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post #31 of 41
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I don't know. It seems if some folks had their way, the Epicski High Court would declare the correct beginner, intermediate, and advanced ski for each ski area, based on prevailing conditions, the correct way to ski, and the correct terrain to want to ski.  Not using the ordained model will result in an immediate and permanent ban to save each skier from themselves, or to at least prevent their incorrect ski choices from infecting others.  Without such measure, when will the "tip flapping" ever end?

Tip flapping or lip flapping?

post #32 of 41
@anachronism i don't know where you got your ideas, but I actually prefer ti rise in SL skis due to the newer wider shovels...
All I said is if you want high performance an no nonsense marketing buy race-stock.
Rocker revers camber early rise asymmetrical designs all have benefits and drawbacks, they just get hyped up for PR purposes
post #33 of 41
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@anachronism i don't know where you got your ideas, but I actually prefer ti rise in SL skis due to the newer wider shovels...
 

 

I misunderstood. I thought you were saying I was wrong to think early rise on a race ski was beneficial, not the other way around.

 

I have no doubt there is a performance benefit there.

post #34 of 41
No worries
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So to the original email all I can say is Duh- hasn't it always been the way? 

 

Good for manufacturers as they can be seen to be doing something while not really doing anything, good for savvy customers (who know maybe a 2 year old "new" ski is fine), possibly bad for retail as they're forced to chop out old model stock at lower margin ( but arguably because of savvy customers at least have a chance to do so even off season).

 

Interesting lots of Euro retail stores won't mention model year (not necessarily the story online) or you have to be a bit savvy to seek out a manufacturer SKU sticker. If I were being cynical I might say that this is so they can get better margins from unsavvy customers turning up in resort stores and buying old stock.

post #36 of 41
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:ahijack: I'm more concerned with the lack of high performing skis that are not rockered, early rise or tip rockered.  From the same source as OP: Head's 11.5 m sl ski is ok, but their 13 m sl ski has tip rocker,  Kaestle RX12 is OK and so is Stockli laser SX, but that's about it, all the other "technical skis" have tip rocker. 

That might be fine if I got to ski on snow most of the time, but I have to ski on hardpack and ice most of the time.  My edges are getting thin, and I find the Kastle and Stockli skis a little pricy, and there doesn't appear to be a lot of new old stock for the good models.

 

I think you've raised this elesewhere - prime territory for an East Coast boutique brand if this is a real risk, otherwise you are in a demographic the industry doesn't want to cater for a the pric eyou want to pay.

post #37 of 41
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I think you've raised this elesewhere - prime territory for an East Coast boutique brand if this is a real risk, otherwise you are in a demographic the industry doesn't want to cater for a the pric eyou want to pay.


That seems like a very tiny demographic indeed.  Most east coast places have the hard core racers on the FIS skis, and the "HEY YO VINNIE!!!!" folks in Jets jackets on rentals without much in between.  There are also the park punks on center mounted twins, and the "wish it was a powder day" folks on their 100 + rockers.  The only carving skis I see are the once a year wonders out during Christmas break on ten year old gear.

post #38 of 41
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That seems like a very tiny demographic indeed.  Most east coast places have the hard core racers on the FIS skis, and the "HEY YO VINNIE!!!!" folks in Jets jackets on rentals without much in between.  There are also the park punks on center mounted twins, and the "wish it was a powder day" folks on their 100 + rockers.  The only carving skis I see are the once a year wonders out during Christmas break on ten year old gear.

 

 

Patriots jackets 'round heeyuh, feller.

post #39 of 41
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Patriots jackets 'round heeyuh, feller.

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Orange and Black? Must mean it's Halloween. Pretty nice dump for Halloween.

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