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Buying used skis. A warning!

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Just a short note to warn some skiers who buy used racing skis, that is, top of the line racing  World Cup or club level skis



World Cup skis are great. They are designed to give the maximum performance and so ski companies are doing all they can to get this unique performance level. One of these designs is to limit the weight at tip area, so very little "layering" is done. That becomes the weak area of these skis.


I have repaired several top level skis that seem to have the same "problem" or weak link. This seems to be true for many ski companies such as Rossignol, Volkl and Fischer. All top level companies with great skis but,,,,,


The slalom WC skis,,just at the zone when they curve up  ( at tip ) will tend to de-laminate . This past month I have seen 10 pairs that have a hair line de-lamination ( 3-10 cm. ) just in that curved zone. All from great skiers that did not hit rocks, trees or moguls.


If you do not know where to look or how to look most skiers will not see this de-lamination. It really is "hair lined".


Just beware.


Just take a "second look" , before buying. This past few weeks I visited several club ski racing sales and found several great looking racing skis ( nearly brand new ) with such delaminates. Too small or short to see the de-lamination, yet like a zipper the de-lamination will progress.

Do not try to complain to ski companies.


Just a small warning.



post #2 of 7

Is it just the topsheets?  I've spent more time and vert feet skiing on skis that had at least a small portion of tip delam than not.  However, mine used to crack mid tip and pop up from landing airs on SL and GS skis back in the day.  Some would start at the tip and work down, but that wasn't as often.  I repaired them hen they were new but just let it go after they were mover a season old.


Haven't seen that happen in my modern skis but the park skis have rivets in the tips to prevent that.  I have heard of the tip guards on SL skis being pretty worthless at the consumer race ski level models though.


Again though, if it is just the topsheet I wouldn't worry that much about it as long as it wasn't a brand new ski.

post #3 of 7
Salomon boots. Now salomon skis. Hmmmmmm .

OP, you understand why SL ski tips in particular seem to delaminate, no? If not, imagine taking a break away gate and wacking the tip of any ski you've ever owned with it as hard as you can. Now magnify that force by an order of magnitude. Now repeat, for the sake of experiment, say 50-60 times. Tell us how many of your skis survive unscathed.
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Race skis, particularly adult slalom skis take a tremendous amount of abuse. When we have our consignment sale which will have more race skis that very well any other used ski sales in the country, we are pretty particular in what we take in. If a SL ski is more than 2-3 season old, we basically refer to them as binding holders, most of these skis have little or no life on them. 


Other "Used Ski Warnings":




Atomic Devise bindings, these were recalled and most were not ever replaced. Even the race skis. Be careful of some generation Atomic race skis that will only accept these as binding choices. You will have difficulty finding bindings for them


Marker M14's on race skis. These have been off the market for 5+ years and were 12DIN Bindings with 14DIN springs. We have seen too many heels blown for begin a relatively new binding.


Salomon Pilot skis. A bad design, move on. We won't even take them in


First Generation "Shape" or "Parabolic" skis..these have more in common with an old straight ski than what is n the market now.


I will add more as I think of them. 

post #6 of 7

Agree with all the above, SL skis especially are repeatedly whacked into gates and I have seen in 6 pairs of WC Dynastar SLs one small delamination. It was maybe the size of 1/3 of a dime. It resisted all attempts to epoxy back together, probably because there simpley wasn't enough surface area to make a decent bond. It happened during a pre-season camp and lasted an entire FIS season without getting a mm bigger. Skis were sold to a fellow member with full disclosure.  I would say that shouldn't necessarily be a deal breaker but sellers need to adeqautely disclose and buyers should be aware butat the same time a buyer shouldn't think they are getting going to get $1500 skis for $50 because of a small delam.

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Originally Posted by Philpug View Post


I will add more as I think of them. 



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