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Get into the Ski Business | Area Reps Needed!

post #1 of 20
Thread Starter 

If you've ever wanted to get into the ski business, we are introducing a new European ski line into North America and are interested in finding experienced, technical skiers to help us.  As one of our ski area reps, you will:

 

·        Get to ski on what we think are great skis at or near our wholesale cost

·        Make money selling our skis to your fellow skiers

·        Earn free gear

·        Help us test new designs and influence future ski development

 

Top reps will earn a paid trip to the Ski Industry Association show held in Denver and participate with us in the ski tests held at the show.

 

Our ideal area reps are serious, technical skiers, and more than likely have a background as ski racers and instructors. Interested?  Send me a PM to get the conversation started!

 

Mike

post #2 of 20

Are you looking for any specific region? 

post #3 of 20
This is for Elan?
post #4 of 20
Blizzard
(period)
post #5 of 20
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by sibhusky View Post

This is for Elan?

 

No it's not!

post #6 of 20
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Originally Posted by mmckimson View Post

 

 

·        Get to ski on what we think are great skis at or near our wholesale cost

·     

 

 

So, as an employee, you have to pay for the product you are demoing and selling for the company. A product that you probably wouldn't normally choose to use. That doesn't exude a lot of confidence.

 

Before people will sell product for you, you have to sell the people on the product.

post #7 of 20
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Originally Posted by mmckimson View Post

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Originally Posted by sibhusky View Post

This is for Elan?

No it's not!

So, this is for some unnamed company we don't know if we like skiing on or not? Seems like the only people you'll get are those who will ski on anything to get a cheap pair of skis. (Wait... That sounds like me...) How can you expect to get a real fan that way? Seems like you should say, "Who likes x? Tell me why!" And pick the best answers, then interview.
post #8 of 20
Or, you could just pm the guy and ask what brand he's talking about and then start bashing...
post #9 of 20
Well, I asked if it was Elan, and he said no without telling us. I'm not bashing Elan. I just looked over his old posts to try and determine what brand it was. Seems like a crucial piece of information to me.
post #10 of 20
Hence my suggestion to pm him and ask. There is probably a reason he doesn't want to put it on the forum...
post #11 of 20
He could have PM'd me if it was a big secret just as easily. I'm sure I'm not the only one wanting the answer. Why is this even such a deal with you?
post #12 of 20

As it happens, I wasn't even reacting to your post per se, @sibhusky, nor did I suggest that you were bashing Elan (how could I have read that in your post?)

 

It just seems a bit rude to me that a guy who clearly has no intention of putting all his cards on the table in his public forum post (otherwise he would have named the brand, I imagine) doesn't seem to be taken seriously by everyone who reacted. That's all. 

 

And I think answers about his propositions are fair, as are serious suggestions to him how to reach the audiance he's most likely targeting. Just a bit of a misunderstanding between you and I, I suppose. 

post #13 of 20
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Originally Posted by Cheizz View Post

 

 

It just seems a bit rude to me that a guy who clearly has no intention of putting all his cards on the table in his public forum post (otherwise he would have named the brand, I imagine) doesn't seem to be taken seriously by everyone who reacted. That's all. 

 

 

To me it just looks like another pyramid marketing deal, and not a real offer of employment. These guys never put their cards on the table because, to continue the analogy, they are bluffing with nothing real.

 

The clues are all in the post, like "Make money selling our skis to your fellow skiers". It's OK to put the offer out there but at the same time is somewhat insulting to the intelligence of the readership. The thought that "experienced, technical skiers" would pay to use skis that the seller is not confident enough to name. To earn "good money" and earn "free gear" is a stretch to say the least. Folks try to sell energy drinks, vitamins, diet pills and make up this way. What's "good money" to a participant in a very expensive and exclusive sport, $100,000 a year?

 

Then imagine that selling unknown skis to your friends is somehow going to "influence future ski development" is an even greater stretch. The "Get Into the Ski Business" part is the most cheesey (sorry). Obviously the whole thing grinds and me and just seems out of place giving the forum's demographic. Sorry if this offends anyone, I could just change the channel I guess.

 

If you think it's a great deal by all means go for it. Maybe I'll see you ripping it up on a new brand, follow you to the lodge and buy a pair.

 

 

post #14 of 20

It's easy to make a small fortune in the "Ski Business".... Just start with a LARGE fortune..

post #15 of 20
Thread Starter 

All I can say is WOW to these posts!  I didn't know that attempting to build market share for a product organically by finding people that truly like a product and having them share it with others is a pyramid scheme. The reason I didn't name the brand is is simple:  nobody would have heard of it anyway.

 

However:

 

1. The brand is a ski company called Lusti that is manufactured in the Czech Republic. Still don't know them, do you? 

 

2. Why did I suggest technical skiers?  For the simple reason that Lusti makes primarily race, carving and on piste skis and they are the type of skiers that would like the brand and the way they ski.  We've had ex US Ski Team members, ,many ski race coaches and others on the ski and they like them... a lot!  In fact, I've got one such fellow who's working to build up our presence in the racing community.

 

3. I never said anyone would make a lot of money.  Nobody makes money in the ski business.  At the same time, what's wrong with offering avid skiers the possibility of potentially earning a little bit of money while skiing?  I've had someone working with me for the last 4 years or so and he consistently sells 25 pair or more a year of our skis (not Lusti of course as its brand new) and makes a little money and free skis. Beats paying for it I would say.

 

4. Why would I want people working with us that don't like the skis?  If someone were to try them and not like them, they wouldn't be interested in us or us in them. Reps typically buy their demo stock, by the way.

 

5. Similarly, Lusti doesn't really know our market, and as a company who primarily makes skis, they are more than willing to work with us in developing skis that work in this market. 

 

Cheers!

Mike

post #16 of 20

I've wondered how the "ski rep" system works.  I did know that reps buy their demo stock.

How do they make money?  Do they get sales commissions for a region?  Do stores place orders through them?

(I'm talking about established brands here.)

post #17 of 20
Thread Starter 

Yes, like most sales jobs, reps earn a commission on their sales.  With established brands, reps tend to be assigned a region and are charged with selling product to the ski retailers in their assigned regions.  Unless a rep handles a very established brand like Head or K2 as an example, they will typically rep 3 or 4 products so they have a chance to earn a decent living.

post #18 of 20

I work part time at a ski shop in western Canada. The ski reps want to see shop employees on their equipment.(One of the best closers is to tell the customer that this is the ski that you ski on).

 

So just for a comparison of sorts:

Reps usually offer skis to shop employees for 20% below wholesale or 30% if you get boots and skis. Wholesale being the price that the ski shop pays, although that amount can vary depending on volume ordered and payment up front or payments throughout the season.

 

This deal is better than what most CSIA Level II instructors get in Canada but not as good as the full sponsorship (free) that Level III or IV CSIA usually get.

post #19 of 20
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Originally Posted by mmckimson View Post
 

All I can say is WOW to these posts!  I didn't know that attempting to build market share for a product organically by finding people that truly like a product and having them share it with others is a pyramid scheme. The reason I didn't name the brand is is simple:  nobody would have heard of it anyway.

 

However:

 

1. The brand is a ski company called Lusti that is manufactured in the Czech Republic. Still don't know them, do you? 

 

2. Why did I suggest technical skiers?  For the simple reason that Lusti makes primarily race, carving and on piste skis and they are the type of skiers that would like the brand and the way they ski.  We've had ex US Ski Team members, ,many ski race coaches and others on the ski and they like them... a lot!  In fact, I've got one such fellow who's working to build up our presence in the racing community.

 

3. I never said anyone would make a lot of money.  Nobody makes money in the ski business.  At the same time, what's wrong with offering avid skiers the possibility of potentially earning a little bit of money while skiing?  I've had someone working with me for the last 4 years or so and he consistently sells 25 pair or more a year of our skis (not Lusti of course as its brand new) and makes a little money and free skis. Beats paying for it I would say.

 

4. Why would I want people working with us that don't like the skis?  If someone were to try them and not like them, they wouldn't be interested in us or us in them. Reps typically buy their demo stock, by the way.

 

5. Similarly, Lusti doesn't really know our market, and as a company who primarily makes skis, they are more than willing to work with us in developing skis that work in this market. 

 

Cheers!

Mike


The website shows some good looking skis at amazing prices.  If I did the conversion correctly, the ski cross model goes for only $422 US  (8700 Kc) with just about everything else going for less money.  If you are selling good performing new skis for under $400 (plus the shipping & distribution costs)...wow. 

post #20 of 20

   send me a pair of  

 

SCTwide 166 cm, incl. Binding...

 

 

I'll kick em down the hill.....

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