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post #31 of 57

Looks like the Dukes need to trade in that Viper they just bought.

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Looks like the Dukes need to trade in that Viper they just bought.

 

Seriously. Actually Dodge had to know at the time they were filming that commercial that this was in the works…This should have been the car in that ad. 

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...I saw the Challenger Hellcat at the Barrett-Jackson auction and there was rumor of a Charger Hellcat in the pipelines and here it is. With 707 horsepower..let me say that again...seven HUNDRED and seven horsepower..makes the Charger Hellcat the most powerful production sedan in the world. Dodge...not Mercedes...not Porsche...not Bentley..Dodge and while the price has not been announced, expect it to be between a measly $60-70K (based on the Challenger being offered for $59,9K). We are talking 0-100-0 times of 13 seconds...world class numbers...on street tires. Eleven second quarter mile times...on street tires. A top speed of 204MPH...on...well...doesn't matter but these figures are staggering and twice to three times the expected price. Talk about your future classics. ...

 

 

Damn, what a monster. I work at GM so I hope its times at the 'Ring don't measure up, but in any case this is a beast.

 

Power numbers were reported differently back in the day, the inlet and exhaust restricions on dyno could be lower than in-vehicle, no accessory drive, they'd optimise fuel and spark for each test point in a way that couldn't be done in vehicle due to controls limitations, that kind of thing. So a lot of times you'd get a lot less on the street than the claimed number, but for the performance stuff they might under-rate to get around insurance costs, etc. About 20 years ago the SAE changed the test spec so now you have to run as installed in vehicle.

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 but I still prefered my 350 Yamaha for nimbleness and quick acceleration.

 

 

Was that a 2 stroke street bike?  I had a '79 Yamaha RD 400 that was nasty fast, and put out a huge blue cloud.  Last of the street 2 strokes, as I recall.

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Was that a 2 stroke street bike?  I had a '79 Yamaha RD 400 that was nasty fast, and put out a huge blue cloud.  Last of the street 2 strokes, as I recall.

 

It surely was.  The 350 was the liquid cooled successor to the 400 that you had.  I had the RZ500 which was a v-4 2-stroke.  Kind of a ridiculous bike, but it was unique!  :-)  I've ridden the 350 a bunch of times..kinda old school now, but bang for the buck you can't beat it! 

post #36 of 57

I had a Kawasaki S2 350...3 cyl 2 stroke. :)   Could run with an RD400.  Would have liked :) the RZ500.

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I had a Kawasaki S2 350...3 cyl 2 stroke. :)   Could run with an RD400.  Would have liked :) the RZ500.

 

 

I did a track day where a vintage club was sharing the day with us.  And there was a Kawi KH400 out there with no cans on his aftermarket expansion pipes..it was a vintage race bike..and I'm running him down up the back straight at Mosport..and I'm literally getting splats of 2-stroke oil on my visor from his exhaust!  Haha!  Not exactly eco-friendly!  But what a glorious sound!  I loved that bike..giant chain saw.  :-)  Shook my innards with all that noise!

post #38 of 57

Those Kawi triple-deuces were something else. I remember some guy in Miami had an H2 with big jugs, big back sprocket, extended swingarm, running nitrous and (supposedly) a good dose of nitro (the exhaust did kinda take your breath away). At the midnight nationals he went up against a fair number of fast dragstrip bikes, turbo/nitous 1000's and such, and drug 'em all really bad.

 

The only bike that to me has a better sound is the CBX.

post #39 of 57

One of my favourite bike noises..  Honda RC166..  6 cylinders, 4-stroke, 250cc's..amazing!

 

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Was that a 2 stroke street bike?  I had a '79 Yamaha RD 400 that was nasty fast, and put out a huge blue cloud.  Last of the street 2 strokes, as I recall.

 

Nope, last of the air cooled street 2-strokes. Yammie had the RZ350 (2 cyl) and RZ500(4 cyl), Honda had the NS400R (3 cyl) to name a few. Those stopped in the mid 80's but continued on in Canada and other places into the early 90's I believe.

 

I've got the first and last Yammies. A '73 RD350 and a '85 RZ500.

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Technically it was a W4 (twin cranks).

 

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Nope, last of the air cooled street 2-strokes. Yammie had the RZ350 (2 cyl) and RZ500(4 cyl), Honda had the NS400R (3 cyl) to name a few. Those stopped in the mid 80's but continued on in Canada and other places into the early 90's I believe.

 

I've got the first and last Yammies. A '73 RD350 and a '85 RZ500.


 I think the RZ350 was last on sale here in 1991 if I remember correctly.  Some people still have crate bikes that they snapped up before they all disappeared.  Parts are getting hard to find for some things.  I liked the Suzuki RG500 Gamma..that was a better bike than the RZ I think.  Still cool bikes.  I had nightmares of my RZ500 needing a rebuild..I think the seal kit cost more than the bike was worth!  :-)  I always thought someone had dropped a handful of nuts and washers into the crankcase..sounded like it was about to expire at any moment.. :dunno

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Woulds you like the motorcycle talk moved to it's own thread?

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Woulds you like the motorcycle talk moved to it's own thread?

 

We've already got one!

 

http://www.epicski.com/t/84305/the-moto-thread

 

Sorry Philpug, it's just that they're more fun than cars :D

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We've already got one!

 

http://www.epicski.com/t/84305/the-moto-thread

 

Sorry Philpug, it's just that they're more fun than cars :D


Yes they are

 

post #46 of 57

I want one (of those chargers that is)!

 

I recall back in the day Kawasaki had a quick three cylinder 750 two stroke, that could be made into a 4 cylinder 1000 cc monster with a little ingenuity.

post #47 of 57

Late to the party, but I want the (sadly) discontinued Magnum wagon version.

 

HELLCATAWAGON!

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Late to the party, but I want the (sadly) discontinued Magnum wagon version.

 

HELLCATAWAGON!


It already exists:D  - MB E63 AMG S 4MATIC - 577 horsepower/590 torque for only $102,370.

http://www.mbusa.com/mercedes/vehicles/model/class-E/model-E63SP

post #49 of 57

Have a deposit on one, what ski racks should I get?

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Late to the party, but I want the (sadly) discontinued Magnum wagon version.

 

HELLCATAWAGON!


It already exists:D  - MB E63 AMG S 4MATIC - 577 horsepower/590 torque for only $102,370.

http://www.mbusa.com/mercedes/vehicles/model/class-E/model-E63SP

 

A customer of ours just stopped by with one..what a coincidence...he said there were only 50 imported this year. he has quite the stable of car, he was here last week with his Lexus LFA. 

post #51 of 57

Sad thing is that in 1970 you could buy a Super Bee for about 20% of the average yearly wage.  That would be like buying a Super Bee today for $10,000.   Car prices, relative to the average wage have increased five fold.

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Sad thing is that in 1970 you could buy a Super Bee for about 20% of the average yearly wage.  That would be like buying a Super Bee today for $10,000.   Car prices, relative to the average wage have increased five fold.

I bought my first new car, a '73 Chevelle (stealth SS) for $4200 on $4.21 an hour, part time.

 

One night at Bandimere Speedway, my 350 got paired up with a 383 Charger. I figured I was doomed, but I caught him sleeping at the light. I was way ahead before he found the gas pedal. He was gaining on me all the way, but I went through the traps with a car length on him. 

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Regardless of how sick this car is on the track and strip I just can't ever be fully behind a FOUR DOOR sports car or muscle car.  It's just.... plain.... wrong...  

 

And that is presumably why Dodge came out with both a Challenger and a Charger Hellcat.

 

Personally, I'd rather have something with half as many horses and a lot more nimbleness.

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Regardless of how sick this car is on the track and strip I just can't ever be fully behind a FOUR DOOR sports car or muscle car.  It's just.... plain.... wrong...  

 

And that is presumably why Dodge came out with both a Challenger and a Charger Hellcat.

 

Personally, I'd rather have something with half as many horses and a lot more nimbleness.

|How about something like this?

post #55 of 57

^^^How nimble is the stopping distance of that?

post #56 of 57

More wheels and seats, but that's getting closer.

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Have a deposit on one, what ski racks should I get?

 

No reason to get your skis dirty in a rack.  According to the Benz website roof racks and rooftop boxes are available.

 

http://www.mbusa.com/mercedes/accessory/title-Mercedes_Benz_Roof_Boxes/model-E63SP/class-E/id-OEMPartNo:A0008401662

 

Also, take a look at other makes, there are some nice ones being made.  I would do a non MB box on MB rack.

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