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Biggest, burliest 90-100 mm allmountain ski?

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A friend of mine is a quite big (2.03 m and 108 kg) expert level skier looking for a 90-100 mm all-mountain sti to go with his ~115 and ~125 mm powder boards. He's looking for 50/50 on/off-piste performance.

 

Any suggestions, apart from the Mantra and the Bonafide?

 

Thanks

post #2 of 13
Little wider? 14/15 Moment Belafonte 194 is 106.

praxis 9d8 191, stiff layup

14/15 kastle mx 98, not sure which sizes are gonna be available
post #3 of 13
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Little wider? 14/15 Moment Belafonte 194 is 106.

praxis 9d8 191, stiff layup

14/15 kastle mx 98, not sure which sizes are gonna be available

Mx98 194cm
post #4 of 13

^^^^ This, if your friend is good on the $$$. Perfect fit as 50/50, amazing ski. If he wants to save a bit, the 2011-2013 Stockli Stormrider 95 was same shape and camber as the current, but without the reduced metal thickness and topsheet. So significantly burlier, more like the Stocklis of old, but still surprisingly easy to handle. It would fit his needs about as well. I reviewed it here somewhere a couple of years ago. He could find it on the web for 2/3 what it used to run. 

 

If he wants to save even more $, and doesn't need early rise in front, the Stockli Scot Schmidt's from the late 2000's are still around in 188 cm, 89 mm. This one is $299 new: http://www.ebay.com/itm/like/301131040536?lpid=82  I owned this in the 178; three full sheets of metal, burlier than anything currently in production, period. Will penetrate steel armor and glide over actual coral - not the kind on ski slopes - without you even noticing, silky and precise on groomed and in crud and chop, but demands a skilled pilot. In 188, it wants to go fast. Until this year, Stockli made a wider version of this ski, SS Pro, I think it was named, that's a touch flexier. But a few mm over 100, and not as 50/50.

 

And if he's on the ah, frugal side, like guys here who refuse to pay over $250 for any ski, he might find some long versions of the Head 103 around online. This is not far from the real competitive pro ski, stiff and damp, good for any speed. Also more like 30/70, but will carve as you'd expect from a Head. 

 

All of these calls are predicated on him being an expert, not a friend's assessment of a buddy who's a good skier. If he's less than high advanced, he will not much enjoy these skis regardless of his size. If he doesn't look much like how instructors ski, I'd say go for some different models, Something like the Blizzard Bonafide, last year's Head Experience 98, or a Praxis custom job in the high 90's will give him more grins-per-mile. 


Edited by beyond - 8/8/14 at 8:22am
post #5 of 13
In the cost-is-no-object category, Igneous makes super-burley skis:
http://www.igneousskis.com/ski-shapes/gs/
post #6 of 13

Take a look at the Rossignol Experience 100. It's getting a lot of raves and is the evolution from the E98, which is a very good all-mountain ski.

 

Here's a review from Blister Gear Review:

 

http://blistergearreview.com/gear-reviews/2014-2015-rossignol-experience-100-2

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Take a look at the Rossignol Experience 100. It's getting a lot of raves and is the evolution from the E98, which is a very good all-mountain ski.

 

Here's a review from Blister Gear Review:

 

http://blistergearreview.com/gear-reviews/2014-2015-rossignol-experience-100-2

Yup..that in the 190cm is up there with the MX98 but at half the $$ ($699 vs. $1349)

post #8 of 13

From my exp. at 220 pounds, for a 50/50, I would go with :

 

Blizzard magnum 8.5

Blizzard Brahma ( over the Bonafide for a 50/50)

The Volkl Mantra 98 ( and not the new one that is less stiff and with full camber)

The Rossi Experience 98 ( and not the new one that is less stiff)

The Kastle fx94 ( and even the mx 83)

The Nordica Steadfast if he likes lighter skis

 

 

The magnum, the mx83 and the steadfast are  the all around skis with the highest level of on-piste performance ( the mantra also but in a different way...)

The Brahma are just a todd under with a more ludic spirit

The others are also very nice but they are larger so...

post #9 of 13
SuperBROs
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SuperBROs

AKA Hart Boss. Yeah 195cm of 91mm beef.  Little known fact, If there were enough orders....Hart would have produced a 186cm and 177cm version of that ski That ski, in those two lengths...woud have been damn good skis..damn good. 

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Originally Posted by Philpug View Post

AKA Hart Boss. Yeah 195cm of 91mm beef.  Little known fact, If there were enough orders....Hart would have produced a 186cm and 177cm version of that ski That ski, in those two lengths...woud have been damn good skis..damn good. 


Truth! That ski was the widow maker of big mtn chargers! (May had something to do w the mounting position.)
post #12 of 13

After demoing the MX98 twice and ordering a pair I would second the vote for MX98 in 194. In large part for how remarkably civilized it is for the amount of HP it has

FX94 in 186 mentioned before IMHO will be a finesse ski for an aggressive guy at size. I love that ski but I don't find it overly burly at 20kg  and 20cm less.

An 188cm MX88 could also be a great choice although likely a tad less burly than a 191 Mantra or 194 MX98.

post #13 of 13

^^^^ This, or the Stockli SR 95. Although keep in mind these are $$. No competition if the point is precision and smoothness in no-fall zones. The MX88 won't have enough float for a guy this size who wants a 50/50, and agree the FX series is a bit too finesse oriented for someone this big. 

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