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Dynastar Outland 87 / Rossi Experience 88 / Head Rev 85 Pro? (could also use length advice)

post #1 of 11
Thread Starter 

In following up with my post below and reading a lot of reviews these are 3 that I'm strongly considering now.  

 

5'10 - 190-195 ish (could be anywhere from 185-200 though.

 

Advanced but not expert.

 

Live in Michigan but get out west 2x year.

 

Out west I typically ski 60/40 or 50/50, I don't ski moguls much anymore.  Do like speed, but want something a bit more forgiving than my last skis (Head IM82 circa 2008 or so).  Liked that ski but always felt I had to be on top of it.  It was a blast while tearing down groomers though.

 

In Michigan, well we have what we have - groomers.  That is where I figure I should look for a 70/30 ski.

 

Any thoughts on the above 3 skis?  They read pretty similar.  Great deals to be had on the Outland 87's from 2013 in particular.

 

Also, torn on length.  Do I go with a 172 or go up to a 178ish?

 

Thanks!

post #2 of 11

All three sound like good choices.  I would add the Fischer Motive 86 to the list.  And with your height and weight, I would go with a 175-180 length.

post #3 of 11

Three good skis with three different characteristics. 

 

The Rev85 while looks similar to your old iM82, is is a much more forgiving ski without loosing the ability to cruise at high speeds but much more compliant in the bumps and soft snow. The Rossi with it's snub nose and aggressive sidecut is best on the firm snow but not as workable off piste unless you are at the top of your game, @tetonpwdrjunkie is one of the few people who I have seen work a E88 well off piste. The Dynastar has the same construction as the Rossi but while better off piste, not nearly as good on the groomers along with having a mount point that just feels too far forward. Out of these three and for what you are looking for, the Rev85 in the 178 would be my suggestion. 

post #4 of 11
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by Philpug View Post
 

Three good skis with three different characteristics. 

 

The Rev85 while looks similar to your old iM82, is is a much more forgiving ski without loosing the ability to cruise at high speeds but much more compliant in the bumps and soft snow. The Rossi with it's snub nose and aggressive sidecut is best on the firm snow but not as workable off piste unless you are at the top of your game, @tetonpwdrjunkie is one of the few people who I have seen work a E88 well off piste. The Dynastar has the same construction as the Rossi but while better off piste, not nearly as good on the groomers along with having a mount point that just feels too far forward. Out of these three and for what you are looking for, the Rev85 in the 178 would be my suggestion. 

Thanks a ton.

 

I'm open to other suggestions.  Thoughts on the Volkl RTM 81 and 84?  Kendo?

 

Any others I should really be looking at?  Some great deals out there right now on 13/14 skis and ebay even has an extra 10pct off today.  Was thinking of jumping in and taking the plunge on some.

post #5 of 11
I still have the Dynastar Outland 87 in my quiver in a 178. I am an advanced skier who is 5'9"/170 lbs.
post #6 of 11

Very different 3 skis...I have the same weight as you and I didn't liked the 3 of them in term of carving at speed on hardpack... I'll come back with suggestions... What are the conditions where you usually ski? Icy?


Edited by mogsie - 9/15/14 at 1:09pm
post #7 of 11
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Philpug View Post
 

Three good skis with three different characteristics. 

 

The Rev85 while looks similar to your old iM82, is is a much more forgiving ski without loosing the ability to cruise at high speeds but much more compliant in the bumps and soft snow. The Rossi with it's snub nose and aggressive sidecut is best on the firm snow but not as workable off piste unless you are at the top of your game, @tetonpwdrjunkie is one of the few people who I have seen work a E88 well off piste. The Dynastar has the same construction as the Rossi but while better off piste, not nearly as good on the groomers along with having a mount point that just feels too far forward. Out of these three and for what you are looking for, the Rev85 in the 178 would be my suggestion. 

Thanks a ton.

 

I'm open to other suggestions.  Thoughts on the Volkl RTM 81 and 84?  Kendo?

 

Any others I should really be looking at?  Some great deals out there right now on 13/14 skis and ebay even has an extra 10pct off today.  Was thinking of jumping in and taking the plunge on some.

You struck oil with the Rev85…stop drilling. The right ski is always a better value than the cheapest ski. 

post #8 of 11

For high speed carving and also versatility:

 

Volkl RTM81 (in 176 or 181): amazing edge hold! Nice skis but I'm missing the camber...

 

Blizzard Magnum 8.5 ( in 181): there is still some out there! Amazing edge hold with some camber!

 

Blizzard Brahma: same as the magnum but 1 1/2 notch under it in term of performance...

 

 

 

in term of high speed carving in Michigan, I could also suggest the Speed cross that I'm selling: really nice carver and great versatility for a 72 mm under foot:

http://www.epicski.com/t/124259/dynastar-speed-cross-178cm

 

Or the Steadfast:

http://www.epicski.com/t/129001/fs-skis-2012-steadfast-flat-in-178-cm

post #9 of 11
Quote:
Originally Posted by Philpug View Post
 

Three good skis with three different characteristics. 

 

The Rev85 while looks similar to your old iM82, is is a much more forgiving ski without loosing the ability to cruise at high speeds but much more compliant in the bumps and soft snow. The Rossi with it's snub nose and aggressive sidecut is best on the firm snow but not as workable off piste unless you are at the top of your game, @tetonpwdrjunkie is one of the few people who I have seen work a E88 well off piste. The Dynastar has the same construction as the Rossi but while better off piste, not nearly as good on the groomers along with having a mount point that just feels too far forward. Out of these three and for what you are looking for, the Rev85 in the 178 would be my suggestion. 

 

I was going to recommend the 178 E88 that I've been using for the last two seasons.  I LOVE this ski on and off-piste in snow up to knee deep.  I think it's a great ski and not hard at all to ski.  Thanks Phil for the compliment!  I don't like the Dynastar as much because of the hostage binding.

 

This season I will likely retire the E88s, mount them with Hammerheads, and use them as my Telemark ski.  My new Alpine ski will probably be the Fischer Motive 95.

post #10 of 11
Thread Starter 

Well,

 

PIcked up some new in package 177's tonight for a great price.  No bindings though... I've never given much thought to bindings, but open to suggestions (rail type system or not, or does it really matter?)

post #11 of 11

Skied Dynastar Outland 87s for the past 2 seasons in everything from boiler plate to 2' of powder.  Love the ski but they do not grip on boiler plate as well as I would like.  As a former racer/coach I am accustomed to more bite for the truly hard stuff.  Having said that, I love to ski them.  Stable and skis all other conditions really well.  No regrets buying them at all but they ski best on softer snow on a big mountain where you can let them go.

 

Bill

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