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Like to make a suggestion for a Clydesdale Forum

post #1 of 21
Thread Starter 

Hello,

 

I bought my first mountain bike this year and spent a lot of time researching on MTBR forums. They have a"Clydesdale" forum which I loved and found a heck of a lot of useful info. I think the same things apply for skiers, for the most part. We deal with this well on this site by stating your physical size, but for guys over 200 lbs, and mostly over 6 feet, it would be nice to have our own ski gear discussion to compare notes on what skis work for us and what equipment stands up to the stress we put on them. I personally am 6'4" and 250 lbs. My ideal weight is about 225, so I will always be a Clyde and wouldn't be offended at all by "our" own forum. It would supplement the ski gear discussion forum.

 

 

Scott B.

post #2 of 21

Thanks, but we have found the more sub-forums we have the more complicated it makes things. People are never sure where to post and things get missed as well, so we try to stick with a more is less approach. 

post #3 of 21
We'd have to have a pony forum to compensate.
post #4 of 21
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Originally Posted by bttocs View Post
 

Hello,

 

I bought my first mountain bike this year and spent a lot of time researching on MTBR forums. They have a"Clydesdale" forum which I loved and found a heck of a lot of useful info. I think the same things apply for skiers, for the most part. We deal with this well on this site by stating your physical size, but for guys over 200 lbs, and mostly over 6 feet, it would be nice to have our own ski gear discussion to compare notes on what skis work for us and what equipment stands up to the stress we put on them. I personally am 6'4" and 250 lbs. My ideal weight is about 225, so I will always be a Clyde and wouldn't be offended at all by "our" own forum. It would supplement the ski gear discussion forum.

 

 

Scott B.


I'm another of the 200+ contingent.  Like bttocs, I've occasionally found the Clydesdale bike forums a useful guide on choices of equipment to seek out or avoid.

 

One thing that seems to be different about skis, though, is that the pressure you put on skis depends greatly on how and where you ski, as well as what you weigh.  And from what I've read here, there are multiple dimensions to how to choose a ski to handle that pressure.  So, two people at very different weights may be looking at the same ski, for any number of reasons (aggressiveness, where they ski, personal preference for the "feel" of the ski, etc.)

 

So despite being in the target demographic for a forum like this, I'm not very enthusiastic about it. I'm always going to be looking in the general gear forum as well, so why not just leave everything in one place?   I will admit, though, to not paying too much attention to any review written by someone under, say, 160 lbs...

post #5 of 21
And in my experience from basketball and running, you'd just encourage the "height challenged" to take potshots at us! Not that I didn't deserve it sometimes. smile.gif)
post #6 of 21
One of the main rationales for Clydesdale discussions in the bike world is that Clydes are always breaking stuff. They need different gear, not just different sizes of gear. E.g., 36-spoke wheels. I don't sense that the same situation applies here.

Meanwhile I happened to notice that four of the six guys who review skis on skis.com are over 200lbs.And the other two were like 170 or something. Semi useless to me at 135. So there are two ends to the spectrum.
post #7 of 21
Yes, but the majority of folks on this site that discuss gear and technique seem to be under 200 lb and 6 ft. At 6'7" and 230 lb, I'm not good enough for GS skis, but I don't see anyone but Rossignol catering to my (our) needs. Suggestions?
post #8 of 21
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Originally Posted by XLTL View Post

Yes, but the majority of folks on this site that discuss gear and technique seem to be under 200 lb and 6 ft. At 6'7" and 230 lb, I'm not good enough for GS skis, but I don't see anyone but Rossignol catering to my (our) needs. Suggestions?


Philpug, Sierra Jim, and several other folks (Whiteroom, but I haven't seen a post from him recently) are very good at tailoring their recommendations to take into account physiques that are a couple of standard deviations away from average.   For example, look for the thread "Biggest, burliest 90-100 mm allmountain ski?" in the Ski Gear forum (and yes, I should figure out how to link that rather than just quote it...).

 

Ask a specific question and provide enough information, you can get very good suggestions from people who really do seem to know what they're talking about (not that that means they always agree with each other, of course...).

 

 
post #9 of 21
I have been following that thread, but they're not the skis I think I need as I progress. And from reading several older threads I don't doubt the ability of the folks you mentioned. I'll give this more serious thought as fall sets in and I can plan some demo days. Just thought the OP had an interesting idea.
post #10 of 21
Thread Starter 

When my suggestion was first shot down, I thought "OK' don't make it a "sub-forum", make it a main forum. The MTB site has it as one of their main forums and it gets pretty good traffic. Based on my general observations at NE ski slopes, there would be a fair number of candidates for it  ( I mean bigger guys, not fat a**s).  I will agree that for mountain bikes, there are many components that are replaceable, the Clydes forum really helped to filter out what works for a big guy (like a new bike saddle for instance).  For skiing, not so much, just the skis, bindings, and boots. Although to make a point, when I go to buy a new helmet, I must have tried on about 30-50 and couldn't find one that fit comfortably (yes I have a big head, my wife will tell you in more ways than one). By chance I found a certain model of a giro helmet that came in XL or XXL and it fit just right. It was a grey color, the only color available. At least my wife won't have to change her nick name for me "Buzz"  (Light Year).

post #11 of 21
Thread Starter 

qcanoe makes a good point. A clyde forum is only useful to other clyde's. The MTBR forum doesn't get any non clyde posts from what I can see, positive or negative. About the only thing useful to a non-clyde is to get a sense of how heavy duty a piece of gear is. If it can stand up to use by a 200+ lb'r, it will last a long time for a light weight person. In my own personal experience, I have only broken a small number of skis and bindings (well, more bindings than skis), but I felt like I could destroy a heck of a lot of skis if I skied them hard over some serious moguls. All skis break down over time, but I have owned some older foam core models that the break down from a single day of mogul skiing was noticeable. They didn't last me a season before they became limp noodles. I learned my lesson that wood core is the only way to go for me (especially with metal).

post #12 of 21
Yes but different terrain and conditions require different skis, which can expand the scope of the discussion. I ski mainly in PA with a trip to VT so need hard snow skis, not powder skis. Most +190 cm skis are powder oriented and too wide under foot. Where and what do you guys ski?
post #13 of 21
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Originally Posted by XLTL View Post

Yes but different terrain and conditions require different skis, which can expand the scope of the discussion. I ski mainly in PA with a trip to VT so need hard snow skis, not powder skis. Most +190 cm skis are powder oriented and too wide under foot. Where and what do you guys ski?


That's a pretty good example of a specific enough question to post in the Gear forum:  wanted:  hard-snow oriented ski for 6' 7", 230 lbs, skill level??.  There's a specific set of about 5 questions that you can either answer up front, or someone will point you at them to fill in.

 

To answer your question, I ski in MN (small hills, "packed powder" that anyone out west would call ice), and not enough of the time in MT (bigger hills, softer snow), skiing almost entirely on-piste (because that's what we have), level 6-ish, more easy-going than aggressive, most of the time.  I'm a little smaller:  6", 215-220 lbs depending on the season.

 

My current hard-snow, small hill ski is the Atomic Blackeye Ti, 174, which I think has probably gotten too short as I've gotten better, looking to size up.   Soft-snow, big(ger) hill ski is the 4FRNT Cody, 186 (102 waist, tip and tail rocker).  No powder ski, 'cause when would I use it?

 

I won't presume to make suggestions for you.  Too many other people on this board can provide much better advice.  But I'd be very surprised if there wasn't something that suited your needs.

post #14 of 21
Thread Starter 

XLTL   I suggest you invest $20 for a subscription to Real Skiers site and they will list all the top rated (by them) skis in each category. They list all the available lengths, so you can cull their list for the length you  are interested in. Then its time to read more personal reviews on this site and others to get more opinions on each model and a feel for the characteristics of each ski. I personally have found Real Skiers evaluations to be very accurate (maybe because their founder is a borderline Clyde, tall anyway). A lot of people on this site have different views from Real Skiers, but that is what makes this site so good, diversity.

 

I personally am an expert skier and I use race stock slalom and gs skis as my hard snow skis. I have skied a Blizzard Brahma which comes in 188 which I would recommend as a very good all around ski for a big guy. If you want something a little narrower, they are coming out with a 78mm model this year. If you want more intermediate focused ski, the Kastle MX 70 comes in 188 I believe. Another suggestion is you don't need 190 cm + skis, you can go a little shorter if you want (185 cm). If you get a little more ski than you are ready for, you can compensate to some degree by getting it a little shorter (like in 186 instead of 190+)  Your weight is not that high, that is more important than your height.For a 190 length, look at Salomon Enduro XT 800

 

Also, as mentioned above, there are some really knowledgeable ski shop people that really know their stuff, they may not all be clydes, but they are great.

 

Bttocs


Edited by bttocs - 8/25/14 at 5:57pm
post #15 of 21
Thanks SO and bttocs. I appreciate those suggestions. My wife grew up skiing in WI and the UP. I've only been skiing 5 years, but I love it and the challenge to get better!

I currently use Rossi Experience 83 at 184, so pretty long; the shop talked me out of the 88s at 186 at that time. I've not seen too many hard snow skis that are much longer. It was suggested recently (not here) that I need a >190 ski. I have no idea where I would rate on a numerical scale. I'll just say mid intermediate (blues/blacks) and not that aggressive, but I can enjoy speed on a good snow day.

I don't have experience with too many other skis, so I want to demo this season to expand my knowledge base. I read somewhere on Epic Ski that's the best way!
post #16 of 21

I'll definitely second the recommendation to drop the $20 on the Real Skiers site.  Their reviews may not point you at exactly the ski you want, but it's a very good way to cut the list down to a manageable size.

post #17 of 21

Dawned on me that having a Tag for info useful for big men can help a bit.  A Topic tag creates a page that is a list of the tagged threads.  Tags must be added manually.  Any help to add the "Clydesdale ski gear" tag to relevant useful threads will be much appreciated.  Tags can be added after the fact.  Sometimes it's better to wait until it's clear there are useful replies to the initial question.

 

To add a tag:

1) click in the box that says "find a tag" under Topics Discussed in the right hand column under Featured Stories.

2) start typing "clydesdale"

3) when you see the tag in the drop down list, click on "+" 

4) look afterwards to check that Clydesdale ski gear shows up as a Topic

 

Should look like this once the tag has been added:

 

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If you change your mind, hover over the tag, then click on the "X" and then click on "YES".

 

Can tag any relevant thread, not just those about skis.  For instance, if there is a good discussion about gloves for big men that could be worth tagging.

post #18 of 21

I think the Clydesdale tag has worked out well.  @bttocs: thanks for bringing up the subject as a Site Suggestion.

 

Thanks if you added it to a thread last season.  There are 45 threads on the list so far.  Certainly makes it easier to find a relevant thread to help out a newbie Clyde.

 

Remember that Tags must be added manually.  Any help to add the "Clydesdale ski gear" tag to relevant useful threads is much appreciated.  Tags can be added after the fact.  Sometimes it's better to wait until there are useful replies to the initial question.  A Tag can also be deleted from a thread that turns out to be a dud.

 

To add a tag:

1) click in the box that says "find a tag" under Topics Discussed in the right hand column under Featured Stories.

2) start typing "clydesdale"

3) when you see the tag in the drop down list, click on "+" 

4) look afterwards to check that Clydesdale ski gear shows up as a Topic

 

Should look like this once the tag has been added:

 

ov

 

 

If you change your mind or got the wrong tag by mistake, hover over the tag you want to delete, click on the "X" and then click on "YES" to remove the tag.

 

Can tag any relevant thread, not just those about skis.  For instance, if there is a good discussion about gloves or ski pants for big men that could be worth tagging

post #19 of 21
I've tagged a few threads but you often beat me to it!
post #20 of 21
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Originally Posted by XLTL View Post

I've tagged a few threads but you often beat me to it!


Yeah, I spent way too much time reading threads.  Mostly look at threads started by a newbie.  Been number of new Clydes in the past year.

 

Appreciate the help!

post #21 of 21

BUMP for 2016-17

 

A reminder that for big guys there is a Clydesdale Ski Gear tag that can make it easier to find relevant threads.

 

Here's an example of suggestions for a Clyde who is 6'2", 275 lbs:

 

http://www.epicski.com/t/148817/former-football-player-62-275-and-loves-to-ski-gear-ski-suggestions

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