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post #61 of 74
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I apologize if I overstated my talents, but I meant being able to carve all piste slopes at the resort at visit regularly, which is snowshoe. Every slope except one are groomed. I can get down the slope with absolutely no skidding except for shays, which is much steeper and bumpier, and cupp run, where I have to slow down a bit more due to the length of the run.

Only once did i go out west, and that was to whistler blackcomb. I couldn't carve black diamonds there, but could carve blues that were not moguls. I'm not sure how good my parrallel turns are, but I could descend some of the double black diamonds there. 

My guess is that you are Level 7.  That's based on what terrain my daughter was skiing at Alta when she was a Level 7 at Alta Ski School.  By the time she was Level 8 (age 11-12), she would not have had to slow down on Shays or Cupp.  When it comes to steeper and more complicated terrain, there is a lot more to good skiing than carving.  Especially off piste.

 

40 days at Snowshoe is probably about equivalent to 10-15 days at a big resort out west.  The ratio of time spent on a lift vs skiing is very different.

post #62 of 74

The Bushwacker would still be an excellent ski choice for you. 

post #63 of 74

 

The Bushwacker would be a great skis for soft snow in tight trees.  In fact if you had said you spent most of your time skiing tight trees with soft snow in between them I would be recommending it.

 

Unfortunately,  you rarely get to ski soft snow, and mostly ski hardpack with a side order of ice.  That's why I recommend you should get something other than an 88 mm wide rockered ski. Especially if you want to improve your skill level.

post #64 of 74

Yikes!  I don't even know if the OP is still here and reading.  This has turned into a p*ssing match

 

But lliu, IF you are still here, pay attention to markojp.  Ghost, I'm a hard-snow ski adherent.  But really...look at the info: OP is 15.  125#.  He needs a ski that will carve well enough, but not a race ski or a dedicated hard-snow technical ski.  Let him have fun with his friends and ride a fairly cheap general purpose, carve-capable ski like the Rev80 for awhile.  Then, in a few years, he'll REALLY know what he wants.  

post #65 of 74

Umm . . . Snowshoe really does not get that icy.  Certainly nothing like Whiteface or Stowe.  Groomed manmade snow in the southeast isn't like northeast hardpack either.  There are many days the temps at Snowshoe are in the 30s or 40's even mid-season.  When temps go down after a warm spell, snowmaking is a high priority pretty much until March, along with grooming.  The typical complaint by advanced skiers at Snowshoe is that they groom out natural snowfall way too fast.

post #66 of 74
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I guess it's just my bad luck then. Out of the 9 trips to snowshoe last year, it rained on 3. The rain refroze and formed a nice layer of ice on the slopes. I don't really mind ice too much except lower shays, where my skis have slipped out from under me. (More of a problem with my technique probably) I guess their snowmaking fixes things, but on Shays they seem to only snowmake on the right side for moguls and leave the middle and left with ice.

post #67 of 74
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I guess it's just my bad luck then. Out of the 9 trips to snowshoe last year, it rained on 3. The rain refroze and formed a nice layer of ice on the slopes. I don't really mind ice too much except lower shays, where my skis have slipped out from under me. (More of a problem with my technique probably) I guess their snowmaking fixes things, but on Shays they seem to only snowmake on the right side for moguls and leave the middle and left with ice.

Oh well, guess I'm too optimistic.  I only skied at Snowshoe in early March when friends had a gathering.  I don't pay that close attention to Snowshoe weather except to notice when a snowstorm is dumping on that part of WV.  Still, the length of Shays and Cupp cannot compare to the trails in the northeast.

 

How long is the drive for you to get to Snowshoe?

post #68 of 74
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6 hours for us. We usually drive 4 hours overnight and stay in a WV hotel somewhere, then finish and arrive in the morning at 9 to start skiing. We pass winterplace on our way there. 

post #69 of 74
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6 hours for us. We usually drive 4 hours overnight and stay in a WV hotel somewhere, then finish and arrive in the morning at 9 to start skiing. We pass winterplace on our way there. 

That's dedication to southeast skiing!  I drive 4 hours up to Massanutten for weekend trips from central NC.  But no mountain driving to worry about.  Plus rarely have to worry about snow on the roads.  It's 6-7 hours to Snowshoe, even in good weather.

 

Have you ever stopped to ski Winterplace at night?  It's a fun little place when it's not crowded.  Meaning midweek or nights since weekends are a madhouse.  The first time I went to Snowshoe, we skied at WInterplace on a Friday before heading to SS.  Ended up driving in the dark during an early March snowstorm.  Not fun.  I was glad we stayed at the Inn so I didn't have to wander around at the top of the mountain until morning.

post #70 of 74
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We used to go to winterplace quite often but found snowshoe a more fun and challenging with less lines and faster lifts. (At western territory at least). Winterplace was quite fun but the problem was that the lifts were slow and lines were pretty bad sometimes.

However, winterplace is much cheaper and more convenient though, and we would stay at an inn that was a 5 min drive. Night skiing was also nice, and there were nice views from the top of the mountain at all the lights from the highway and town. I guess silver creek is kinda like winterplace, but I havent seen as much crowding at silver creek. The bus ride to silver creek is a major pain, though.

post #71 of 74
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We used to go to winterplace quite often but found snowshoe a more fun and challenging with less lines and faster lifts. (At western territory at least). Winterplace was quite fun but the problem was that the lifts were slow and lines were pretty bad sometimes.

However, winterplace is much cheaper and more convenient though, and we would stay at an inn that was a 5 min drive. Night skiing was also nice, and there were nice views from the top of the mountain at all the lights from the highway and town. I guess silver creek is kinda like winterplace, but I havent seen as much crowding at silver creek. The bus ride to silver creek is a major pain, though.

Agree that the lifts at Winterplace are pretty slow.  Typical for the southeast though.  The real problem is that there isn't a way to get away from the beginners/intermediates.

 

Before my daughter was good enough to ski over on the Western Territory, we would take the bus over to Silver Creek for lunch and ski over there in the afternoon.  The cafeteria food isn't the greatest but the place was usually pretty empty, unlike the weekend crowds in the village.  Actually my daughter liked staying at Silver Creek because since the pool is in the building.  Also good if anyone in a group wants to go night skiing.  Just have to plan on cooking dinner in the unit.

post #72 of 74
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I guess it's just my bad luck then. Out of the 9 trips to snowshoe last year, it rained on 3. The rain refroze and formed a nice layer of ice on the slopes. I don't really mind ice too much except lower shays, where my skis have slipped out from under me. (More of a problem with my technique probably) I guess their snowmaking fixes things, but on Shays they seem to only snowmake on the right side for moguls and leave the middle and left with ice.


I had the same experience when trying to plan a few trips to Snowshoe last winter.  3 of the 4 times I considered going, there was rain and then ice in the forecast.  I wonder how much of this was just unique circumstances last winter, versus a typical weather pattern?  I don't know the place well enough to know the answer.  In any event, based on my experiences at Snowshoe, it was pretty difficult to find any real off-piste skiing.  The "glades" were closed most of the season.  Shay's had some nice, challenging bumps on one side of it, but if there was a post-rain, frozen crust on them, it was definitely not fun!  When I was there in mid-to-late March, the upper section of Knot Bumper had some excellent bumps and some pitch as well, but I don't know how often they allow the bumps to form there.  There were usually some bumps on the skier's right side of Lower Ballhooter as well, but this is a much flatter run.

 

Overall, I don't know how much of an "all-mountain" class ski you would need there.  If you get one, definitely err on the side of more frontside capabilities.  I skied my Head RnR's (94 width) there one day, but that was after a decent amount of snow and spring corn conditions.  Outside of those types of days, 80 or sub-80mm widths seemed to fit that mountain well.

post #73 of 74
Don't post often but I live in nc and ski and use a dynastar slicer and moment deathwish. The slicer will carve just fine and is also a fun playful ski. I have it on a at dynafit setup and the deathwish regular alpine. If you get up to timberline WV you'll appreciate the DW IN the trees. Just my 2 cents but I think going narrow is all wrong unless racing. YMMV
post #74 of 74

Snowshoe does indeed get icy!  The steeper blacks get ridiculous with ice.

 

And it does rain.  I skied in the rain there on January 5, 2015 for the first time. It was kinda fun as no one was on the slopes.  But it was wet.

 

And yes, Winter Place is a fun little place to ski too.  I'd recommend both if you're in the area.

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