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post #1 of 23
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Forbes did an article about Jackson Hole's Fantasy Week for Skiers which is January 6-13, 2015, and costs $3,500.

 

The package includes a couple of dinners, daily lunches, cocktail parties, four days of skiing with private guiding by Jackson Hole Mountain Resort and/or Exum Mountain Guides with Teton Gravity Research pro skiers. There are also gifts including gear from TGR and a Marmot ski jacket.

Fantasy Week for Skiers New This Winter 

 

I wonder if  @tetonpwdrjunkie or @Bob Peters can tell us more about this. 

post #2 of 23
Doesn't include lodging. Gee, would be nice to be rich.
post #3 of 23
Beat me to it - I just came over to post about this.

I'm a little gobsmacked about the 5 star packaging of Teton backcountry skiing. It's a little different than I've been doing it. I notice the article's in Forbes' Lifestyle section.


Can't wait for the TRs to start showing up though.
post #4 of 23
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Beat me to it - I just came over to post about this.

I'm a little gobsmacked about the 5 star packaging of Teton backcountry skiing. It's a little different than I've been doing it. I notice the article's in Forbes' Lifestyle section.


Can't wait for the TRs to start showing up though.

I noticed that too.  I was relating it to the folks who have the $$ to pay for an adventure that they may not do if there weren't a market place for it. 

Sort of like paying for sherpas to help you climb a major peak? 

There is knowledge and training that the customer has to go through to prepare for this, but having a paid staff to take you on the adventure is pretty awesome if you can afford it. 

post #5 of 23
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Sort of like paying for sherpas to help you climb a major peak? 

Minor point: I think there's another layer of separation beyond that. It's more like paying an expedition company to hire guides and pay the Sherpas.

Different level of experience that if you were to hire the Sherpas yourself and not have guides.
post #6 of 23
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Minor point: I think there's another layer of separation beyond that. It's more like paying an expedition company to hire guides and pay the Sherpas.

Different level of experience that if you were to hire the Sherpas yourself and not have guides.

Point taken. 

 

I wonder if this target group is the customer who understands and respects the backcountry risk, or someone who has an assumption of "I paid to play so that the professional will take care of me" :dunno

post #7 of 23
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I wonder if this target group is the customer who understands and respects the backcountry risk, or someone who has an assumption of "I paid to play so that the professional will take care of me" th_dunno-1%5B1%5D.gif

My uninformed guess would be more of the latter, but I'm kind of curious about the target group. 1%?
post #8 of 23
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Point taken. 

 

I wonder if this target group is the customer who understands and respects the backcountry risk, or someone who has an assumption of "I paid to play so that the professional will take care of me" :dunno

 

Target group is skier wants to rub elbows with TGR pros. 

post #9 of 23
When you factor in the lodging ($499 per night, but one night is "free") it is about the same as helicopter skiing.

Too rich for my blood, but if you are a middle aged fanboy I suppose it is worth it.
post #10 of 23

My question is how many skiers who pay that kind of $ to go skiing also want to do 3 of the days where you also pay with your sweat to earn your turns in the back country?

post #11 of 23
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My question is how many skiers who pay that kind of $ to go skiing also want to do 3 of the days where you also pay with your sweat to earn your turns in the back country?

Oh, plenty. You don't make that kind of money by being lazy. 

post #12 of 23
Lots of people have lots more money than I do because they're smarter and work much harder. Sure. But lots of other people have lots more money than I do for reasons completely unrelated to any of that. And some of them are undoubtedly lazy.
post #13 of 23
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Lots of people have lots more money than I do because they're smarter and work much harder. Sure. But lots of other people have lots more money than I do for reasons completely unrelated to any of that. And some of them are undoubtedly lazy.

ok, seriously, I didn't meant EVERYONE ... I just meant there is a market for this, that all rich people aren't lazy bums who aren't able to tie their own shoelaces (which seemed to be the implication).  There can be a correlation between alpha high achiever type A's and their leisure activities. Sorry if it came across wrong. 

post #14 of 23
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Target group is skier wants to rub elbows with TGR pros. 

 

I know a ton of folks who want to rub elbows with the TGR who can't rub two nickels together, but I'm betting they'd pull it together somehow if that's what it takes. 

 

 

 

One thing's for sure, Jackson Hole has a draw and they know how to build programs that bring people in from all walks of life. 

post #15 of 23

Wow, why would anyone do this when you could spend less (counting lodging) and go cat skiing in BC or something?  Seems crazy.  But I guess some people are... umm... star-f***ers for lack of a better word.

post #16 of 23

So, subtract the "fluff" - the dinners, lunches, freebies, TGR athletes - and this trip can be done on a much more affordable scale.  Get 3 of your friends together and the four of you can do the JH Tram/Backcountry day for around $350 each, (that includes a lift pass, the guide and ABS pack w/beacon).  Then for the next 3 days, line up the Exum guide for the same group of 4 at $160 each per day.  That is $830, w/o your food.  I know you can eat for less than $50 a day, even in Jackson, and you can find good lodging in town for around $125/night.  Stay 4 nights and your grand total is a much more affordable, $1,530. 

 

Oh, and one more thing.  You can line the trip I just described in late Feb or Mar when you are likely to have much better snow!

 

I think I'd pass on the freebies and the opportunity to ski with the stars.  :D

post #17 of 23
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As someone who helped with ESA, I know a little about what it costs to put a ski camp together.  $3,500 isn't too far off for a camp of this length with the things they're offering. I guess its up to the customer if he/she wants to pay for a cat trip, or this. 

post #18 of 23
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As someone who helped with ESA, I know a little about what it costs to put a ski camp together.  $3,500 isn't too far off for a camp of this length with the things they're offering. I guess its up to the customer if he/she wants to pay for a cat trip, or this. 


The cat trip, or heli trip for that matter, aren't the only options.  You can do this basic thing, minus the glitz (freebies) and the glamor (TGR athletes).  The link below is just that.  The prices for this last season were between $1600 and $2000, depending on how you did the room.

 

As I pointed out in my post above, if a person chooses this Fantasy Camp, they are basically paying $2000 to get some freebies and ski with TGR athletes.  What this package really demonstrates is how pricy it is to ski with current ski film stars, not how pricy backcountry ski packages are in general, and specifically with Exum guides.

 

http://exumguides.com/ublminxportfolios/backcountry-ski-weeks/

 

For the "average" person who wants to experience the Tetons AND have a professional guide provide the skill and expertise to get you into some awesome terrain and keep you out of trouble, I would recommend the 1 day option.  I did this last winter with Exum, and I plan on recruiting 3 friends to do it again this year so that I can get the cost down to the ~$160. 

 

Here is the video that I posted that showcases my Exum experience with one of their backcountry ski packages, (I may have posted this in a TR on here somewhere but I thought it was relevant to this thread).

post #19 of 23
Cody, the "fluff" and "freebies" are exactly what those skiers are paying for. You and I want to ski, not schmooze, but we all know there are plenty of skiers who would pay a premium to wine and dine and hump up a mountain with famous people. I think it's crazy--I mean yikes, $3500 is a season's worth of low-rent high-quality ski safaris within a few day's driving distance of home--but it's not like they don't know they could do the same thing cheaper without the glitz.
post #20 of 23
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The cat trip, or heli trip for that matter, aren't the only options.  You can do this basic thing, minus the glitz (freebies) and the glamor (TGR athletes).  The link below is just that.  The prices for this last season were between $1600 and $2000, depending on how you did the room.

 

As I pointed out in my post above, if a person chooses this Fantasy Camp, they are basically paying $2000 to get some freebies and ski with TGR athletes.  What this package really demonstrates is how pricy it is to ski with current ski film stars, not how pricy backcountry ski packages are in general, and specifically with Exum guides.

 

http://exumguides.com/ublminxportfolios/backcountry-ski-weeks/

 

For the "average" person who wants to experience the Tetons AND have a professional guide provide the skill and expertise to get you into some awesome terrain and keep you out of trouble, I would recommend the 1 day option.  I did this last winter with Exum, and I plan on recruiting 3 friends to do it again this year so that I can get the cost down to the ~$160. 

 

Here is the video that I posted that showcases my Exum experience with one of their backcountry ski packages, (I may have posted this in a TR on here somewhere but I thought it was relevant to this thread).

Cody, that looks awesome!  What an experience. 

post #21 of 23
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Originally Posted by Cody Feuz View Post
 


The cat trip, or heli trip for that matter, aren't the only options.  You can do this basic thing, minus the glitz (freebies) and the glamor (TGR athletes).  The link below is just that.  The prices for this last season were between $1600 and $2000, depending on how you did the room.

 

As I pointed out in my post above, if a person chooses this Fantasy Camp, they are basically paying $2000 to get some freebies and ski with TGR athletes.  What this package really demonstrates is how pricy it is to ski with current ski film stars, not how pricy backcountry ski packages are in general, and specifically with Exum guides.

 

http://exumguides.com/ublminxportfolios/backcountry-ski-weeks/

 

For the "average" person who wants to experience the Tetons AND have a professional guide provide the skill and expertise to get you into some awesome terrain and keep you out of trouble, I would recommend the 1 day option.  I did this last winter with Exum, and I plan on recruiting 3 friends to do it again this year so that I can get the cost down to the ~$160. 

 

Here is the video that I posted that showcases my Exum experience with one of their backcountry ski packages, (I may have posted this in a TR on here somewhere but I thought it was relevant to this thread).

If they're paying $2000.00, then they're not freebies. ;)

post #22 of 23
I'm pretty sure I spent less than $500 each trip skiing Mt. Moran and two attempts on the Grand.

But I dirtbagged it.
post #23 of 23
The package is largely about the 4 seasons filling the dead week. They often have a special promo that week.
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