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post #31 of 52

There are ferries.

post #32 of 52

Yes. You cold take the fairy to New York, Lake Placid and ski Whiteface.

post #33 of 52
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Yes. You cold take the fairy to New York, Lake Placid and ski Whiteface.

WTF?  I didn't realize the OP was gay, but they seem to like New York, Whiteface not so much.

 

BK

post #34 of 52
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post #35 of 52
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Sugarbush and Magic would be my first two choices. Sugarbush only, if it's a low snow year, or Stowe. Ok, maybe Smuggs.

Sorry, but MRG only on a good snow year, and obviously only if there's all skiers in yer group.

 

 

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It's not like Magic has way more snowmaking than MRG. I don't get the distinction. In fact, I'd say that in a low snow year Magic would be an even worse choice than MRG.

Sorry, should have added a comma. Magic or MRG on a good snow year, Sugarbush/Stowe/Smuggs on a low snow year. Maybe not even Smuggs.

 

Make more sense now?

post #36 of 52
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Good point.

For any folks out there who are unfamiliar with the idea of ski areas that do not allow snowboards, in addition to MRG there are two places out west that are for skiers only: Alta and Deer Valley.  Taos changed their policy in 2008.

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If you're staying in Burlington, then you're "missing out" on the high cost of Stowe-village lodging and dining-out.  Stowe lift tickets aren't that out-of-line from everybody else, especially if you purchase tickets through Liftopia.  MRG is one of the cheaper places around.

Remember, the OP is driving from Washington DC.  DC to Burlington is a long drive, one that I've done in the past...  DC to the Saddleback area is "forever and a half".

Yes my family is not up for a 2 day trip. Or driving late into the night. I could barely convince them to think about northern Vermont because of the drive. They wanted okemo and killington. But I may have to look into magic a bit more! Thanks For all your help. Right now the Tenerife plan is to stay in Waterbury and check conditions to see where to go. but I will have to look into magic, and maybe take a detour if Snow cover is good. But then I would be missing out on MRG and other great powder places......
post #37 of 52
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If you're staying in Burlington, then you're "missing out" on the high cost of Stowe-village lodging and dining-out.  Stowe lift tickets aren't that out-of-line from everybody else, especially if you purchase tickets through Liftopia.  MRG is one of the cheaper places around.

Remember, the OP is driving from Washington DC.  DC to Burlington is a long drive, one that I've done in the past...  DC to the Saddleback area is "forever and a half".

Yes my family is not up for a 2 day trip. Or driving late into the night. I could barely convince them to think about northern Vermont because of the drive. They wanted okemo and killington. But I may have to look into magic a bit more! Thanks For all your help. Right now the Tenerife plan is to stay in Waterbury and check conditions to see where to go. but I will have to look into magic, and maybe take a detour if Snow cover is good. But then I would be missing out on MRG and other great powder places......

Are you intending to drive and then stay at one place the entire time?  Or is stopping on the way for a night an option?  Are you thinking of driving up I-95 or I-83 to the NY Thruway?  Reason I ask is that I did a lot of driving between NC and Lake Placid last winter, mostly avoiding I-95.  Midweek there are a few ski areas that could be a good first day.  For instance, could drive up to Lake George, ski Gore until mid-afternoon, then head to Waterbury.

post #38 of 52
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There are ferries.

Crown Point Bridge

post #39 of 52
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Yes my family is not up for a 2 day trip. Or driving late into the night. I could barely convince them to think about northern Vermont because of the drive. They wanted okemo and killington. But I may have to look into magic a bit more! Thanks For all your help. Right now the Tenerife plan is to stay in Waterbury and check conditions to see where to go. but I will have to look into magic, and maybe take a detour if Snow cover is good. But then I would be missing out on MRG and other great powder places......

 

Only if you want to stop in southern VT on the way up or back.  Seriously, I like Magic but the reason I go there is because it is closer to me than northern VT.  The skiing is bigger and better at all the areas within striking distance of Waterbury.

post #40 of 52

Stay away from 95.

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Only if you want to stop in southern VT on the way up or back.  Seriously, I like Magic but the reason I go there is because it is closer to me than northern VT.  The skiing is bigger and better at all the areas within striking distance of Waterbury.

 

Seconded.  I love Magic, go there a few times every year, but only when the bullseye of the storm is So VT.  I wouldn't plan a trip there, too much uncertainty.

post #41 of 52
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Yes my family is not up for a 2 day trip. Or driving late into the night.

No question 2 days from DC would be tough.  That does not change the advice to WAIT and choose a time on short notice when you know conditions will be reasonable.   Overall the odds favor you taking more time and basing in Waterbury than doing a shorter trip to a closer location farther south.

post #42 of 52
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That does not change the advice to WAIT and choose a time on short notice when you know conditions will be reasonable.  

 

 

Hard to coordinate a larger group on short notice, though.  Very hard.

post #43 of 52

I don't think you'll find much of a price difference for accomodations between staying in Waterbury or Burlington as opposed to staying at one of the many hotels/motels located in & around Stowe. Many of them are quite competively priced. 

post #44 of 52

A lot of good insight here.

 

Stowe: bring $$$. A nice place, but a big price and vibe I don't like.

 

Jay is fantastic for the trees. As others have said, their groomers are unimpressive. You've got to love getting lost off trail, and then it is an amazing experience on a powder day.

 

MRG: Ski it if you can, and a whole lot of the time you can't. You really have to catch it on the right day.

 

Why is nobody talking about Burke? It is probably my favorite place in Vermont.

post #45 of 52

Also, the Southern and Central resorts of VT are 1. Closer and 2. Oftentimes Just as good (especially when you get those south tracking storms, I've had some great days here).  Actually, Mount Snow is a pretty good place for DC drive-tripper with a pretty developed resort scene, one of the best integrated Park systems in the East, plenty of diverse terrain and usually decent (east coast) condition.  Trees, Moguls, Long Groomers, Killer Park and Pipe area (Honestly, It's really impressive and I don't usually go for that kin d of thing), Sushi, outdoor pool at the Hotel, good ticket presence on Liftopia, actually, the more I think about it, You ought to consider saving your self 2 hours of driving (each way).  

 

I used to hate the Mt. Snow Vibe, but since the new owners came in a few years ago, they've been doing the busy resort thing right.  Yep, it's busy on the weekends, as is every decent sized resort in VT (but the worst wait pin the planet is the Single Chai at MRG on a snowy weekend).  Nice thing about Mount Snow, is they have some lifts you can park on and ski quality terrain with a small wait (once you clear the base area bunching….thought that covered six when running with the other two high speed quads at the bottom moves people pretty fast).

post #46 of 52
Driving from Delaware I wanted Stowe but could only get my big group to drive to Mt Snow last year end on Feb. Had a great time! Some nice steeps for the young chargers, groomers for relaxing, nice ungroomed runs to challenge me. I don't park but I skiied through to watch my son. Incredible! The outdoor sauna was nice as well.
post #47 of 52

Mad River Glen is not a place I would take a family of "intermediate ability." If you want a nice mix of tree skiing, groomers, and other challenging terrain, I don't think you can go wrong with Sugarbush.

post #48 of 52

If you do go to Sugarbush, say hi to The Mall and Paradise for me. Sooo much fun with some new snow!

 

One thing I miss since moving to CO from VT are those long sustained pitches of the 'Bush. Very rarely got bored skiing there, and something for everyone.

post #49 of 52

The farther south you're considering, the more important it is to WAIT until last minute before booking.  Sometimes the rain/snow line is by latitude/distance from the coast.  "My family" is an ambiguous description in terms of size of group.  The OP will have to tell us if the size is small enough for the schedule to be flexible. 

post #50 of 52
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Sometimes the rain/snow line is by latitude/distance from the coast.

 

Right. It's very typical to have the line run SW - NE, with almost all of Vermont in the snow zone, but only the top third of NH and a stripe of Maine north of a line that roughly parallels Rt. 2.

post #51 of 52

been skiing VT for 30+ years and have skied all these resorts many, many, times.  All are great.  Jay has great trees and gets "western level" snow.(300+ inches/yr)  Stowe is absolutely classic New England mtn with great terrain and village.  MRG is a true time-warp.  No snowmaking, no grooming, real low key with great terrain, but not for everyone.  

 

I ski 50+ days per season 1/2 in Vt 1/2 out west and one of my favorite trips is:  drive to Jay, stay overnight, ski Jay, after skiing drive 1 hour south to Stowe, stay, ski, drive to Sugarbush(another great, great mountain), stay, ski, drive 1 hour south to Killington. Driving is all on route 100 which has been named one of Americas most scenic highways many times.   Lots of country Inns along the way.   Sugarbush and MRG are in the same valley so you can choose either one, or stay couple days and ski both.  This trip has you doing biggest drive 1st to get to Jay, work south, with a shorter drive time home. BTW, Killington is a great mountain with lots of varied terrain, and skiing it on a weekday can be great.

 

VT rocks!  Enjoy.

post #52 of 52

Did I miss the part where you said how old your kids are?

 

My vote is Sugarbush/MRG, and stay in Warren/Waitsfield.

 

If you are driving that dang far to ski, and you have kids with you, why on earth would you want to drive more than 20 minutes to get to a lift?

On a winter day, unless you have 4wd and can come over the back pass, and know the way, Burlington to SB is really close to an hour and don't let anyone tell you otherwise.

 

First chair at Lincoln and Ellen is 8:00. Your kids willing to get up at 6:30?

 

Check out the Powerhound Condos at the base of the SB access road. Sleep 4 very comfortably for somewhere around $200 a night, with a kitchen area. There are also tons of other accommodations avail. Name your price.

 

If your kids are old enough, there's the Mad Bus, free transport all over the Valley floor and up the mountain and over to Ellen.

 

And others may argue (and probably will...) but unless your intermediate skiers are intermediate on every single kind of condition, MRG may be above their pay grade.

 

A great place, but a challenge if you aren't a really strong intermediate willing to work for the run. Some intermediates take joy in trails that require technical skills, some intermediates would prefer to have a greater "fun" factor. 

 

Sugarbush has every kind of terrain you can think of, and experts usually end up at Castlerock. And there's plenty of variety on the intermediate trails, from wide-open trails like Spring Fling to switchy Jester. There are beginner trees, and there's Slidebrook.

 

Sugarbush is 15 minutes from MRG, so if the conditions are great, it's an easy hop over.

 

There is little to no nightlife at Sugarbush, so if you're looking for a go-go apres, not really going to find that in Warren/Waitsfield.

 

Nice little restaurants, funky atmosphere, not hideously expensive.

 

I think you can do a 3 or 4 day flex pass, so if conditions are great at MRG, you can pop over.

 

Not like Stowe is bad, or anything. I admit I'm partial to Sugarbush, because everyone in my family has somewhere on the mountain they love.

 

Cheers, and maybe see you there!

 

Allison

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