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Salomon X Scream 10 Pilot nowadays analogue

post #1 of 8
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Hi, folks!

 

I'm seeking for your advice... About 10-12 years ago I was riding Salomon X Scream 10 Pilot which matched my style perfectly. Today, I want to take something that is almost the same in terms of characteristics (especially softness), but modern and brand new :)

It can be Salomon or any other firm.

 

Do you, guys, have any thoughts?

 

Thanks!

post #2 of 8

In that same time frame, I used to own a pair of Salomon X-Scream Series.  It was a great all around ski at the time.  But skis have evolved and there are skis today that will outperform X-Scream in all respects, including versatility.  They are wider and shorter.  Yet, they will perform as well if not better on hard snow, and will blow the doors off of the X-Xcreams in soft and variable conditions.

 

 

Skis have changed a lot over the past 10 years.   Skis as narrow as the X-Scream were in the day, i.e. 68 mm wide, are now specialized hard snow carvers.  88 mm wide (some would say 98 mm) is the new 68.  

 
Do your self a favour and keep an open mind.   
post #3 of 8
Thread Starter 
Thank you for your answer!

I think I formulated my wishes in a too strong manner! smile.gif
I want to take skis that are at least as flexible as those old ones... But if all other parameters are better, I'll be definitely happy!

What do you think of Salomon Enduro XT 850 + Z12? I don't like the design, but they seem to be a descendant of X-Scream 10 Pilot in a Salomon line smile.gif

Actually, I am quite open-minded! I would prefer skis with a great design, but without the loss of functions. For example, I've taken Icelantic Da'Nollie 3-4 years ago and had to adjust my style and technique to ride them properly smile.gif before that I had Movement Spark and also had to change... That's why I asked you.
post #4 of 8

rather than saying the ski matched your style why don't you tell us what you like in a ski? what conditions and style do you prefer? it's going to be way easier to find your match even outside the salomon brand ;)

post #5 of 8
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Oh... sure! :)

 

85-90% of time, I ride "on-piste". What's left is riding powder... So, I'm an avid all-mountain rider with a huge weight on tracks! Almost no freestyle at all, but I still prefer bent tails... :)

post #6 of 8

Today's on-piste oriented skis have quite a bit more sidecut and are much, much carvier than your old x-screams.  Is that bad?  Not necessarily, it depends on how you like to ski.  Honestly the right answer (IMO) is to tell you that skis today are so much different than your old x screams that you need to spend a day and demo a couple of skis to understand how today's skis feel and respond.  We could recommend skis, but none of them are going to be "almost the same" as your old skis because skis have changed.  You need to check them out and see what you like.

post #7 of 8

Enduros are much beefier than the X Screams.  How much do you weigh?  Where in the country do you usually ski?  Do you spend much time in bumps?  Crud?  If you ski mostly groomers, do you want to muscle a ski or do you like a nimble/playful ski?  These will be important factors in determining the right ski to suggest.  Once you get some recommendations, you really need to demo them, either at the mountain by paying for a demo package (check if the shop has a number of the skis you're considering) or at an early-season demo day.

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Originally Posted by jaobrien6 View Post
 

Today's on-piste oriented skis have quite a bit more sidecut and are much, much carvier than your old x-screams.  Is that bad?  Not necessarily, it depends on how you like to ski.  Honestly the right answer (IMO) is to tell you that skis today are so much different than your old x screams that you need to spend a day and demo a couple of skis to understand how today's skis feel and respond.  We could recommend skis, but none of them are going to be "almost the same" as your old skis because skis have changed.  You need to check them out and see what you like.

 

Thanks! Actually, I'm starting to think so too! As for "much carvier... yes, that's not very good, since I usually switch technics from carving to classic, depending on the slope ;)

 

 

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Originally Posted by mike_m View Post
 

Enduros are much beefier than the X Screams.  How much do you weigh?  Where in the country do you usually ski?  Do you spend much time in bumps?  Crud?  If you ski mostly groomers, do you want to muscle a ski or do you like a nimble/playful ski?  These will be important factors in determining the right ski to suggest.  Once you get some recommendations, you really need to demo them, either at the mountain by paying for a demo package (check if the shop has a number of the skis you're considering) or at an early-season demo day.

 

I weigh 75 kg. I had been skiing mostly in Sheregesh, Russia, till last winter. But next two seasons I'll spend on East Coast of U.S. and will be skiing mostly in New Hampshire. In Sheregesh, I skied mostly (but not only) well-done tracks (but not those just after Pisten Bully made them even). On those tracks I preferred soft skis and, I think, more playful... not a brutal carving ones. I liked my Movement Spark skis both on even tracks and on "mogul ones". But, unfortunately, I don't know what tracks are there in New Hampshire...

 

And yes, I'm definitely going to test all the skis you recommend (if you do). For instance, I don't exactly know what is the difference between muscle skis and playful. so I think I have to try both :)

 

Thank you, guys, for your patience with all this stuff :)

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