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Poll Results: Dates for the New England Gathering

This is a multiple choice poll
  • 50% of voters (6)
    March 20th to the 23rd
  • 41% of voters (5)
    March 27th to the 30th
  • 25% of voters (3)
    April 3rd through 6th
12 Total Votes  
post #31 of 55
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Originally Posted by LiquidFeet View Post

Which club?  I was a Ski Bee and a Ski Wheeler for some years.

I'm a Makusue. For those not familiar with the clubs in question, we are located approximately 40 feet from the other two clubs he mentioned. I know because I had to measure when I was trying to site our fire pit after the fire department asked to inspect it. Never, ever invite the fire department on your property if you can avoid it.
post #32 of 55

She.

post #33 of 55

Ski-off:  Northern VT vs North Conway!

post #34 of 55
Jeezum crow, Miss. Good thing most of us is from away. Otherwise you might be pokin' a real nest with that whole Vermont vs. New Hampshire thing. And I'm durn sure a nice lady like you wouldn't want to go doin' somethin' like that.
post #35 of 55

It has been about 5 years since I have skied New England.  Depending on business commitments that I don't know yet, I think I am in!

 

Ski on!

 

Rick

post #36 of 55

I prefer Northern VT but would attend a more NH centric gathering.  I have had some great days at Cannon, but they were a long time ago before you were allowed to ski the tramline...which, if memory serves, looks every bit as challenging and then some in comparison to Paradise at MRG.  I have skied Burke a few times, but never when the glades were open so I would welcome that opportunity as well.

 

I would definitely be in for a tour of Snowblower's home hill at Middlebury! 

post #37 of 55

Tramline at Cannon, when filled with snow:

But it's rarely filled with snow, thus rarely open.  This pic shows tons of snow covering

the humongous boulders.  Usually you usually have to navigate those visible boulders

and the bumps between them. 

 

Video of top of Paradise, with tons of snow.  Visible obstacles here are trees.   I think

Paradise is open more reliably than Tramline because the smaller boulders don't require

as much snow cover for the trail to be skiable.  Pitch may be similar, but the experience 

is different.

 


Edited by LiquidFeet - 9/10/14 at 10:21am
post #38 of 55
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by LiquidFeet View Post
 

Tramline at Cannon, when filled with snow:

But it's rarely filled with snow, thus rarely open.  This pic shows tons of snow covering

the humongous boulders that you usually have to navigate. 

 

Is that your picture?  I've never skied Tramline, so I don't know what it looks like from the top...  I've just seen it from the tram and it's always looked like a "mandatory air + mandatory rock skis" type run.  The above makes it look like fun.

post #39 of 55
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Originally Posted by KevinF View Post
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by LiquidFeet View Post
 

Tramline at Cannon, when filled with snow:

But it's rarely filled with snow, thus rarely open.  This pic shows tons of snow covering

the humongous boulders that you usually have to navigate. 

 

Is that your picture?  I've never skied Tramline, so I don't know what it looks like from the top...  I've just seen it from the tram and it's always looked like a "mandatory air + mandatory rock skis" type run.  The above makes it look like fun.

Not my pic.  Photos rarely convey the pitch, but this one does.  

I finally skied it last spring.  It did not look like this.  

There were plenty of exposed boulders between large mature bumps, and some very narrow passages between the granite.  

I took my time.  I took no air, and ate some snow without cartwheeling down.  It was fun, and worthy of a high five for me.

I was on my new Kastles and they survived, but I'd suggest rock skis instead.  

post #40 of 55

Looks like fun!

post #41 of 55

It was more like this, and will be for anyone skiing it unless their timing is very very good.

post #42 of 55
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by LiquidFeet View Post
 

Video of top of Paradise, with tons of snow.  Visible obstacles here are trees.   I think

Paradise is open more reliably than Tramline because the smaller boulders don't require

as much snow cover for the trail to be skiable.  Pitch may be similar, but the experience 

is different.

 

 

I don't know what Paradise looks like under the snow.  I'm sure the rocks in there aren't Tramline sized, however, it should also be mentioned that Mad River has a rather "liberal" policy regarding what constitutes an open trail as well.  "Ski it if you can" and all that...

post #43 of 55

We're in New England.  Anything with natural snow and notable pitch is technically rock ski territory.

post #44 of 55
Quote:
Originally Posted by LiquidFeet View Post
 

Tramline at Cannon, when filled with snow:

I think Paradise is open more reliably than Tramline because the smaller boulders don't require

as much snow cover for the trail to be skiable.  Pitch may be similar, but the experience

is different.

 

 

Quote:
Originally Posted by KevinF View Post
 

I don't know what Paradise looks like under the snow.  I'm sure the rocks in there aren't Tramline sized, however, it should also be mentioned that Mad River has a rather "liberal" policy regarding what constitutes an open trail as well.  "Ski it if you can" and all that...

 

While all this is true, MRG gets more than 50% more snow than Cannon.  That's why Paradise is generally open from mid-season onward and Tramline only opens 1-2 times a year after a big snowfall.

post #45 of 55
Epic, good idea to ski RI! Yawgoo Valley is right down the road. We can put up four people provided they bring some good Vermont beer down with them.
post #46 of 55

You have to wonder about a ski area that is next to a sod farm. That's just never a good sign. It would be pretty fun to have an EpicSki "Down Home Tour". Maybe Plake would join.

post #47 of 55

Looks like we are going on a trip with our ski club March 20 - 24.  3 days in Eastern Townships and then a night at the Stateside Lodge at Jay Peak.  Jay, apparently has a deal where you get 2 days skiing with 1 nights lodging.  

 

If the New England Gathering heads north of RI and you want to ski some trees at Jay Peak... just sayin'.

post #48 of 55
Quote:
Originally Posted by LiquidFeet View Post
 

We're in New England.  Anything with natural snow and notable pitch is technically rock ski territory.

 

not really.

 

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Originally Posted by crank View Post
 

I prefer Northern VT but would attend a more NH centric gathering.  I have had some great days at Cannon, but they were a long time ago before you were allowed to ski the tramline...which, if memory serves, looks every bit as challenging and then some in comparison to Paradise at MRG.  I have skied Burke a few times, but never when the glades were open so I would welcome that opportunity as well.

 

I would definitely be in for a tour of Snowblower's home hill at Middlebury! 

 

 

The glades at Burke would be amazing if they ever got snow. The average snowfall over there is low and the exposure seemed to melt the snow out. http://www.epicski.com/t/119484/burke-the-home-of-pow-dirt this was the first trip I ever took with Josh. We had fun at Burke, but Stowe was so much better doing that storm cycle that it was silly to leave.

post #49 of 55
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Originally Posted by bliz1978 View Post


I don't want to hijack your event so I am happy to go along. I am happy to organize a NH gathering any time. Everyone should feel free to contact me any time they want to stay at my club.

For the record, it is not true that VT gets more snow. Cannon and Bretton Woods specifically sit in a snow shadow in a bad way. Wildcat gets much more snow from coastal storms. The mountains in NH dwarf VT and as a real user more snow. Check out Figure 26 from the Snow Book: http://ccc.atmos.colostate.edu/pdfs/snowbook.pdf

 

General climatic map that doesn't account for microclimates. I grew up skiing NH almost exclusively, from age 4 to about age 22. Then I moved to Vermont, and have skied almost exclusively VT since. Apples and oranges, for sure. The northern Greens get more snow, and better snow. And the difference between overall area average and mountain snowfall is massive around here. I live about 15 miles due west of the peak of Mansfield. When we get a system through here, the mountains will routinely get double what I get in my driveway. There is even a noticeable difference between Stowe village and Mansfield most times. To the extreme, we had a system come through a couple years ago. I got about 2 inches on my car that morning. The mountain had in excess of 3 feet. That's due to the Greens and how they're situated. With a broad valley and a very large lake to their west, the main spine of the Greens anywhere North of Killington are prime sites for significant orographic lift. almost every storm system warns of upslope or downslope intensification. I don't know how many times I walk out of the grocery store with wispy clouds overhead, and look over to Mansfield to see it enveloped in dark clouds down to the 2000' line.

post #50 of 55
It's true that Cannon and Burke sits in a shadow. Painfully true, as they average under 200".

Wildcat and Bretton may be shadowed by Mt. Washington, but it's not by much. Yes they get hammered by coastal storms, but there are storms that travel too far inland and hammer VT while MWV gets the shaft. They average about 200", at the top end of NH, but still lower than all but the most Southern VT resorts.
post #51 of 55
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Originally Posted by LiquidFeet View Post
 

Ski-off:  Northern VT vs North Conway!

Chinese Downhill WTF is a Chinese downhill!!  Sorry, I couldn't resist. One of my all time favorite lines. 

 

Back on topic, I would like to attend my first gathering and lean more towards Vermont. Although, skiing Tuckermans is on my to do list.

post #52 of 55
After seeing that movie my buddies thought it would be fun to do, so there you are at the top of a steep run and someone yells " Chinese down hill" and off we went. Fun but not the safest thing to do.
post #53 of 55
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Originally Posted by Bill9994 View Post
 

Chinese Downhill WTF is a Chinese downhill!!  Sorry, I couldn't resist. One of my all time favorite lines. 

 

Back on topic, I would like to attend my first gathering and lean more towards Vermont. Although, skiing Tuckermans is on my to do list.

 

Places / times have been determined.

post #54 of 55
Thread Starter 

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Originally Posted by Bill9994 View Post
 

 

Back on topic, I would like to attend my first gathering and lean more towards Vermont. Although, skiing Tuckermans is on my to do list.

 

Sorry, I forgot to update this thread.  Dates and places have been announced here:  http://www.epicski.com/t/129532/2015-new-england-gathering-march-20th-to-23rd.  Please continue the discussion there.

 

I had to make a decision as people need time to firm up their winter travel plans, etc.

 

There is usually a thread that gets started in February / March sometime regarding a gathering of EpicSki Bears for hiking / skiing Tuckermans.  It's yet to actually happen though as people lose interest, have used up their goodwill points with the family, the weather doesn't cooperate, etc.  One of these years the stars will align.

 

@Trekchick, can you lock this thread please?

post #55 of 55

Mod note: locked per KevinF's request.  Also added a link to the active thread at the top of the Getting Together section.

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