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My favorite ski of all time was the Salomon Pocket Rocket- what now?

post #1 of 24
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My favorite ski of all time was the Salomon Pocket Rocket. I know it's been a while but for me- nothing was more fun all over the mountain. Both on the East (where I mostly ski) and out West. What ski do you think could would compare favorably?? Could the new 2015 Salomon Rocker2 100 do it? Would 100 underfoot be too wide for the East?

post #2 of 24

The Blue Noodle!  Yeah, that was a fun ski.  You're talking a few years since the Pocket Rocket's heyday, so there are plenty of contenders out there with better technology.  Have you skied anything since?

 

Also, we need more info - height, weight, ability, where you ski most - before we can (mis)direct you to a new ride.  Welcome to Epicski.

post #3 of 24

^^^ This. There are several skis out there that may fit your bill, including some by Salomon/Atomic

post #4 of 24

I know someone who went from Pocket Rocket to Nordica Soul Rider and was very happy about it.

 

(He's kinda always happy, but...)

post #5 of 24
Pocket Rockets were fun playful skis, until all the pop got skied out of the foam core- which unless you use them 2 times a year has happened given the age.

Look for a playful wood core 5 point ski. Rossi Smash 7 or Sin 7 perhaps?
post #6 of 24

Blizzard "the one" or Nordica Soul rider. 

post #7 of 24
Thread Starter 
Here's some more of my information. I'm 5'8" and weigh 160lbs. I ski primarily on the east at New England resorts. I'm on the mountain about 10-12 days a year. I'm a strong skier that goes all over the mountain (groomed, bumps and trees when available)- everything but the park. Suggest away.... Please.
post #8 of 24


Check out the new Icelantic SKNY with a 95mm waist and no metal layer.  It sounds like it should ski similar to the old PRs.


Edited by mudfoot - 8/13/14 at 6:58pm
post #9 of 24
There are many finesse biased 90mm pseudo twins. Salomon Quest 90, Volkl Kink as two choices and if going into the 98 range...the fore mentioned Soul Rider is a great option.
post #10 of 24

My Pocket Rockets are still in my line-up, though now of rock status. I agree with the Solomon Quest 90 Phil mentioned above. My brother bought a pair last year and I tried them out for a couple of runs. Fun ski. Definitely a family resemblance. I might also mention the Blizzard Bushwackers, in the 88mm underfoot range, one of my all time favorites. With the profile you mentioned above, I think you should be thinking of skis in the high 90s as well. With the more recent crop of skis, 98 is the new 88.

post #11 of 24

Tagging onto this thread as I'm in a similar boat, different size and geo.

1 Pair of Pocket Rockets/1 Pair of Volkl Superspeed (short/narrow/heavy/stiff GS)
6'0, 225lbs, Fat kid who can still rip bumps/bowls/powder.

Ski mainly CO/WY - 10-15 days a year until my kids get older.

Love PR on everything but ice.  Love my Volkl's until its time to bump/bowl in powder.

In search of something that can handle it all, do better on ice than PR.
Not afraid to go bigger (huge side cut up to 110/115 underfoot).

 

Suggestions?

post #12 of 24
Thread Starter 
I was happy to hear you say that I should also look at skis in the 98 range underfoot. Being on the East people have been telling me to not go above 90- 95 at the absolute most. Do you think a 98 waist will be too wide to use everyday on the east?
post #13 of 24

I think the Soul7 is a god spiritual successor to the Pocket Rocket.

post #14 of 24
Thread Starter 
I think I would definitely be on the soul 7 if I was out west- but on the east I think it just might be too much for everyday use.
Can anyone tell me about Line's sick day 95? I heard they aren't changing it at all this year and people have told me it would be perfect for what I need.
post #15 of 24

I replaced my Pocket Rockets with a pair of Salomon Rocker2 92's. 91mm waist, wood core, ER tip and tail. Went up to a 179 from 175, and love them. More burly than the blue noodles, but still playful as heck. Recommended mount is dead center or -2 cm. I went -3, and have been very happy.

 

Salomon renamed the ski "Remix" last year, and it looks like there's still good inventory on closeout. Try a google search if you're interested. I also posted a review of the Rocker92 here: http://www.epicski.com/products/2013-salomon-rocker2-92/reviews/3346

 

Looks like the closest thing in Salomon's line for this year is the Q-90. The Rocker2 100 looks interesting too, but I'd want something skinnier in the quiver for firmer days, regardless of being in the East or West. 

post #16 of 24
Thread Starter 

Cool- thanks- Im going to check out the remix. Do you know anything about Line skis- the sick day 95?

post #17 of 24
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Originally Posted by gtfisch View Post
 

Cool- thanks- Im going to check out the remix. Do you know anything about Line skis- the sick day 95?

 

That is a ski I forgot to mention, yes, a good option. Also, the new Salomon Rocker2 100 is also a winnah, and it also is the same color as the ole Pocket Rocket...

 

post #18 of 24
Thread Starter 

love the look of the rocker2 100- do you think it's too much park for someone who goes everywhere (trees, bumps and groomed) except the park? Will 100 underfoot be too much on the hard pack in the east?

post #19 of 24
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Originally Posted by Philpug View Post
 

 

That is a ski I forgot to mention, yes, a good option. Also, the new Salomon Rocker2 100 is also a winnah, and it also is the same color as the ole Pocket Rocket...

 

I'll bet the color choice wasn't an accident.

 

gtfisch, I don't find the Rocker2 92/Remix to be too parky at all. I use it everywhere, and love it in everything but deep powder or rock hard bumps, but it handles those pretty well too.

 

I know nothing about the sick day. The last Line ski I demoed was the prophet 90, which I skied the same day as the Rocker92/Remix. I was underwhelmed by the prophet 90, and bought the Rocker92/Remix instead. YMMV

post #20 of 24
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Originally Posted by gtfisch View Post
 

love the look of the rocker2 100- do you think it's too much park for someone who goes everywhere (trees, bumps and groomed) except the park? Will 100 underfoot be too much on the hard pack in the east?

 

The Rocker 2 100 should be great for most days in the trees, 50/50 in the bumps, and subpar on groomers when compared to narrow skis. 

 

I own and ski a 177 soul rider nearly every day but on days that I am spending more time on groomer I would wish I would be on something else. It holds an edge ok when sharp but is not damp enough or stiff enough for real groomer usage. Ironically I think the Patrons despite being wider do better on groomer then the Soul rider still niether are OSQ for the east even at snow locals for most people. 

 

I had Rocker 2 92 and well much better in the bumps than the Soul riders, it was far worse on groomers. 

 

The Bushwacker are by far the best bump, skied out tree ski of the whole bunch being mentions and better on groomers than anything 88+ I have tried beside the Braham. the brahma gains in hardpack and crud but feels slightly more unforgiving skiing bumps and trees. I broke 2 different brahmas though and makes me weary of a metal/wood ski for my use in the east. I ski far to many bumps and jump off to many things and it seems to seperate the laminate from the wood. I think most people would be fine, but most people who would be fine and not break the Brahma probably go easy enough the bushwacker is the call....

 

long story short you can not really have good tree ski in the east that is a OSQ in the east as well. IMO 2 skis should be 80-85 under foot tight radius min rocker if any at all, and 100-105+ foot tip and tail rock reasonable soft and noodly.  100 mm is not to wide, its just not very much fun on harder day compared to more convential days and unless you can hike,skin, traverse pick days and shun all of your friends who like groomers its hard to ski a 100mm wide ski nearly every day. 

post #21 of 24

Actually, that Rocker2 100 looks like a good place for me to go when I destroy the 92's.

 

I find it interesting that sandwich construction is finding its way onto so many skis in the pioneer of cap construction's line.

post #22 of 24
I am skiing Josh's Rocker2 92's @ -2cm mount point. Love that ski for all mountain western use on typical 4-5" days when "fun" is the driver. Hard to find that much "shape" in a skinnier waist ski. Not sure what length you are looking for, but there are two 171's on eBay right now with bindings in the $400 range.

The two skis I am looking at as replacements, mostly to get some additional length (179 is a little short for me on a centerish mount ski), are the Soul Rider and the Rocker2 100. My gut is the Rocker2 100 is a little more in the 'grin' category while the SR has a bit more top end seriousness to it, but that be pure speculation. I will for certain be looking at Rocker2 100 sales as the season progresses. Easy to pull that trigger coming from the 92.

In your shoes, I'd still consider finding a Rocker2 92 already set up, though, because that ski probably nails it in a very budget friendly way, and you should not be out much coin to sell it to the next guy if you really wanted something more.



post #23 of 24
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Originally Posted by NayBreak View Post

I am skiing Josh's Rocker2 92's @ -2cm mount point. Love that ski for all mountain western use on typical 4-5" days when "fun" is the driver. Hard to find that much "shape" in a skinnier waist ski. Not sure what length you are looking for, but there are two 171's on eBay right now with bindings in the $400 range.

The two skis I am looking at as replacements, mostly to get some additional length (179 is a little short for me on a centerish mount ski), are the Soul Rider and the Rocker2 100. My gut is the Rocker2 100 is a little more in the 'grin' category while the SR has a bit more top end seriousness to it, but that be pure speculation. I will for certain be looking at Rocker2 100 sales as the season progresses. Easy to pull that trigger coming from the 92.

In your shoes, I'd still consider finding a Rocker2 92 already set up, though, because that ski probably nails it in a very budget friendly way, and you should not be out much coin to sell it to the next guy if you really wanted something more.



 

 

those skis for me always took a bottom feeder approach to powder sking, but it was bottom feeding with power steeting. despite being very much in the snow they seemed to to just go where you want. Glad you are liking them! I go though so many skis its hard to keep track of where they go sometimes! 

 

The 177 soulrider feel about the same everywhere with maybe slightly better hard snow grip, to be honest I wish I had the 185 on some days, and all days out west. 

post #24 of 24

I spent a little time on the upcoming K2 Shredittor 92 near the end of last season (soft spring snow)…it's one easy ski.    I liked it a lot.  

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