Just in the news, they are building the biggest ski in/out resort along with an indoor water park
Camelback ski resort
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Camelback already has an outdoor water park in full operation. They are going to build an indoor water park that's supposed to be the biggest in PA. Won't be open until Spring 2015 though, so no impact on the next ski season. Based on how folks at Jay Peak and Massanutten use the indoor waterpark after skiing, likely to be popular. Especially for families where not everyone likes to ski or snowboard.
The new lodge will have 453 rooms. Sounds pretty big for the Poconos.
This is a joke? PA is the abbreviation for Pennsylvania.
If they do make it the biggest, I can't imagine how bad the lines will get.. Have they added more terrain? More lifts? The place was already a zoo ten years ago. They must be planning on siphoning off people from skiing into the water park or something.
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The proposed expansion will create an upscale 4 season resort which will expand on Camelback has history of summer tourism associated with it's water park. The existing base facilities and large parking area are far more robust than needed for skiing. Much of their cash flow comes from summer $$$. It's location, a few miles off of an interstate highway, and close Philly, NJ and NYC, should well support the investment. The local Pocono economy sure could use the jobs. My home mountain, Blue, is spending $$$ to create summer recreational interest, and, has hopes of a future resort hotel.
From a skiing perspective, the ski infrastructure and skiable acreage is maxed out on weekends. It's a little strange to ski there, the upper mountain is steeper, halfway down it's all green. I learned ski there, as did @Philpug, but, rarely revisit as the extra 45 minute drive is not worth it for those living closer to Philly. Still, CB is well suited to continue to draw skiers as its size is far larger than the Pocono competition.
Pet peeve. "It's" is not a possessive. It's a contraction of "it is"...
I skied CB from 1974-75 through 2002-03. The last 15 as a homeowner and pass holder. IMO, they need more acreage before they add more "draw".
I skied it from about when you started, 1975 till the mid 80's, I agree with your comment. They cannot handle more skier visits with not so much the uphill capacity but on the trail network.
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I'm surprised that Living Proof says the parking is more than they need. I was there days that the parking situation had cars backed up, not just down the road a ways, but clear to the Interstate, preventing people from exiting the Interstate and they CLOSED THE EXIT AND MADE YOU DRIVE TO THE NEXT EXIT!! So they must have expanded parking or had a severe down turn in business after we moved.
I highly doubt that traffic backup was caused by Camelback traffic. More likely from the large shopping center (Crossroads) located off the same exit.
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Hence why I was mystified about the comment. Don't get the joke. Or this was a New Yorker's view that the only actual state IS New York?
Actually, I'm not NY centric. Rather PA skiing is not worth the drive and fight (crowd) compare to the little extra time to VT. Unless one lives south and west of PA, making VT too long of a haul.
Sad to say mine too. I do day trips in PA exclusively at ELK, unless a weekday with lots of fresh new snow at Blue, a rare exception. Skied Camelback regularly from 1974/75 - 1978, then found ELK. And that was when 55mph speed limits were strictly enforced, so much better now at 65mph, can't wait till they up it to 70.
I agree Elk was/is a better mountain but Camelback was 20 minutes from my house, it was too easy to get there before, during and after school. Camelback was pretty good before they homogenized it by taking the trees out of The Hump, cutting The Asp and Margies straight down and removing all the side trail cut offs. One of my best skiing experiences is still from there, when they had their first "All Night Ski", what a great time for a high schooler.
I stopped going to CB before they homogenized it.
Was a junior member of the Wissahickon Ski Club as a teen so went there at least once a week usually twice/week during ski season. I only skied the black diamond runs, well what little terrain CB had of them, mostly Margies, the Hump and Rocket and Asp were usually closed or a ice rink!
Memorable moment was from the late seventies when they held a Pro Freestyle meet with respectable aerials on iirc the Hump or Rocket.
We most probably saw each other skiing there back in the day.
To bad they can't build a higher and steeper mountain!
All I remember is when they had the Freestyle Tour in 1980. The Moguls are at Camelback on Margies, the Ballet at Big Boulder and the Aerials at Shawnee on Chief Thundercloud.
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Title of an August 6, 2014 article about Camelback on the SkiPA website is "Popular Camelback Mountain Will Soon Be Home to The Largest Ski In/Ski Out Indoor Waterpark Hotel in the U.S." [bold added]. Opening is planned for March 2015, after the 2014-15 ski season is over.
Great shot Phill! I don't know of Frank Beddor the 3rd but that's so typical of what they were doing back then. Actually have a pencil and lose graphite rendering i did playing around with extreme perspective of that aerial form which i did in high school.
Fwiw, i don't recall that Pocono trifecta but distinctly remember looking at the aerials ramp at the top of Camelback and thinking it was scary big, curved to almost a 90 degree angle up. I also remember the Scandinavian blond woman aerial athlete i spoke to, said hi or something. Never skied Shawnee or BB, so i'm not confused. Possibly the event wasn't all that, could've been a exposition and not a competition.