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post #1 of 15
Thread Starter 

Hi Everyone, I was not sure if I should have posted this under this thread or “The Boot Guys" thread. The past season I was skiing a 90 flex boot with a 100 last. As I have been advancing in my skiing ability, this coming season I want to purchase a pair of boots that have a 130 flex. I have three boots in mind that I want to purchase and that I can afford. The Atomic Burner 130, Atomic Live Fit 130 and Atomic Waymaker Carbon 130. I’m 6’1, weigh 215 lbs, Size 10.5 (28.5) and I would say that I have regular feet (not too wide not too narrow). Which one should I go for? I know most of you will prob tell me that I should go to a boot fitter (which I will) but I would like to purchase the boot beforehand. Thanks in advance for any help.

post #2 of 15
Originally Posted by yamhoss1174 View Post

I would like to purchase the boot beforehand.


Hic sunt leones. 


That is a *huge* jump in stiffness.    Seriously, this has 17 dozen ways of turning out badly, as in money wasted and skiing misery incurred.

post #3 of 15
Thread Starter 

Well, i have gone to bootfitters before just to get a general idea of the price range of a 130 flex boot. I'm a student and I cant afford to pay $500+ for that. So i want to buy the boot before hand and made modifications if need be.

post #4 of 15
Still a bad idea.

Where you normally ski ? May be one of us could pint you to a good boot fitter. Shon at The Boot Pro in Ludlow VT like most shops could get you into last years boots at a much lower price and you still the correct boot for your size and ability.

To stiff of a boot will hold you back.

We can't stress how important a correct fitting is.

Plan to spend at least 2 hours getting fitted for the correct boot.

I've been buy boots from him or Geek the new shop manager since 1994, we still go through the same 2 hour or so process.

When I first met Geek last Nov. the first thing out of my mouth was Shon normally fit's my boots. When Geek told me his background I was fine. He is as good as Shon.
post #5 of 15

As stated above, buy a boot without the experience of being in the boot is a foolish idea. Don't fall in love with a manufacturer or model, get what fits best.


For example, I ski an Atomic Redster 130 flex boot in a 28.5 shell, but, my foot size is 11 and 1/2. I can't predict if the boots you are looking at are sized for the same length, but, if so, your boot will be too big. The biggest error new ski boot buyers make is getting a boot too big, and, there are minimal corrections for oversizing and the liner will compress after being skied. 

post #6 of 15

Why Atomic? 

The point is that different makes and different models of  a given make fit different shaped feet. The most important thing the fitter will do for you is select the boot that will be the best fit.  Modifications are often a relatively small part of the process, although custom footbeds are a nice, but expensive, luxury (for some, a necessity for others). Most fitters who sell you a boot will do minor modifications free for a year or so. (Stuff like canting, footbeds, non stock liners will be extra), If you buy the boot elsewhere the fitter will charge, and the modifications will likely be more extensive due to poor fit. So buying on line isn't likely to save you much, and if the fit is poor may cost you dearly in pain and/or poor skiing performance.


I don't see a problem with a 130 flex boot. You're a big guy so you'll flex the boot more easily, and if necessary the boot can be softened (but not stiffened.) 


Unfortunately, with increasing performance and stiffness comes increasing price. Hard to get around that. If money is really tight, you might try the swaps this fall.  At least around here some of them have knowledgeable people to help. Read up on shell fitting, understand that liners will compress over 5 days of skiing or so, so the boot should feel uncomfortably snug at first, but without serious pain. Keep in mind that it's much easier to loosen a boot than tighten it. I got my current boots at a swap, $100 for new $600 boots, although I have a lot more in them than $100 now--one grind, footbeds, and an intuition liner after the original liner got too packed out. Hope I don't get banned for admitting that, or for my advice.

And know that the difference between a poor fit and a good one can be very small. With my intuition liners, the boots are unwearable with a light sock, perfect with an ultralight.

Edited by oldgoat - 9/22/14 at 2:06pm
post #7 of 15

If you were skiing a 100mm lasted boot and liking the fit the Waymaker will probably be too big  It has a wide last and a high volume forefoot in addition to the flexible panel in the 6th toe area.  After skiing some 102 width Factors the Waymakers felt huge.  Also, keep in mind that the Waymaker has a walk mode, which makes it not as stiff forward flexing as the other "130" flex Atomics.  Same with any other walk mode boots out there.

post #8 of 15
I just bought the Atomic Hawk 2.0 boots. That said I got fitted by a pro boot fitter that recommended that boot. Give it a shot.
post #9 of 15
Thread Starter 

Ok so, I've asked Mom and Dad for some change.

I have narrowed it down to these boot fitters, Please see below.

Which one, would you guys recommend? (I am going for value here).



Hunter Pro Ski and Ride

Hickory and Tweed

Windham Boot Lab

post #10 of 15
Originally Posted by yamhoss1174 View Post

Ok so, I've asked Mom and Dad for some change.


There we go. If they say no, let us know--there is a wealth of experience here in getting folks to come up with the coin--on both sides of the transaction.

post #11 of 15
Originally Posted by yamhoss1174 View Post

Well, i have gone to bootfitters before just to get a general idea of the price range of a 130 flex boot. I'm a student and I cant afford to pay $500+ for that. So i want to buy the boot before hand and made modifications if need be.

You will guaranteed pay over $700 for new boots at a boot fitter, especially for a 130 flex.  If you want to buy cheap then you might as well not buy them at all.  You can go the online route, but you will then have to pay the boot fitter an hourly rate, as well as having to pay each time you need adjustments on that boot.


I went to Heino's and Greg is good.  I bought Lange SX 120s and  paid around $660 with a custom foot bed..

post #12 of 15

The other option is to find a boot you like and buy it cheap from a shop or on the net and then take it to a top boot fitter and pay $30 an hour to have them dial it in for you.  This is generally cheaper than buying the boot from the fitter and getting "free" fitting work done.  I recently bought a pair of Lange XT 130s at an end of the year sale for $350 at a shop with inexperienced salesmen and boot fitters, and then saw the same boot at a famous pro boot fitter's shop a week later for $850 when I took my boots there to get them dialed in.  The $500 I saved buys top line custom foot beds from the pro and a lot of fitting with hundreds of $ left over.

post #13 of 15
$30 an hour? Where? Going rate is $60-65 in most places.
post #14 of 15

Last time I had a punch done by an top drawer boot fitter it was $20, but I am sure that varies depending on how much you need them to tell you what you need.  My experience is that If you go into a boot fitter and get custom foot beds to go with boots you bring in they are generally not going to charge you another $60/hr. to deal with remaining boot issues.  How long does it take to cant the cuffs and resolve a hot spot or two?  I am assuming the OP does his homework and starts with boots that fit his foot shape reasonably well and are the correct size.  At that point if it takes a boot fitter charging $60/hr. more than two hours to get them to fit you are probably getting ripped off. 


My recent experience was a choice between buying the boot I wanted from a local shop for $350 or the same boot from a boot fitter's shop for $850, which came with a "guaranteed fit" meaning one year of free fitting, provided I also bought foot beds from them for another $150.  A $1,000 plus tax for boots that fit, or $350 plus whatever I need to pay even a $65/hr. fitter to get them right seems like an obvious choice to me.  If you have gnarly weird feet and need the full ride boot fit then get your boots from a top line shop and pay top dollar, but my point was that if your have somewhat normal feet and start with an informed boot purchase I think there are other options that are less expensive which will get you to a good fit.


I learned years ago that money spent with a good boot fitter is almost never money wasted.  If your feet hurt you are not having a good time no matter where you are or how good the skiing is, but that does not mean it makes financial sense for everyone to buy their boots from a "boot fitters" shop.

post #15 of 15
Thread Starter 
Thanks for the info, I really appreciate it! I mean look I love to ski. But saving a few hundred for me is a big deal. I appreciate all the info.
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