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Mt. Hood Meadows and Mt. Baker reciprocal agreement, 5 free days for unlimited pass holders 2014-15

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Mt. Hood Meadows and Mt. Baker announced their new reciprocal agreement for 2014-15.  Unlimited pass holders can get up to 5 lift tickets at the other ski area on weekdays from January through February, as well as any day starting March 1 until the end of operations.  Mt. Hood is also in the Powder Alliance.  But unlike the Powder Alliance ski areas, Mt. Baker is is close enough that a drive to Mt. Hood is more likely 5-6 hours.  Apparently Mt. Baker has never done this type of arrangement before.

 

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https://www.skihood.com/about-us/meadows-blog/posts/2014/09/meadows-and-mt-baker-offer-five-free-days-to-passholders

 

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Mt. Hood Meadows President and CEO Matthew Drake says the partnership provides value for passholders. “We sought out a compatible ski resort and ownership / management team that shared our core values, consistently provided a high quality experience with dependable snow that would excite our unlimited passholders. Mt. Baker has the terrain worth driving to and accumulates more snow than any ski area in the country. Our passholders indicated it is one of their favored areas that they want to visit in addition to Mt. Hood Meadows. We’re eager to add these five free days as a benefit that is a real value for our loyal unlimited passholders.”
 
Mt. Baker Ski Area General Manager Duncan Howat says this is a unique partnership, and Mt. Hood Meadows was selected carefully. “We chose to do this program because we appreciate that both Mt. Baker and Mt. Hood Meadows are locally owned and operated ski areas. That fact combined with Mt. Hood Meadows' long spring season and the area's variety of recreation will make for a fun opportunity for Baker's pass holders.”
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Edit: corrected based on clarification in a later post

post #2 of 21

It'll give Baker skiers more room to zoom than they have at home, and Meadows skiers more gnarly terrain to test their chops on.  And there's lots of good beer near both places.  What's not to love?

post #3 of 21
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Originally Posted by marznc View Post
 

Mt. Hood is also in the Powder Alliance.  But unlike the Powder Alliance ski areas, Mt. Baker is is close enough that a drive to Mt. Hood is more likely.  Apparently Mt. Baker has never done this type of arrangement before.

 

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https://www.skihood.com/about-us/meadows-blog/posts/2014/09/meadows-and-mt-baker-offer-five-free-days-to-passholders

 

Different "Mt. Hood" ski areas... Mt. Hood Ski Bowl and Timberline are in Powder Alliance; their cross-mountain rival Mt. Hood Meadows just announced this deal with Mt. Baker. I wonder if Meadows season pass sales were being hurt significantly by Portlanders choosing to go with the Mt. Hood Fusion Pass/Powder Alliance instead.

 

Also, I don't know the drive time to Mt. Baker, but it can't be much closer than Stevens Pass, can it? And Schweitzer isn't out of the question for a driving trip from Portland, either, so the Powder Alliance seems like a viable option for Mt. Hood area residents.

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Originally Posted by marznc View Post
 

Mt. Hood is also in the Powder Alliance.  But unlike the Powder Alliance ski areas, Mt. Baker is is close enough that a drive to Mt. Hood is more likely.  Apparently Mt. Baker has never done this type of arrangement before.

 

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https://www.skihood.com/about-us/meadows-blog/posts/2014/09/meadows-and-mt-baker-offer-five-free-days-to-passholders

 

Different "Mt. Hood" ski areas... Mt. Hood Ski Bowl and Timberline are in Powder Alliance; their cross-mountain rival Mt. Hood Meadows just announced this deal with Mt. Baker. I wonder if Meadows season pass sales were being hurt significantly by Portlanders choosing to go with the Mt. Hood Fusion Pass/Powder Alliance instead.

 

Also, I don't know the drive time to Mt. Baker, but it can't be much closer than Stevens Pass, can it? And Schweitzer isn't out of the question for a driving trip from Portland, either, so the Powder Alliance seems like a viable option for Mt. Hood area residents.

Thanks for the clarification.  I updated Post #1.

 

I usually have to stop and think when I see "Timberline" because my first thought is of Timberline in WV. :rolleyes

post #5 of 21
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I don't know the drive time to Mt. Baker, but it can't be much closer than Stevens Pass, can it?

It's not closer to Hood at all, it's farther by about an hour. 

post #6 of 21
Weekdays only during main skiing season so more of a PR thing than of much use to skiers. Someone might got to Baker (or Hood) on weekend trip to try it out but both are commuter hills and not destination resorts one would plan a during the week on vacation time trip. Kind of a "why bother" offer.
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Weekdays only during main skiing season so more of a PR thing than of much use to skiers. Someone might got to Baker (or Hood) on weekend trip to try it out but both are commuter hills and not destination resorts one would plan a during the week on vacation time trip. Kind of a "why bother" offer.
Depends on if your a weekend skier. Unlike you some people only ski weekdays.
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Depends on if your a weekend skier. Unlike you some people only ski weekdays.

I ski weekdays but I'm not going to drive 12 hours round trip to ski Mt. Baker for the day. Doubt anyone from Seattle would do the same to ski Hood for the day.

I might for a weekend but then the ticket isn't valid for weekends.

It's pointless marketing.
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I ski weekdays but I'm not going to drive 12 hours round trip to ski Mt. Baker for the day. Doubt anyone from Seattle would do the same to ski Hood for the day.

I might for a weekend but then the ticket isn't valid for weekends.

It's pointless marketing.

 

It's valid on weekends in March and April.  There's (normally) still a lot of good skiing left at that point in the year.

post #10 of 21
If it were me, I'd take a few days, drive from Portland to B'ham or vice versa, ski for 2-3 days. The reciprocal agreement is for up to 5 day passes, so why drive all that distance for just one day. Both Baker and Meadows have enough terrain to entertain for days.

That said, I'm planning on getting a discounted instructor's pass at Stevens with the indie ski school I teach with. I didn't use the Powder Alliance last year; I never got a clear answer on whether an instructor's pass qualifies for Powder Alliance benefits. It's an everyday pass, but the resorts must have some way of determining which passes are eligible since midweek passes don't receive the benefit.
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If it were me, I'd take a few days, drive from Portland to B'ham or vice versa, ski for 2-3 days.

Most PDX'ers would drive another hour to Whistler and I'd guess an SEA'ers would do the same vs. driving to Hood.

 

It's a PR stunt and a dumb one.

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Hmmm......perhaps from your perspective, but I'd be just fine skiing Baker, it's got great terrain and no lift lines. Whistler is a great destination resort, but then they're not offering 5 complimentary day passes to Whistler. Free trumps $100 lift tickets in my reckoning.  

 

I wouldn't be at all surprised to find out that a significant number of Meadows pass holders take advantage of a few free skiing days at Baker, and vice versa. I actually kind of enjoy what Meadows has that other PNW mountains don't, some nice long cruisers up to 2700' vertical, a mid-mt ski-in coffee bar, above tree-line skiing,  Not to mention Heather Canyon.  Or let's say a Portlander were already going to Whistler, it's almost a no-brainer to take a few days at Baker if there's no additional cost, other than a night or two at a reasonably priced Bellingham motel.  

 

And, what if it was just marketing/PR B.S.?   What's your problem with it?   Do you actually have an objection to a resort trying a new marketing twist, one that conceivable would add value to a pass for some people, even if not yourself?  :dunno 

post #13 of 21
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Originally Posted by DesiredUsername View Post Free trumps $100 lift tickets in my reckoning. 

Except it's not "free" because you have to get hotel etc. so the "free" tickets get costly in time and money and then you have to stay hour+- away and only ski weekdays...lot of hoops to leap through.

 

It's a dumb offer.  If they really wanted people to check out the other ski areas, they'd have made the offer apply to regular season.  People might check it out on a weekend trip, not a multi-day weekday, that's going to be something more than a commuter ski area like Hood and Baker.

post #14 of 21

As a MHM passholder with a weekday job, this is pretty useless to me. I would much rather our passes be part of something like Powder Alliance with a few days at resorts that are actually destination resorts.

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Originally Posted by kauffee View Post
 

As a MHM passholder with a weekday job, this is pretty useless to me. I would much rather our passes be part of something like Powder Alliance with a few days at resorts that are actually destination resorts.


I can see local commuter resorts trying to help each other out but excluding when most people would use it is, as you note, useless.  It's not as if they going to be overwhelmed by people using the pass on the Saturday or Sunday.  It's a long haul either way.  If you were trying to build some repeat business, it would be people hitting one or the other up on Sat-Sun trips so they are excluding the only probable use people would have for either area.

 

And engendering some "thanks for nothing" sentiment from their season ticket holders.  Brilliant.

post #16 of 21

Who would choose to drive I-5 between Portland and Bellingham (which includes driving through the center of the entire Puget Sound region) on a Friday night and Sunday evening?  I, unfortunately, have to do this from time to time and I can tell you that it turns an easy 5 hour drive into a nightmare.  Nobody in their right mind would do it by choice.  Weekdays are better.

 

I know that I, for one, will definitely take them up on this offer, but I have the time.  It won't amount to much for either place, but for me it's great.

 

If you do come to Baker to use the pass, I suggest that you check out lodging in Glacier, it's 36 miles closer to the ski area than Bellingham.  While there is only one "motel" with four rooms, there are a lot of cabins and condos there which are available for rent.  You can find a link to a site that coordinates rentals of that sort in my Mt. Baker Unofficial Guide which is linked in my signature line.  Scroll down to #8 for lodging.

post #17 of 21
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And engendering some "thanks for nothing" sentiment from their season ticket holders.  Brilliant.

Baker's season pass rates are the same as last year, so if it's nothing we got, it's nothing we paid for, either.

post #18 of 21

The offer is certainly "no harm, no foul," but I'm inclined to agree with Eagles that utilization will likely be very low.  I'd guess the overwhelming majority of the passholders at both areas are drive-up locals who mainly ski weekends.   The drive is not trivial, will only be done on a multiday trip, and other areas will be visited for most of those days IMHO.

post #19 of 21

It might be that Meadows will get more Baker people than the other way 'round.  Mt. Baker has a lot of young ski/board bum pass holders, many of whom are marginally employed and who might have weekdays free to head to PDX with their buddies to couch surf and hit Hood.  Maybe.

 

If you're a Hoodie, watch for boarders (and sometimes skiers) with all the bro-brah signs.  If you see more than usual on the weekdays this season it might be the above mentioned Baker Bums.

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Baker Bums or Ptown Hoods. Fortunately Bachelor is too cheap to have any pass deals. Well there was 1 this year but they screwed that up too. PCMR.
post #21 of 21

I think this is great. I"m not sure why there are all the negative comments. I may be moving to Portland next year and skied 6 days in a row at Baker this past year. After March 1 there are still quite a few good days left in the season and you can go up on weekends then. I would totally do it. You just need to navigate Seattle.  

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