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Seeking advice: Which skis are better for my situation, Volkl Unlimited ac7.4 or K2 Rictor?

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I have a pair of Vokl Unlimited ac7.4 skis. They were my first pair of skis when I started learning to ski just a couple of years ago. 

I have now inherited a pair of K2 Rictor skis. 

The K2 are slightly shorter - the Vokls come up to my eyes, while the K2s come up to my mouth - and just a touch wider. I'm 5'10", intermediate skier who occasionally gets up the nerve to try a black diamond, and hopes to be able to do more of that and improve my skiing. 

What I've read is that the K2s are for advanced skiers while the Vokls are intermediates. Should I venture using the K2s, or should I stick with the Vokls?

 

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Hi - You should mount up the Rictors. A better and more modern design in all respects than the Unlimiteds, and very forgiving from what I hear. They're a touch short, but that won't be a limitation for a good while, and anyway, they're free, yes? Enjoy!

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Which K2 Rictor the 82 or the 90. I have the K2 Rictor 82XTI and love them. Take both with you. Take the same run with both and see which feels better. You might hate the Rictor and think I'm nuts!!! never know.

post #4 of 8

The Richtor name has been used for a few years with a couple different designs, but all of the Richtor designs are more contemporary than the Volkl Unlimited series.  You should do well on the Richtor, no matter which model you have, but you'll want to change that out in a year or two because you'll grow to a point of wanting something a bit longer. 

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I had a pair of Rictors @ 174cm. Im about your size. They were a little soft in the shovels but handled even hard snow well.
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I demo'd the K2 AMP Rictor 90 XTI and simply loved it.   Very predictable with decent rebound and practically no tip chatter.  I would compare the behavior to similar to the Blizzard Bonafide and the ELAN Amphibio 88 without looking at specs.   One of my favorites of the day and I tried about 10 skis.

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Wish the lengths were the opposite.... The Unlimiteds do not have rocker while the K2s do. Rocker lets the skis shorten up when you're not using your total effective edge, getting you pre-engaged into your turns and tips up in softer snow. Because they shorten up, at shops we size rockered skis larger. So the K2's should be coming up to your eyes while the Unlimiteds might be better a touch shorter. K2 makes some good skis, the 90ti being the best and most advanced of the whole line. Waist width depends on your ability level and what conditions you would be in. The amp rictor 82ti or 80ca would be a good transition ski coming off of narrower skis, which it sounds like you are. The difference between those is the 82 will hold a better edge on hardpack with the titanium topsheet making it a little more stable in hard snow conditions. The K2 AMP 90ti is a quiver killer and will take any condition well but the width might take some getting used to if you haven't been on many wider rockered skis before. It is my favorite ski in the lineup it and skis easy for an aggressive ski. If you go with that, the 90 has an option to buy flat mount, which means you can drill up to 3x and the ski isn't stuck to the life of one system binding.

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Wish the lengths were the opposite.... The Unlimiteds do not have rocker while the K2s do. Rocker lets the skis shorten up when you're not using your total effective edge, getting you pre-engaged into your turns and tips up in softer snow. Because they shorten up, at shops we size rockered skis larger. So the K2's should be coming up to your eyes while the Unlimiteds might be better a touch shorter. K2 makes some good skis, the 90ti being the best and most advanced of the whole line. Waist width depends on your ability level and what conditions you would be in. The amp rictor 82ti or 80ca would be a good transition ski coming off of narrower skis, which it sounds like you are. The difference between those is the 82 will hold a better edge on hardpack with the titanium topsheet making it a little more stable in hard snow conditions. The K2 AMP 90ti is a quiver killer and will take any condition well but the width might take some getting used to if you haven't been on many wider rockered skis before. It is my favorite ski in the lineup it and skis easy for an aggressive ski. If you go with that, the 90 has an option to buy flat mount, which means you can drill up to 3x and the ski isn't stuck to the life of one system binding.

I know this thread is a few months old but as I occasionally keep researching and reading up as much as I can about several different skis for a possible purchase this is one line of skis (among others) that does spark my interest. In specific the A.R 82xti.

And I would have to disagree with the sentence above in "red".

The 90 is not the best of the line.  When vs the 82 xti Its not necessarily better but actually just a bit different of a ski.

 

Just look at the k2 website and you can see what goes into each ski. The 90 is simply just leaning a bit more towards the off piste or softer snow side of the amp rictor all mountain spectrum. They simply just engineered the 90 towards that side more so than the others.  Firstly its the biggest jump up in width of the bunch. Then they add some tech for softer snow skiing that the others don't have but conversely they also take some other tech out. Again, they just designed the ski to perform better in softer snow but that doesn't make it better, just different. .

 

The 82 xti would actually be the better suited "all mountain" for frontside carving and one might argue probably also more suited to east coast hardpack. Perhaps out west where the frontside piste is more often blessed with white fluff is were the 90 may play better. So it just depends how one views the ski for what its worth. The 82 has all the tech k2 is throwing into the new rictor series for making the ski more frontside carving bias vs the 90. So its actually the 82 xti  that could be called the best and most advanced of the bunch if that's where one spends most of his "all mountain" skiing time especially if he is not out west.

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