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post #91 of 109

Seems reasonable to allow a resort to restrict what kinds of equipment are allowed to be used on the slopes.

 

I am a little surprised that there are not more resorts that ban snowboarding - or even ban skiing.  My uneducated guess is that it is more expensive to have a ski school capable of handling both types of students.

 

What would you think of a resort that was snowboarding only?  What would that resort look like?  Would the chairlifts be designed differently?  Would anyone show up?

post #92 of 109

I think it would be untenable from an economics standpoint.

post #93 of 109
I might be one of the few people to ever spend an entire day at Alta riding the lifts and shredding the slopes in snowboard boots. As part of my extensive and diverse quiver, I have a pair of skiboards fitted with modified snowboard bindings. On a trip a couple of seasons ago, I spent the day on them at Alta. No one seemed to notice, or if they did, they didn't care. One of the lifties said "those look like fun" and I got a few raised eyebrows in the Gold Miner's Daughter.

Just to be clear, I wasn't trying to make a point, it was just a fun day as part of a trip with friends. We were all on shorties, mine just happened to be fitted with snowboard bindings. I had my regular set up in the car and would have swapped out if anyone had complained. I guess by definition, they qualified as skis by virtue of having one on each foot, despite the boots and bindings. I had a blast that day, Alta rocks!

post #94 of 109
^^^There's a reason you're one of the few on those things. :-) Esp at Alta, what a nightmare. Mad River could be worse though.
Snowboard boots might be the saving grace on them.
post #95 of 109
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Here's the actual opinion for those who prefer to read it themselves rather than a news media summary.  https://www.ca10.uscourts.gov/opinions/14/14-4152.pdf

As Dave Barry would (sarcastically) say, "We might as well shred the damned Constitution." 
Ok. So I read the opinion. What on earth do you see here that made you quote Senor Barry?
post #96 of 109
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Ok. So I read the opinion. What on earth do you see here that made you quote Senor Barry?

Well, for starters, there is this post from the same day the opinion was issued, i.e, yesterday:

 

WE MIGHT AS WELL JUST SHRED WHATEVER BRITAIN USES FOR A CONSTITUTION

The British government has been accused of “riding roughshod over democracy” after it suggested it would not endorse naming a £200 million ($283 million) polar research vessel Boaty McBoatface.

(Thanks to klezmerphan)

Posted by Dave on April 19, 2016 at 06:25 AM 
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So, in general, Dave likes to use that headline in his blog to satirize when people act silly and/or entitled.  The plaintiffs in Wasatch claimed they were being discriminated against in violation of the 14th and 5th amendments of the US Constitution. They compared themselves to people being discriminated on the basis of race, which is very silly.  Also, the opinion quotes the GM of Alta as saying nobody who uses the word "shred" will be allowed there. Get it?  It's a pun!

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post #98 of 109
So will this be settled before Tom Brady vs The Nfl is finally put to rest?
post #99 of 109
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So will this be settled before Tom Brady vs The Nfl is finally put to rest?

 

My money's on TB vs. the NFL ending first. 

 

I think snowboarders will lose, but more will come along years later to challenge it again. I think no matter who wins or loses in the football case, it will not re-surface.

post #100 of 109

keep em out! :beercheer:

post #101 of 109
Aspen was one of the last resorts to allow snowboarders. It's had zero effect on the ski experience.
Maybe once or twice a year the euro carvers get out early and trench the groomers, but on the whole NBD.
The ban's are stupid.
post #102 of 109

Same with Taos. The world did not end. 

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post #104 of 109
It's always a good day when the world doesn't end, but the overall experience can be affected by much lesser issues. Being based near a college town, my home resort has a significant amount of snowboarders. Compared to Alta, there is a more "vibrant" atmosphere. I often have to remind folks to be aware of their language around kids in the lift line. Sometimes skiers are to blame, but generally it's the college snowboard crowd who seem to drop most of the F bombs. The lifts are not as efficient with the sideways sitting boarders, and they definitely create frequent logjams on the runs with their impromptu social gatherings. Perhaps these are all first world problems, but Alta is a breath of fresh air when I go there.
post #105 of 109
The best snowboarders in the world are banned, but they'll allow an impromptu group of sensitive snowbladers, to clog up the High T.
They don't ban monoskiers either. Sorry, but It just ain't right.
post #106 of 109

@MrGolfAnalogy I must say I do not see the logic behind immediately grouping college students as snowboarders. I run my college's ski and snowboard club. I can tell you we are 70% skiers 30% snowboarders with over 200 members. All of us get roudy on the slopes but the worst group I've seen at our local hill is the teenage park riders. Usually skiers. Who disrupt everyones day building random jumps and tell you to go f yourself if you say anything to them. Please do not blame the equipment for the people who are using it.

post #107 of 109
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@MrGolfAnalogy I must say I do not see the logic behind immediately grouping college students as snowboarders. I run my college's ski and snowboard club. I can tell you we are 70% skiers 30% snowboarders with over 200 members. All of us get roudy on the slopes but the worst group I've seen at our local hill is the teenage park riders. Usually skiers. Who disrupt everyones day building random jumps and tell you to go f yourself if you say anything to them. Please do not blame the equipment for the people who are using it.

 

I think you are grouping more into my post than was intended. When I referenced the "college snowboard crowd" I didn't exclude the fact that there is also a "college ski crowd". I do have to admit that there is a distinct difference in behavior between the two crowds at our local resort.  I'm not sure I blamed the equipment either, more the folks who choose to use it. I try not to stereotype people, but certain groups seem determined to live up to their stereotypes. 

 

At some point you have to ask yourself why so many people seem to have a negative opinion of snowboarders, and if that reputation is deserved? 

post #108 of 109

Often I am amazed by how confirmation bias feeds upon itself and becomes a self fulfilling prophecy.   :nono: 


Edited by KingGrump - 8/6/16 at 9:47pm
post #109 of 109

Snowboarding peaked 5-6 years ago at 31% of total US visits per Kottke Report and has since declined to 26%.

 

The stereotype of snowboarding being concentrated among high school/college age people is likely becoming less valid year by year.

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