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Friday before Superbowl: A-Basin or Copper

post #1 of 17
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My group will be skiing a day in Summit county on the way to Aspen on the Friday before the Superbowl.

Initially I was settled on A-Basin, especially with that $149 4-pack deal and lack of crowds... But now I'm reading that coverage on a lot of terrain could be iffy.

Plan B would be Copper Mountain. Its a little more $ even if we can score some discounts and the crowds could be worse.

We're hitting Loveland on the day of the flight home as its the most traffic friendly... So I'd rather limit to the other two options.

Which is the better option... if going on a late January Friday?
post #2 of 17
I'd wait as long as possible, but I would think Copper would be a better bet.
post #3 of 17
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I'd wait as long as possible, but I would think Copper would be a better bet.

OK... Maybe I won't pull the trigger on that A Basin 4 pack.
post #4 of 17

I love both of these places and I expect you would too, especially coming from the east.  I don't think you have to worry about crowds at either place.  Certainly worth checking the conditions before deciding.  Also, if your group wants a bigger area with a wide range of ability that's more like a resort go with Copper.  If you want to go someplace smaller with a more unique character and vibe go to A-basin.  Glad you're going to LL.  These three are my favorites and you'll love them.

post #5 of 17
Ts a virtual certainty that you'll have more terrain at Copper.
post #6 of 17
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Ts a virtual certainty that you'll have more terrain at Copper.

 

Absolutely. That doesn't mean there won't be enough to keep you happy for a day at ABasin, but if it is a low snow year, Copper will be better for sure.

 

The other thing is altitude -- Copper is high, but ABasin is really high, and for your first day out, it can be troublesome. What day do you fly in? 

post #7 of 17
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Thursday evening. We'll sleep low in Denver and head out real early Friday (and use the 2 hour change of time-zone to our favour).  The 4 lift tickets for $149 at A-basin looked like too good a deal to pass up... but not if its going to be iffy conditions.

 

Our group has gone to SLC 4 of the last 5 years, and most of the guys like Brighton the best... despite being smaller.  From what I've read, A-Basin seems like its closest to Brighton in that its smaller, but seems to have fun terrain.  We don't bother with the Brighton parks... but we like the trees, and in-between trail areas there.  

post #8 of 17
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Thursday evening. We'll sleep low in Denver and head out real early Friday (and use the 2 hour change of time-zone to our favour).  The 4 lift tickets for $149 at A-basin looked like too good a deal to pass up... but not if its going to be iffy conditions.

 

Our group has gone to SLC 4 of the last 5 years, and most of the guys like Brighton the best... despite being smaller.  From what I've read, A-Basin seems like its closest to Brighton in that its smaller, but seems to have fun terrain.  We don't bother with the Brighton parks... but we like the trees, and in-between trail areas there.  

 

 

A-Basin is much more like Brighton or Alta than Copper.....I love Copper but if I were in your shoes I'd got to the Basin.  Copper is twice as big so will have more terrain but the Basin has great compact terrain and easy to see and find stuff to ski.  Copper requires more knowledge to get around and hit the goods.

post #9 of 17
^^ yeah, knowing that they aren't flying in Friday and going straight there, it's probably not a bad thing to go to Abasin, as long as we haven't gotten skunked on snow. Those four packs from Abasin are still transferable, right? I know people resell them on craigslist and eBay all the time. Most likely, everything will be fine. You were going to ski three more days anyway, so even if you're don't get the hugest terrain, it should be fine
post #10 of 17
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Okay, maybe I'll buy the 4-pack and sell it when I get down there if conditions are iffy.  I should have mentioned as well... another reason why Brighton is a hit, is it is always nice in the trees, even when it hasn't snowed in a long time and Snowbird is long tracked out.  Does the Basin preserve snow in a similar manner vs the big guys in CO?  I skied Vail on a powder day before, and couldn't find much after 11am... though maybe I just didn't know where to look.

post #11 of 17

No one has asked this yet, what level of a skier are you? What type of terrain do you like? 

 

Copper is bigger and takes a little knowledge to get around, but with that said it's not like you need to make long traverses like at Vail. The trails are clearly marked and at intersections that will lead to separate base areas, there will additional signage that says which trail leads where. Copper is naturally divided, as they frequently like to brag about so you can stay in whatever pod you're in and take a different run each time.

 

Timberline has some nice blues, alpine has longggg bump trails, blackjack has some nice, albeit short bowls, along with Sierra. Super Bee has some nice steep groomed blacks, although they may be closed for racing. 

 

If you're looking for technically difficult terrain, A-Basin has the east wall, although unless Colorado gets pummeled with snow this year I doubt it will be open when you come. A Basin pretty much blows all their snow early season on four trails, while blowing nothing else on any of their other terrain. A-Basin gets a lot more snow than Copper, so if it's a good snow year I'd recommend A-Basin.

 

Bottom line. All the long term forecasts show Colorado to have an average snow year. With that said, I'd play it safe and go with Copper.

post #12 of 17
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Super Bee has some nice steep groomed blacks, although they may be closed for racing. 

 

 

The racers should be long gone by the superbowl.   The US Ski Team's speed center closes down mid-December, opening that whole side of the mountain to the public.   I Copper hosted one other race on the course last year, maybe a day or two in March?  If steep groomers are your thing, you could call to find out for sure.  It's a pretty big deal and almost certainly planned by now.

 

Personally, I'd try to decide based on weather.  A-basin gets really small on a low visibility day unless you are happy skiing the Pali lift expert runs all day.   It's just not much fun skiing above tree line when you can't see where you are going... or really even when it's cloudy.   A-basin is so high there is very little below tree line skiing.  

 

Copper is a bit lower, so there is a fantastic variety of below tree line skiing in addition to the higher bowls.   If you have to pick in advance Copper is the safer bet... more snowmaking, and better in all weather conditions. 

post #13 of 17
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The racers should be long gone by the superbowl.   The US Ski Team's speed center closes down mid-December, opening that whole side of the mountain to the public.   I Copper hosted one other race on the course last year, maybe a day or two in March?  If steep groomers are your thing, you could call to find out for sure.  It's a pretty big deal and almost certainly planned by now.

 

Copper is a bit lower, so there is a fantastic variety of below tree line skiing in addition to the higher bowls.   If you have to pick in advance Copper is the safer bet... more snowmaking, and better in all weather conditions. 

There are race events other than the US ski team. I remember the black under the super bee being closed on January 29th last season. I'm sure there is a race schedule floating around somewhere. 

 

The race in March you are referring to is for the special olympics. It only lasts a day, and the steepest trail they'll use is copperopolis.

 

 

 

Put it this way, in optimal conditions, (IMO) A-Basin is better than Copper. In average to marginal conditions, since Copper has more terrain and grooming, it will be the winner. 

post #14 of 17
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A-Basin gets a lot more snow than Copper, so if it's a good snow year I'd recommend A-Basin.

I don't think this is true. The basin may get more snow over a season, but only because it has a much longer season.

Mike
post #15 of 17

ABasin gets enough snow, but the problem is the wind. Half the freshies get blown to Kansas :eek

post #16 of 17
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No one has asked this yet, what level of a skier are you? What type of terrain do you like?

We're advanced skiers and snowboarders. Our favourite runs are the tree runs at Brighton and Snowbird. The steep sections in Tiger tail area at the Bird would about the limit of what we can tackle and still consider fun.
post #17 of 17
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The race in March you are referring to is for the special olympics. It only lasts a day, and the steepest trail they'll use is copperopolis.

 

 

There was another race too.  They used the bottom of the downhill course on Andy's and Rossi's.  I think it was from the top of the A-lift down.   I remember specifically because we had family friends in town and they enjoyed skiing by the netting being setup.  One guy was being an idiot and crashed into the padding :rolleyes  so I got out my phone and shot a little video of him getting up.   Google automagically added him to the end of this video it created from that day:

 

 

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