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Bluehouse Maestros Vs. Rossignol Soul 7

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Hi everybody, I'm looking to get a new pair of skis and from some research I've narrowed it down to these 2 pairs. I don't really mind groomer/ice performance, but it would be an added bonus in case of a tie. Primarily I'm looking for an all mountain ski with a strong preference for moguls and powder. I read that the Maestro was a very quick, nimble tree ski, which should translate to moguls quite well, and I've heard of some MJ locals who love the ski in these conditions. Likewise, the soul 7 has been praised in both powder and bumps. My main concern would be icy/narrower moguls. Pillowy bumps are enjoyable with a wide variety of skis, but when the conditions turn sour and you need to plow through a hard, tight zipper line once in while, which ski would handle that better? Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thank you!

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My main concern would be icy/narrower moguls. Pillowy bumps are enjoyable with a wide variety of skis, but when the conditions turn sour and you need to plow through a hard, tight zipper line once in while, which ski would handle that better? 

 

Neither.  You need a narrower ski for a tight zipper line in firm snow.  Around 90mm is the widest I like.  You got one of those?  If so, adding a wider ski for soft days makes sense.  If not, start with the narrower skis.

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When I saw this thread my first thought was, 'oh boy, someone's asking about my fave ski!  Let me spill all the deets!'  That thought evaporated though when I considered that the OP asked for a compare/contrast with a Rossi that I've never been on.  Also...... I may have been sufficiently verbose over the last few years to reasonably assume that the OP, or anyone searching for Bluehouse Maestro info on this site has already read my raves.

 

I really enjoy skiing the Maestro in the type of crud we get in CO but probably crud busting is this ski's weak point.  If the Soul 7 beats it by much anywhere, my hunch is it's in the cut up/piled up.

 

So, @perplexed, I love the Maestros and am happy to talk about this affliction.  Let me know if you have questions.

 

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Hi everybody, I'm looking to get a new pair of skis and from some research I've narrowed it down to these 2 pairs. I don't really mind groomer/ice performance, but it would be an added bonus in case of a tie. Primarily I'm looking for an all mountain ski with a strong preference for moguls and powder. I read that the Maestro was a very quick, nimble tree ski, which should translate to moguls quite well, and I've heard of some MJ locals who love the ski in these conditions. Likewise, the soul 7 has been praised in both powder and bumps. My main concern would be icy/narrower moguls. Pillowy bumps are enjoyable with a wide variety of skis, but when the conditions turn sour and you need to plow through a hard, tight zipper line once in while, which ski would handle that better? Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thank you!

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Soul7 folds up when it gets firm or heavy......  Ski it in anything soft and its a blast. 

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tball, I do have  a pair of dedicated mogul skis that I love, it's just that I've always been more of a one ski quiver kind of person, so I'm always trying to find that perfect ski for my needs. Upon reflection, bulletproof bumps aren't much fun for me anyways and I typically don't encounter them unless I seek them out when I have a bad itch for moguls. I think I'm leaning more toward Maestros because of their strong points and I'll just negotiate their weak points when I have to. @bumpfreaq yeah I did read a bunch of your posts about them, haha. If I may ask, what year Maestros do you have? I can't find any previous year models for sale and the 2014/2015 M6's are supposed to be stiffer and unless I'm missing something, all rocker and no camber, which might make them less versatile and leaning more toward big mountain/freeride.

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Soul7 folds up when it gets firm or heavy......  Ski it in anything soft and its a blast. 

One person's "folds up" (alarming mental picture; wonder if Finn got hit in the forehead by the tips :eek ) is another person's "requires more attention." If that second person is me. I tend to meander around in soft snow, make lots of turns even if I'm in a bowl, enjoy the sensation, often hike to exposures that are technical or tight where charging will get you maimed or worse. So I value soft snow skis that are easy to billygoat on, light, easy to handle at lower to moderate speeds. In firm or heavy, that means you either slow down or you get an education in ski management. Not unlike being on a well-used course, actually, where you'll hit ruts and rubble that require some fast adjustments. Not necessarily as relaxing as letting the ski do the work as we blast though heavy snow, but then neither is low speed maneuvering in steep trees on those same nice beefy boards. It's all about what you value most, and what you're willing to trade off, not about finding the perfect ski...

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all things considered, you have to look at skis that handle certain/different snow conditions better than others. You are correct and I fully agree there is no perfect ski however, there are skis that do perform better in certain conditions than others.  The term "fold up" means that it quickly finds its limits for high performance as compared to its soft snow performance once things gets firmer and heavier.  It doesn't mean it can't be skied, it does require more attention.  IF I were to look for a ski that performed well in those conditions I couldn't recommend it and I certainly wouldn't have bought it.  You don't see me selling mine do you?  Thumbs Up 


Edited by Finndog - 9/22/14 at 11:47am
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If you do, I'll expect a PM first. ;)

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If you do, I'll expect a PM first. wink.gif

Apparently a Gremlin chewed on the tip, but here you go:

http://www.epicski.com/t/127672/fs-180-rossignol-soul-7s-w-salomon-sth14-450-shipping#post_1767019
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tball, I do have  a pair of dedicated mogul skis that I love, it's just that I've always been more of a one ski quiver kind of person, so I'm always trying to find that perfect ski for my needs. Upon reflection, bulletproof bumps aren't much fun for me anyways and I typically don't encounter them unless I seek them out when I have a bad itch for moguls. I think I'm leaning more toward Maestros because of their strong points and I'll just negotiate their weak points when I have to. @bumpfreaq yeah I did read a bunch of your posts about them, haha. If I may ask, what year Maestros do you have? I can't find any previous year models for sale and the 2014/2015 M6's are supposed to be stiffer and unless I'm missing something, all rocker and no camber, which might make them less versatile and leaning more toward big mountain/freeride.

I spent a couple of years on the original model then last year switched to the panda graphic...not sure what year that one's from but it is slightly stiffer.  Not up to date on the current offerings but I'd love to try 'em.... though I might miss the camber.  Good thing I've got a pair of the creepy leprechaun graphic waiting in plastic =)

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Niicee,How much do you want for them :rolleyes

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Apparently a Gremlin chewed on the tip, but here you go:

http://www.epicski.com/t/127672/fs-180-rossignol-soul-7s-w-salomon-sth14-450-shipping#post_1767019

 

 

...and those are owned by the most awesomest ski-dude, Segbrown.....;)

 

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I thought segbrown was a gal.

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I'm both.

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I thought segbrown was a gal.

 

 

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I'm both.

Its a conundrum.   One day you'll meet Segbrown and all will be revealed....    Now, back to the important matter at hand, Buy those skis dammit!  :D

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