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post #181 of 197
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I liked the idea of Idaho but the wife is not on it at all. I liked bend as well but both are way to far for her. She grew up with a close knit family and is unwilling to move to west coast and idaho seems too far for her. Hell I tried Washington where she has an aunt and uncle that was a non starter.

But hey if west of Denver works for her I will have all the skiing and cycling I could ever want. If I ever need a lake vacation I can go to lake erie at my parents cottage there. Only drawback to frisco is cost. I could financially retire in bend next year but I might have to work part time selling homes in frisco or western suburbs of denver. I really hope I can convince her to be in summit county.
post #182 of 197
" I am not sure on hospitals but assume there are alot of options for that. Not sure on road cycling or bike paths. "

There are two main hospitals in the reno Tahoe area. ST. Mary's in reno, and Tahoe Forest hospital. Both are very good.

As for the bike paths, there are paths all around Tahoe. Dedicated paths that lead from squaw to into Tahoe city and around. In Reno there are a few as well up in the Somersett neighborhood.

One of my favorite things to do in the summer is park my car at squaw and bike next to the river into Tahoe city.
post #183 of 197
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I also liked Reno but wife objected due to distance. I cannot figure her out but if she is agreeable to the Denver area I am gonna take it lol. I am not sure that hospitals will be a major concern. Income will not be an issue for us at all and I am sure she can find a place to work a shift per week or month as she feels like working at the local hospital.

 

I also loved the fact there is no state income tax in Reno. But hey small things. I better take what I can get when I get it.

post #184 of 197
Weren't you going to drive around and take a tour at some point? Or was that another thread?
post #185 of 197
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In talking with my wife she is thinking a western suburb of Denver while I am thinking Frisco. I am planning to drive the family out and grab a vrbo this June or July. Does anyone have input onto when the best time to go would be? I want to make sure the weather is nice and I have read that June can be cold. Also any ideas of trips or sights that would be family friendly with young kids while we are out there would be good.

 

Both Copper and Breck have fun summer activities for kids.  They open around June 15th and run through Labor Day, typically.  That's generally considered the summer tourist season.   We usually go up Memorial day for our first "summer" weekend... some years it's summer and others it's mud.   Copper is pretty much shut down, while the town of Breck is still pretty active in spite of the mountain being shut down too.

 

Here's an idea of the activities the resorts have for kids (in addition to all the other amazing more natural activities in the mountains):

http://www.coppercolorado.com/summer/events_and_activities/summer_activities/copper_summer_activities

 

I'd suggest the later you go in the summer, the better, as your wife will appreciate the cool mountain air more after baking in the summer heat longer.  :-)

post #186 of 197
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I liked the idea of Idaho but the wife is not on it at all. I liked bend as well but both are way to far for her. She grew up with a close knit family and is unwilling to move to west coast and idaho seems too far for her. Hell I tried Washington where she has an aunt and uncle that was a non starter.

 

My wife is from the midwest too, and the family pressure to never leave the midwest was strong. "You don't really need to ever go anywhere else or do anything different. All we need is right here in this county." Arrggggghhh. Eventually they gave up trying thank god.

post #187 of 197
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Weren't you going to drive around and take a tour at some point? Or was that another thread?


I was until wife stated I am willing to move to Denver and no where else. lol I figured I can push the mountain suburb of summit county and everything else is a waste of time and breath to discuss.

post #188 of 197
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Both Copper and Breck have fun summer activities for kids.  They open around June 15th and run through Labor Day, typically.  That's generally considered the summer tourist season.   We usually go up Memorial day for our first "summer" weekend... some years it's summer and others it's mud.   Copper is pretty much shut down, while the town of Breck is still pretty active in spite of the mountain being shut down too.

 

Here's an idea of the activities the resorts have for kids (in addition to all the other amazing more natural activities in the mountains):

http://www.coppercolorado.com/summer/events_and_activities/summer_activities/copper_summer_activities

 

I'd suggest the later you go in the summer, the better, as your wife will appreciate the cool mountain air more after baking in the summer heat longer.  :-)


I agree with you on that. I am going to try and make it late July or early August. If I luck out we will be getting through an oppressive heat wave when we leave.

post #189 of 197
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I was until wife stated I am willing to move to Denver and no where else. lol I figured I can push the mountain suburb of summit county and everything else is a waste of time and breath to discuss.

 

Has she spent any time in California?  Oregon?  Utah?  Montana?  Has she ever been to Santa Cruz, Half Moon Bay, or Sonoma?  If she had, she would want to be (almost) as FAR from the midwest as possible.  All the areas mentioned all have great outdoor activities, but some might drive you crazy.  If you don't know what it's like to live in a crowded, expensive tourist area, you'd better consider a place with a real town or city, something that Summit lacks.  The sometimes-constrained feeling of being in mountains all the time with almost no flat land around is something to consider.  OTOH, when you're *in* the mountains you get peace from them.  The "distance" issue matters wrt to how long it takes you to fly to visit your family, and that means airports and connections.  Reno is just as close to Ohio as Summit in that respect.

 

OK here are a few points:

 

1) Denver is huge with often-terrible traffic.  The airport is a long way from town.  But it has a lot to offer, and most people who live there like it a lot.  SLC is very big but not like Denver.  Easier airport.

 

2) Ogden, Bend, Boise, and Reno feel like normal places, IOW like towns and cities in the midwest, but with mountains and desert alongside.  There is a *huge* advantage to that.

 

3) The small mountain towns are much colder with long winters and are very hard to travel to/from.  Look at the lyrics to "Starwood in Aspen."

 

4) Reno has one big advantage: California!  You want natural beauty of every kind?  And sunshine?  That's your state.  Period.  Want to see paradise?  Go to Golden Gate Park, wander down.  It ends at a huge, uncrowded beach.  Yes that's because it's usually cool and foggy, but you'll never forget it.

 

Oh, and skiing in Tahoe is *far* sunnier than the others.

 

The prettiest place in Colorado is Maroon Bells; take the kids there in the summer, the first chance you get.

 

Wherever you land, you're going to have a great change with this move.  Good luck!   


Edited by whippersnapper - 1/23/15 at 2:42am
post #190 of 197
I am curious why only Denver (where my brother lives but which gives me a 25% increase in migraines to visit without regard to whether I visited him or not), gets her vote. Has she been there? To any of your other shortlisted places? Is the choice based on some facet of reality?
post #191 of 197
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@whippersnapper I agree with everything you said. I know that there are a lot of great options that might actually be a better fit.

 

@sibhusky She has not been to Denver. I have been and Denver=Cincinnati to me. However if that is where she would go I would be open for the change. 45 minutes to Loveland sounds good compared to my current 45 minutes to Perfect North slopes. Is this based on some facet of reality? Heck no. I really liked Reno and Bend but she looks at a map and says way to far lol. Remember she grew up in a close knit catholic family. I also think she feels like Denver would be driving distance to visit home for a few weeks per year. She sees her mom twice a week and sisters at least once per week. This is a big change for her. The whole idea for Denver is the comfort of being close to the city. When I ask well when how often we go downtown as a family where we live and the answer is never it still doesn't change. Honestly we go downtown to the zoo 5-6 times per year and that's it. I think I am just taking what I can get for now and see how it goes.

 

Realistically I do not think she understands what life will look like when there aren't the busy doing nothing rituals that most go through. For example how much does it really cost you to keep a job? How busy we always seem but what do we really accomplish. She really does not understand how much nicer it will be to simplify life with no need for work or pet projects and really spend life living. My game plan is to take her out and let her see the mountain areas west of Denver. If that is what she would be willing to try so be it. But while out there possibly do some side trips possibly Utah etc. I am also going to encourage a trip to Washington. Her Aunt and Uncle live out there and her mom has wanted to go visit. I think sending her out with her mom to see the cascades would be a good idea as well.

 

I think that no matter where we end up we will make a good decision. I wish she was more open to the idea of Oregon, Nevada, Washington and Idaho. They all have natural beauty and less tourists. But in the end I like Frisco as well. There are tourists but I can ride my bike everywhere in the summer and enjoy winter.

post #192 of 197
I was going to suggest Sandpoint , Idaho and ski at Schweitzer but I see you've eliminated Idaho.
You should get input from people like UGASkidawg on the realities of living in Denver and commuting to the mts. How do you feel about traffic for example? It may or may not be what you want.

Also just a general interest question, does Portlandia the tv show apply to Bend also?
post #193 of 197
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Also just a general interest question, does Portlandia the tv show apply to Bend also?

My impression of Bend is that it's a bit like the crowd that gathers near the back country gates mixed with a bunch of really good beer and lots of rich Californians.

post #194 of 197
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Remember she grew up in a close knit catholic family. I also think she feels like Denver would be driving distance to visit home for a few weeks per year. She sees her mom twice a week and sisters at least once per week. This is a big change for her.

 

That sounds so much like my in-laws.They're all in WI and IL now and they gather every weekend to harass each other. They don't even like one another but they do it because they're family and heaven forbid they try something different without one another. I'm sure they're still appalled that we moved out west because "that's where people go on vacation but they don't actually live there."

Also, I would much rather fly from Oregon than drive from Denver. That stretch across the Great American Desert is painful. It's like 12 hours of this:

 

 

 
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My impression of Bend is that it's a bit like the crowd that gathers near the back country gates mixed with a bunch of really good beer and lots of rich Californians.

 

LOL, that's a pretty fair description.

post #195 of 197
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@Posaune@Toecutter I  would take gate to back country over the gate to the 400 vertical hill I call a ski area. I am with it 100% moving to idaho, oregon, washington, montana etc. In regards to the family misery it is not all that bad with her family. Besides her dad buys all the beer I can drink lol.

 

I do agree with flying from Oregon vs driving. But the choice of staying here vs going to summit county colorado is easy. I am going to try and get her to go visit her aunt in Tacoma with my mother in law and see if that can change her mind.

post #196 of 197

Yeah man, take whatever she'll give. You're headed in the right direction. Pretty exciting, all in all.

post #197 of 197
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Originally Posted by ohioskier View Post

I liked the idea of Idaho but the wife is not on it at all. I liked bend as well but both are way to far for her. She grew up with a close knit family and is unwilling to move to west coast and idaho seems too far for her. Hell I tried Washington where she has an aunt and uncle that was a non starter.
 

 

Don't underestimate the influence of close knit family ties.

 

My wife, like yours, is from a close knit catholic family.  About 10 years ago, I was in your shoes, going through an eerily similar situation.  In fact, our family lived in Mason (not far from Fairfield) for many years.  And each weekend, as well as most Tuesday and Thursday nights, we would make the 45 minute trip to Perfect North Slopes in Lawrenceburg.  My kids were on the race team and I was a coach.  It gave us a reason to drive an hour and a half round trip for 400' of vertical.

 

We then took our first family ski trip out west, and ended up in Park City just after the 2002 Olympics wrapped-up.  I had skied Utah and Montana many times while growing up, but my wife had never been west of Indiana.  She loved Park City, and the skiing, and the mountains, and everything.  Each year after that we would take a family ski trip out west.  Then in 2007, I was offered a great job in SLC, so we decided to make the big move, and ended up in South Ogden about 15 minutes from Snowbasin.  Needless to say, I was "living my dream".

 

Now, after 7 years, I am finally realizing the toll it has taken on my wife being so far away from her family.  She has learned to adapt here, but nothing will ever take the place of being near her family. 

 

My advice would be to make sure your wife is more than just OK with something this big.  If she is not fully committed, it could become difficult for her after the newness wears off.

 

Whatever you decide, I wish you the best!!


Edited by NeedToSki - 1/24/15 at 6:15am
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