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Switzerland's Four Vallées Breaks Up

post #1 of 14
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For those who ski the Four Vallées in Switzerland, you will no longer be able to move from resort to resort on one ticket. 

 

As  reported, the companies who have been operating the sprawling lift system since 2006 have been unable to come to an agreement about revenue sharing.  On June 23rd, 2014, Vebier announced plans for the 2014-15 ski season, cutting its links to the other resorts. 

Read more here 

Switzerland’s largest ski area 4-Vallées breaks up

 

post #2 of 14

You might be able to but a la Park City it's all up in the air and subject to local politics and negotiation so Televerbier have played their hand.  Obviously hugely damaging for Nendaz etc.

post #3 of 14

How come this didn't get more attention?

I feel like this is big news. A lot of the major off piste routes go from resort to resort. Also, you got to remember most of the skiing centers around Verbier so there's got to be some economic repercussions for the neighboring resorts.

 

Plus, just as a traveller, it's more expensive for us now :(

post #4 of 14
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Originally Posted by skiking4 View Post
 

How come this didn't get more attention?

I feel like this is big news. A lot of the major off piste routes go from resort to resort. Also, you got to remember most of the skiing centers around Verbier so there's got to be some economic repercussions for the neighboring resorts.

 

Plus, just as a traveller, it's more expensive for us now :(

I was wondering the same thing, which is why I posted it here, tweeted it, and featured it on the home page here for several days. 

 

Big news in deed. 

post #5 of 14

Even in Europe there is hardly news about it. If I hadn't heard it from a facebookfriend who lives in Nendaz this would be the first time I heard it.

post #6 of 14

It's bad news for Nendaz, Thyon etc which is why the clever money says they'll ultimately cave.  Probably doesn't affect the core Verbier demographic of plush chalet and nice lunch that much but I can see it pushing more people to Bruson in search of variety, which probably is bad news for those in the know.  

 

Life might be about to get expensive for ski bums if they have to buy 2 passes though.

 

This article has a good summary of why its no biggie for the Verbier staying turista.  Remember this isn't like chopping the back bowls off Vail - the mountains are seriously big.

 

http://welove2ski.com/where-to-ski/end-of-the-4-valleys

post #7 of 14

Verbier break up the 4 Valleys

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This did hit local news, and Facebook (mainly by the people who live in Verbier).

Basically half the ski area ski pass will cost you more, if you want to go and do the other half of the 4 valleys (or 2 valleys) you will have to buy another ski pass which will cost you another 61 chfs.

 

This week and last week the local press reported that a mediator had been appointed to try and resolve the issue!

 

In the end its all about money.

 

Allegedly ;-) the issue is with the middle of the 4 valleys (yes where the longest most painful 1912 button lifts are still in operation, and have had next to no money spent bring them upto date, but they are demanding ~14m from Verbier (backpayments). Clearley Verbier doesn't want to pay for the use of the 1912 button lifts at that price!!

 

So we now have Verbier Grand Ski, and the Espace My Fort

 

Verbier did respond to some of the criticism saying that only 5% of people in Verbier with a 4 Valleys ski pass actually use the 4 Valleys.  Personally I'd like to see the data behind that clam!

post #8 of 14

Mont Fort is part of Nendaz-Veysonnez, not part of Verbier Grand Ski?  If so, that 5% claim by Verbier is very suspect.

post #9 of 14

Re the 5% I suspect they mean people who do the complete tour of the old 4 valleys, not just parts of it.??:eek

post #10 of 14
I think Mt Fort. will be in the Verbier pass too won't it for historic reasons?
post #11 of 14

Yes Mont Fort is on both ski passes

But.....You can't do the Backside on a Verbier ski pass (ie the return from Sivez), likewise the Nedaz pass means you can't leave the glacier without a Verbier pass....Nut!!

post #12 of 14

It has been quite a few years since I skied there but I have vivid memories of endless poling on long horizontal connecting paths that were marked as the connecting ski 'runs'.

 

Even then there were supposed enmities between the farmers who owned the land the skiers used. I believe it all came down to how the pie got apportioned.

post #13 of 14

The word is out: for the next 18 years, the ski area will stay together. More news to follow.

post #14 of 14

Great news, but did notice the wording in the Televerbier press release.  For those who have pre purchased the Verbier Grand SKi ski pass, their ski pass will automatically be upgraded to the 4 valleys at no extra cost. Note Verbier put the price up for the Verbier Grand Ski, so their announcement (to me) implies the 4 valleys ski pass will go up as well.    Maybe to help pay their fine for breaking up the 4 valleys....

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