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Mounting bindings: How tight is too tight?

post #1 of 16
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I was changing my DIN and at first accidentally started turning the screw on top of the toe piece that holds the binding to the ski, not the DIN screw. In doing so I realized that screw seemed kinda loose (the screw that holds the binding to the ski, nothing to do with DIN). I was able to turn it a lot tighter before getting much resistance. Other ski, same thing. Both bindings on another pair (which were mounted at a different shop), again, I could turn the screws a lot tighter before getting much resistance. When I got to a fair amount of resistance I stopped tightening them, I don't think I got them tight enough to crack anything or force anything out of alignment or anything of the sort. Why do ski shop techs not tighten them further? Is there any disadvantage to having them tighter? Should I loosen them back to where they were? I also heard that Salomon STH bindings somethings come loose over time and need to be re-tightened, and both are Salomon STHs (STH Driver 14 and STH2 16), but one of the pairs I have only skied a few times, and both pairs were able to be tightened significantly, seemingly far too much for it to be a result of them coming slightly loose over time.
post #2 of 16
Guessing you are mixing up screws and their purposes. Don't experiment with your safety; stop now and take them to a good shop.
post #3 of 16
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Originally Posted by qcanoe View Post

Guessing you are mixing up screws and their purposes. Don't experiment with your safety; stop now and take them to a good shop.

Yup!  That screw you just tightened is for toe piece height.  You did not tighten it; you bottomed it out.  Do not attempt to ski with the bindings as they are now.  Your boot toe lug will probably get jammed and not release in the event of a fall. Take your skis and bindings to a qualified tech.  He/she will need your boots too, to re-adjust the bindings for proper toe lug height.  Do not attempt to do this yourself.

post #4 of 16

This project has potential.  Thinking it could actually be a troll? 

post #5 of 16
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This project has potential.  Thinking it could actually be a troll? 


Potential for what?  A broken leg?  Strange troll if true and one we can all be reminded by:  Don't mess with bindings unless you absolutely know what you're doing.

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 Originally Posted by crgildart View Post
 

This project has potential.  Thinking it could actually be a troll? 

 

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Originally Posted by Posaune View Post
 


Potential for what?  A broken leg?  Strange troll if true and one we can all be reminded by:  Don't mess with bindings unless you absolutely know what you're doing.


I'm just looking at the other threads started by OP.  Person doesn't know what the different toe piece screws do but hucks cliffs?
 

I crashed a 30-something foot cliff today...

 

Are there any triple black diamonds in the west?

 

GNAR (help me spread the game to other ski areas)

 

Reminds me of VitaminSki Race Plug Boots' posts. 

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Sometimes the internet is a pain in the butt and simultaneously boring. This is one of those times. Fooled me twice - shame on me. Now blocked.

post #9 of 16

Not a troll IMO. I got the screws on an adjustable toe piece mixed up once and I know everything there is to know about skiing. (I also know how to adjust the height  and it's all over the internet if the OP cares to look it up, but shop adjustment still a good idea to check release values.). 

post #10 of 16
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Originally Posted by crgildart View Post
 


I'm just looking at the other threads started by OP.  Person doesn't know what the different toe piece screws do but hucks cliffs?
 

I crashed a 30-something foot cliff today...

 

Are there any triple black diamonds in the west?

 

GNAR (help me spread the game to other ski areas)

 

Reminds me of VitaminSki Race Plug Boots' posts. 

Looks like an obvious troll!  Sorry for feeding him.  Is there a way to ask a Mod to ban him?

post #11 of 16

Umm... you guys need to look closer - he actually included video footage of said 30 foot cliff huck.  Doesn't seem like a troll to me, at all.

post #12 of 16

He is not a troll, just a summer skier like @Stev & @dookey67 

 

http://www.epicski.com/t/128431/skiing-gunsight-at-alta-on-july-21st

 

And I would get the bindings looked over at a shop, you don't wanna loose em where you tend to ski

post #13 of 16
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Originally Posted by JayT View Post
 

Umm... you guys need to look closer - he actually included video footage of said 30 foot cliff huck.  Doesn't seem like a troll to me, at all.


I found it odd that someone hucking cliffs hasn't figured out the most basic binding adjustments.  Sounds like a TGR kid trolling folks with a ridiculous question, especially from an experienced skier.  Triple blacks?  Question about cutting down poles might be legit though.

post #14 of 16

http://www.salomoncertification.com/manuals/SPM_14_EN_BINDING_WEB_FIN_Rev_04.pdf

 

http://www.salomoncertification.com/manuals/Salomon_Shop_Practices_and_Spare_Parts.pdf

 

read this, it will explain all the details on how to adjust your bindings giving you have the right tools... it's not absolutely necessary to take the bindings to a shop assuming you know what you are doing, the tech document from salomon is pretty accurate and has a lot of good information.


Edited by mfa81 - 8/4/14 at 5:46pm
post #15 of 16
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Originally Posted by crgildart View Post
 
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Originally Posted by JayT View Post
 

Umm... you guys need to look closer - he actually included video footage of said 30 foot cliff huck.  Doesn't seem like a troll to me, at all.


I found it odd that someone hucking cliffs hasn't figured out the most basic binding adjustments.  Sounds like a TGR kid trolling folks with a ridiculous question, especially from an experienced skier.  Triple blacks?  Question about cutting down poles might be legit though.


All it takes to huck cliffs or ski sick lines is a willingness to do it.  You don't need to know things.  Just say'n.

post #16 of 16
Thread Starter 
Thank you everyone for the info, I will take them to a shop tech to be sure they are set right.

I am not trolling, and I do know how to adjust DIN and have done so many times in the past. However, I have never mounted bindings myself so I'm not familiar with other adjustments. Yes, it was a stupid mistake when I started turning the wrong screw, but I was just not thinking at first and realized right away what I did wrong. I just found it weird that it seemed so loose, and had been advised in the past that bindings sometimes need to be re-tightened. I didn't realize there was a screw for adjusting toe height, hence the confusion.

Re: the triple black diamond thread, if you actually read the thread, I asked the question purely out of curiosity. I know that trail ratings are very subjective. Not sure how asking a question for the sake of personal research makes me a troll?
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