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Which Kästles for All-Mountain skiing in Europe?

post #1 of 23
Thread Starter 

Hi!

I have read all tests and discussions I can find on the net, and start to go crazy.

Without demoing its almost impossible to compare different modells and brands.

About me, I'm 5'9" 145lbs (176cm 66kg), 39 years old and have been skiing since I was 5.

I really like to attack the pists as much as spend some time off-piste, always keeping an eye out for some soft snow when I'm in a resort.

My list consists of the following,

MX83 183

FX84 176

MX88 178

FX94 176

 

Please help me come to a decision so I can put the order in and go on with my life (also reading up on windsurfing gear, which is also a jungle :)

 

/Evert

post #2 of 23
MX88
post #3 of 23
Depends, I'd be on the MX98.
post #4 of 23
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Originally Posted by SHREDHEAD View Post

Depends, I'd be on the MX98.

 



Your MX108s wore out, eh?
post #5 of 23
No, I still love them. But they might be a little big for a smaller, harder mountain.
post #6 of 23
At 66kg, I would not have put you on a 183cm MX 83. 173 seems like a more likely fit. The 183 is the longest length they make in that model. If you're on the 183, what is the 100kg guy supposed to be on? And what is the 173 for?
post #7 of 23

Having skied or owned all the skis on your list, and taking your stated goals into account, I'd go for the FX94. FX 84 a very close second. The MX83 or 88 are not good choices for someone your size who wants to go off-piste, and the lengths are unrealistic unless you raced into high school or beyond and mainly want to rip GS turns. (To give you a sense of this, I owned the 88's in 178, and they were on the long-ish side in bumps, on smaller slopes, or in tight places such as trees; I'm 6', 165, do some master's racing, have been skiing since I was 3.) As I recall, europe does get some bumps.

 

The FX84 is a sweet ski, would be better on the groomers and in bumps than the FX94, but not quite as good in soft snow. Both are now built more like the MX series than before, with two sheets of .4 mm titanal, and early rise, so call them MX lights...

post #8 of 23
Thread Starter 

Having read this makes me also lean towards the FX94:

http://www.theskidiva.com/forums/index.php?threads/kastle-bmx98-mx88-fx84-fx94.17863/

 

/Evert

post #9 of 23
Thread Starter 

If I go for the FX94, which bindings would I benefit from the most (adding all the available ones in the kit)?

Atomic FFG 10             
Atomic STH2 WTR 16   
Atomic Tracker 13        
Atomic Tracker 16        
Dynafit TLT Radical FT  
Dynafit TLT Radical ST  
Fischer Adrenalin 13     
Fischer Adrenalin 16     
Fischer Ambition 12 Tour
Fischer Attack 13        
Fischer Attack 16        
Look Pivot 14            
Look Pivot 18            
Look XM 13            
Marker Baron 13 EPF
Marker Duke 16 EPF
Marker F10 Tour       
Marker F12 Tour        
Marker F12 Tour EPF
Marker Free Ten       
Marker Griffon 13 Black Teal    
Marker Griffon 13 White Red    
Marker Griffon Schizo 13    
Marker Jester 16        
Marker Jester Pro 18  
Marker Jester Schizo 16
Marker Lord 14 S.P.     
Marker Squire 11 Green Blue  
Marker Squire 11 White Black
Marker Squire 11 Yellow    
Marker Squire Schizo 11   
Rossignol Axium 110        
Rossignol FKS 140       
Salomon Guardian 13 WTR
Salomon Guardian 16 WTR
Salomon STH2 WTR 13    
Salomon STH2 WTR 16    
Salomon Z10            

post #10 of 23

Nothing personal, but this list is silly. Do you expect a detailed rundown on each binding? Is this some kind of humor, as in, "all these choices, what do I do?" Also, not sure what "in the kit" means. FX94's are not sold with bindings, although the place you purchase them may suggest/push certain ones. 

 

All of these are good bindings. They can be divided into three groups, Tech, AT and Alpine. For what you describe, a tech binding is inappropriate; it's for touring. You plan to spend a fair amount of time on groomers. So AT or Alpine. Do your homework. Decide whether you want to actually skin when you go off-piste. If yes, then the AT's. Plenty to chose from; suggest Googling the reviews. If you don't plan to skin, more about hiking a bit, then all the Alpine are about equally good, more personal preference. Pick on price. You will want something with a DIN of 12 to 14, so that cuts out a number.

 

AT's are not as mechanically effective on groomers as alpine bindings, and they'll wear out sooner. So if you get an AT binding because you think you may skin at some point, you're just joining the ranks of most AT users, who will never use a skin, but think it's cool to have AT's. And the binding makers chuckle all the way to the bank. If you have already invested in backcountry gear, and plan to take a safety course in October, and know some folks who what to go off-piste with you, then AT's make sense. 

 

Out. 

post #11 of 23
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by beyond View Post
 

Nothing personal, but this list is silly. Do you expect a detailed rundown on each binding? Is this some kind of humor, as in, "all these choices, what do I do?" Also, not sure what "in the kit" means. FX94's are not sold with bindings, although the place you purchase them may suggest/push certain ones. 

 

All of these are good bindings. They can be divided into three groups, Tech, AT and Alpine. For what you describe, a tech binding is inappropriate; it's for touring. You plan to spend a fair amount of time on groomers. So AT or Alpine. Do your homework. Decide whether you want to actually skin when you go off-piste. If yes, then the AT's. Plenty to chose from; suggest Googling the reviews. If you don't plan to skin, more about hiking a bit, then all the Alpine are about equally good, more personal preference. Pick on price. You will want something with a DIN of 12 to 14, so that cuts out a number.

 

AT's are not as mechanically effective on groomers as alpine bindings, and they'll wear out sooner. So if you get an AT binding because you think you may skin at some point, you're just joining the ranks of most AT users, who will never use a skin, but think it's cool to have AT's. And the binding makers chuckle all the way to the bank. If you have already invested in backcountry gear, and plan to take a safety course in October, and know some folks who what to go off-piste with you, then AT's make sense. 

 

Out. 


I appreciate your time and input! Of course this istn't some kind of joke. I appearantly want Alpine bindings, but how do i categorize them?

/Regards Evert

post #12 of 23

Atomic FFG 10             
Atomic STH2 WTR 16   
Atomic Tracker 13        
Atomic Tracker 16        

Dynafit TLT Radical FT  
Dynafit TLT Radical ST  

Fischer Adrenalin 13     
Fischer Adrenalin 16     
Fischer Ambition 12 Tour
Fischer Attack 13        

Fischer Attack 16        
Look Pivot 14            
Look Pivot 18            

Look XM 13            
Marker Baron 13 EPF
Marker Duke 16 EPF
Marker F10 Tour       
Marker F12 Tour        
Marker F12 Tour EPF
Marker Free Ten       

Marker Griffon 13 Black Teal    
Marker Griffon 13 White Red    
Marker Griffon Schizo 13    
Marker Jester 16        
Marker Jester Pro 18  
Marker Jester Schizo 16
Marker Lord 14 S.P.     

Marker Squire 11 Green Blue  
Marker Squire 11 White Black
Marker Squire 11 Yellow    
Marker Squire Schizo 11   
Rossignol Axium 110        
Rossignol FKS 140       
Salomon Guardian 13 WTR
Salomon Guardian 16 WTR

Salomon STH2 WTR 13    
Salomon STH2 WTR 16    
Salomon Z10            

 

Well, the Duke, Baron, Tracker, Guardian, Dynafits, and the Marker Tour bindings are all for alpine touring, so they're out. I also think that anything over DIN 13 is too heavy, expensive and you really don't need is at your size. That means that any model with a number over 13 in it is out also. Anything under DIN 10 is too light, I think. Schizo-versions can be helpful if you're uncertain or wanting to be able to adjust mounting position.

 

I would go for the Marker Griffon (light, stable, just love it on my Hell&Backs) or the Salomon STH2 WTR13 (just bought it for my 2014 Atomic Automatics). Most others I have no experience with.

post #13 of 23
Thread Starter 

Thanks again! I will take a good look at the shorter list!


Edited by Evert Kjellgren - 8/17/14 at 1:13am
post #14 of 23
Quote:
Originally Posted by Evert Kjellgren View Post
 

Thanks again! I will take a good look at the shorter list!

Evert, looking at your name, I would assume that you are Norwegian....

 

Where are you planning on getting this stuff from? Not many stores here carry what you are looking for...or? 

post #15 of 23
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by lilledonmarco View Post
 

Evert, looking at your name, I would assume that you are Norwegian....

 

Where are you planning on getting this stuff from? Not many stores here carry what you are looking for...or? 


Im from Sweden, so almost right.

What "assembling point" should i select, Team Center“ (recommendation of the manufacturer) or „Freeride“ (recommendation of the manufacturer)?

post #16 of 23
Thread Starter 

Order complete: Kästle FX94 Chris Davenport 2014 + Bindung, 176 | Marker Griffon 13 Black Teal 2014 inkl. Stopper , Binding mounted  Assembling points Team Center (Standard)

post #17 of 23

You are going to love those skis.

post #18 of 23
Thread Starter 
I shure hope so! smile.gif
post #19 of 23
Thread Starter 
Black bindings were sold out so I had to settle on the white ones. Will update with pictures.
post #20 of 23

White is good.

You may need something else for certain days...

post #21 of 23
Thread Starter 

I recieved the skies last week, but when I tried my boots they didnt fit. The bindings are too close although I specified the length of my boots (317mm). Is there anyway to adjust this by myself on the Marker Griffons?

 

/Regards Evert

post #22 of 23
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Evert Kjellgren View Post
 

I recieved the skies last week, but when I tried my boots they didnt fit. The bindings are too close although I specified the length of my boots (317mm). Is there anyway to adjust this by myself on the Marker Griffons?

 

/Regards Evert


Just solved it, sorry for that.

Now its just a matter of tuning the forward preassure!

post #23 of 23
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Evert Kjellgren View Post
 


Just solved it, sorry for that.

Now its just a matter of tuning the forward preassure!

Thanks to this guide Im now all done:

http://theskimonster.com/blog/posts/how-to-adjust-your-marker-ski-bindings/

 

/Evert

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