pronating inside the boot?   that 3 prt design, non-overlap, is hard to make smaller if the foot is moving around.

post #3 of 10
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Originally Posted by mntlion View Post
 

1)  what is the shell fit like (in mm, please)

I'm not sure what you mean by this. The boot width is 99mm last. I haven't measured my foot lately to see how wide it is. If you could be more specific, I'll try to get all that info for you.

 

2)  you using a footbed in that boot?
Not that I'm aware of. Just the boot board, and intuition liner. No insoles/superfeet etc. I've heard recently that it's a good idea to heat mold this liner with a footbed.


3)   any chance your foot is either moving side to side, or "rolling" or pronating inside the boot?   that 3 prt design, non-overlap, is hard to make smaller if the foot is moving around.

I didn't notice any movement like this from what I can remember. However, I seem to recall that occasionally, I'd feel more pressure on the outside of my foot while turning. I'm starting to think I may need a footbed to help support and spread the pressure more equal across my foot. 

 

I hope this information helps.

Let me know what you think.

 

Thanks.

post #4 of 10

Let's try it this way.  What size shoe do you normally wear?  Your foot should pronate in the boot so that isn't a problem, but if it pronates to the point that the navicular or arch area of your foot is hard against the shell then your foot gets pushed sideways and load the 5th toe area.

 

Size 29 is for someone with 12 - 13 foot.

 

Lou

post #5 of 10
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Originally Posted by Lou Rosenfeld View Post
 

Let's try it this way.  What size shoe do you normally wear?  Your foot should pronate in the boot so that isn't a problem, but if it pronates to the point that the navicular or arch area of your foot is hard against the shell then your foot gets pushed sideways and load the 5th toe area.

 

Size 29 is for someone with 12 - 13 foot.

 

Lou

I usually wear a 11.5  to 12 in shoes depending on brand.

post #6 of 10

Footbeds correct application I'd say is not exactly as you describe.

 

I"d think liner packing out will make the problem worse, because I think part of the problem may be the boots are too big.

 

I don't think remolding will help.  These kind of problems are usually shell related.

 

The side of your foot does not care what boot board you are standing on.

 

I'm concerned the boots are too large and your foot is simply moving around.

 

When you do a shell fit with your heel all the way in the heel pocket does your inner ankle or navicular touch the shell?

 

Lou

post #7 of 10
Thread Starter 
Hey Lou,
I put my foot inside the shell with my heel all the way back in the heel pocket. My inner ankle bone and navicular are touching the side. It looks as though my foot is pronating.

I haven't measured the length of my foot yet, but at this point what would you suggest?

I'm leaning towards getting some super feet liners to help align my feet. Is this the correct approach? I really don't want to get a different pair of boots yet. Just trying to work with what I have for now.

Let me know what you think. Thanks!
post #8 of 10

May be the correct approach but only if the boot is the right size.  If too large then all bets are off.

 

Lou

post #9 of 10

can you shell fit the boot please?

 

http://www.epicski.com/a/boot-fitting-which-boot-will-work-for-me

 

I'm in banff,  stop by next time you are in town.

post #10 of 10

Your foot won't pronate any more in the boot now than it does when you are standing barefoot on the floor.  So if your foot pronates then it is pronated in the boot.  It is not uncommon for the navicular and/or medial malleolus to touch the inner shell and when it happens it can move your forefoot laterally and cause the problem you are experiencing.  However, as I may not have said well enough yet it isn't worth trying to fix if the boot is too large anyway.

 

Lou

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