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post #91 of 119
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RuttRo. Looks like there will be no $199 pass this year, just $299. :(

 

https://www.facebook.com/SilvertonMountain/photos/a.243321265969.141540.26976765969/10153566208080970/?type=1&theater

 

This is sadly confirmed. No $199 pass. :(

 

So, what does one replace it with?

 

A Ski Cooper season pass has 3 days at Sunlight, Red River, Pajarito, Sipapu, Powderhorn, and Monarch (among many other places East of the Divide) for $240.  You lose the very extended season at A-Basin, but adding Sunlight gives you the option to do a Western Slope tour, and the NM areas could be the el nino ticket.

 

Anyone else have any ideas for alternatives? 

 

I take 2-3 regional trips a year, and have used this pass in the past to get me lift tickets to use for those trips. Some possible trips that would be on our radar are...

 

1. Crested Butte

2. NM ski areas- I love Taos, haven't skied anywhere else in NM. With an el-nino year queued up, it looks like a good year for Santa Fe/Sipapu.

3. Utah- Top choices would be Snowbasin, Powder, Solitude, Altabird, possibly Sundance? Zero interest in Park City.

 

So... anything in the way of 4 packs or deals that I should look at to build a vacation at any of these places? Really bummed that the Silverton deal dried up. 

 

We got the mountain collective ... but I'm sure you already know all about that one.

post #92 of 119
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We got the mountain collective ... but I'm sure you already know all about that one.

 

Yes. The cost is more than I want to spend, and we drive (this year, driving a motorhome). 

 

Within driving range (~8 hours) we only have Altabird and Aspen. My brother has lived in Snowmass Village for 11 years, and can almost always get us passes 50% off or better through connections, which removes much of the benefit of Aspen. So, it doesn't make financial sense.

 

Monarch's pass at $450 offers some pretty decent variety that I could see using (Silvy, Copper, Loveland, Purg, Pajarito, Sipapu and Snowbowl are all mountains I could see utilizing)- but I would need to will myself to jump up in price.

 

The Colorado Gems card got nuetured a few years ago. Maybe it will be a white knight and come back?

 

I'm not finding much in the way of 4 pack offerings, I guess Solitude offers a 5 pack, but I'd be hard pressed to get 5 days of skiing at one place that far away... 

 

:(

post #93 of 119

Last year Shell Ski Free gave 2 for 1 coupons for 10 gallons of gas at Crested Butte.  This years program is not out, but could be an option.

post #94 of 119
Taos is off the Silverton pass this season but added to the Purg pass. Interesting.
post #95 of 119
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Last year Shell Ski Free gave 2 for 1 coupons for 10 gallons of gas at Crested Butte.  This years program is not out, but could be an option.

 

Yes. I will keep my fingers crossed for that one. 

post #96 of 119
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Taos is off the Silverton pass this season but added to the Purg pass. Interesting.

 

Yes, DAMN IT.

 

The Purg pass suddenly looks really attractive.

 

Unlimited at Purg, Snowbowl, Pajarito, Sipapu, PLUS days at

 

Taos

Loveland

Monarch

Powderhorn

Sunlight

Powder Mountain

Brian Head

Grand Targhee

Crested Butte with lodging (or half price without).

 

Every single one of those mountains either ranks as one of my faves, or one that I really want to ski- especially in a big El-Nino year.

 

The problem? That pass went off sale August 7, And Silverton only announced no $199 sale after that. The Purg pass is now $949.

 

Had I known before the 7th that Silverton's pass deal was going belly up, I could have seen buying a Purg pass this year. 

 

What sucks about the whole season pass situation down here is that Purg passes go on sale for cheapest in April, but Silverton doesn't announce it's pricing and perks until over the summer, and Wolf doesn't give out their pricing until a few weeks before passes go on sale in late September. You basically have to commit blind.

post #97 of 119

Taos just got added to the MCP.

post #98 of 119
I bought the Purg pass over the Powder Alliance pass just due to the Taos benefits. My only perceived loss was Crested Butte but Purg just recently added benefits for them as well. I think it is half off or 3 free days at CB. So Purg's pass is pretty unbeatable for skiing southern CO. I also was able to get the young adult rate since I am only 29 which put my pass at $419. I estimate I can get my skiing costs down to $10 per day next season.
post #99 of 119

A-basin pass for $299 gets you three days at Taos and one unguided day at Silverton.   Probably worth it if you used those and some A-basin days in the spring:

http://arapahoebasin.com/ABasin/tickets/season-passes.aspx

post #100 of 119
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Taos just got added to the MCP.

 

Nice.  I keep hoping T-ride gets added to the MCP.  Sure makes sense in my small brain, or maybe just wishful thinking.   It's already really attractive with Taos added, but T-ride would make an even more fantastic WY/UT/CO/NM road trip!

post #101 of 119
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Nice.  I keep hoping T-ride gets added to the MCP.  Sure makes sense in my small brain, or maybe just wishful thinking.   It's already really attractive with Taos added, but T-ride would make an even more fantastic WY/UT/CO/NM road trip!

 

That would definitely be the fantasy road trip. It's still pretty good as it stands right now.

 

 Not sure if Aspen and Taos be happy if T-ride joins the MCP.  

post #102 of 119
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A-basin pass for $299 gets you three days at Taos and one unguided day at Silverton.   Probably worth it if you used those and some A-basin days in the spring:

http://arapahoebasin.com/ABasin/tickets/season-passes.aspx

 

Since I already have an MCP, the ABasin pass would get me 5 days at Taos.  Then I would be pretty much required to go to Taos and A-basin, right?

post #103 of 119
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Since I already have an MCP, the ABasin pass would get me 5 days at Taos.  Then I would be pretty much required to go to Taos and A-basin, right?

 

That was my take when Silverton swapped out Loveland for Taos last year. 

post #104 of 119
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The problem? That pass went off sale August 7, And Silverton only announced no $199 sale after that. The Purg pass is now $949.

 

 

I'm seeing the Purg Power Pass for $749 right now for Adults.  Their site linked me to this site https://www.isalessite.com/skipurgatory-passes/Catalog/Default?ArrivalDate=08%2F12%2F2015%2000%3A00%3A00

 

Isn't Wolf like $650?

post #105 of 119
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I'm seeing the Purg Power Pass for $749 right now for Adults.  Their site linked me to this site https://www.isalessite.com/skipurgatory-passes/Catalog/Default?ArrivalDate=08%2F12%2F2015%2000%3A00%3A00

 

Isn't Wolf like $650?

 

Wolf hasn't announced pricing for next year. They probably won't for over a month. :(

 

Last year a single season pass during their 2 week sale in late Sept ran $683- but you could buy a second "family" pass fpr $527, making it $600 for 2. 

 

After a long talk about this just now, I think my wife and I are leaning towards a Wolf pass. However, during the April sale at Purg, we may jump ship next year. By then, we shouldn't have to hope that Coleman will open the mountain and open terrain on the mountain when snow comes, rather than the "Purg doesn't open until Thanksgiving and the backside doesn't open until Christmas no matter how much snow falls" BS. We will have some idea one way or another.

post #106 of 119

Interesting that Taos is added to the Mountain Collective a day after Silverton announces its pass partners.  Guessing Taos was playing off the two offers and went with Mountain Collective.  Good move on their part in terms of exposure.

post #107 of 119
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Wolf hasn't announced pricing for next year. They probably won't for over a month. :(

 

Last year a single season pass during their 2 week sale in late Sept ran $683- but you could buy a second "family" pass fpr $527, making it $600 for 2. 

 

After a long talk about this just now, I think my wife and I are leaning towards a Wolf pass. However, during the April sale at Purg, we may jump ship next year. By then, we shouldn't have to hope that Coleman will open the mountain and open terrain on the mountain when snow comes, rather than the "Purg doesn't open until Thanksgiving and the backside doesn't open until Christmas no matter how much snow falls" BS. We will have some idea one way or another.

 

I think you should throw caution into the wind and get a Purg pass.  Worst case scenario they open Thanksgiving and you have to buy a couple day tickets to Wolf?  With that said I don't think this will be the case with the owner.  You have to remember his "thing" has always been getting Sipapu open first in NM.  Now he has a ski area that gets pretty reliable early season snow.  I wouldn't be surprised to be making an early Nov. trip to Purg instead of Wolf this year. 

 

Edit:  check this out, the flyer even mentions opening chair 8 earlier in the season and the snowmaking capability work they are doing there as well.  No more messing around over there, they will have a nice shiny quad I am sure they will want to get up and running asap every season.  http://www.purgatoryresort.com/dmr/assets/Image/purgcapimprovementsmap.jpg


Edited by core2 - 8/11/15 at 7:30pm
post #108 of 119
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Interesting that Taos is added to the Mountain Collective a day after Silverton announces its pass partners.  Guessing Taos was playing off the two offers and went with Mountain Collective.  Good move on their part in terms of exposure.

 

Bacon is a smart dude. He has to get Taos skier days to 300K - 350K. Last year was about 225K. The Silverton partnering does nothing for Taos in terms of volume.

The MCP is on a whole different level. The increase visits from the MCP holders are great, but the real bonus are all the season pass holders looking for half price tickets from the other MCP mountains.

post #109 of 119
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Bacon is a smart dude. He has to get Taos skier days to 300K - 350K. Last year was about 225K.

225K on the 209 inches snowfall is close to what would be expected from that old data from 1995-2002.   But average snowfall only predicts 260K, so yes some marketing is likely needed if you want that to be 300K.  I agree MCP had to be attractive to Taos.

post #110 of 119
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I think you should throw caution into the wind and get a Purg pass.  Worst case scenario they open Thanksgiving and you have to buy a couple day tickets to Wolf?  With that said I don't think this will be the case with the owner.  You have to remember his "thing" has always been getting Sipapu open first in NM.  Now he has a ski area that gets pretty reliable early season snow.  I wouldn't be surprised to be making an early Nov. trip to Purg instead of Wolf this year. 

 

Edit:  check this out, the flyer even mentions opening chair 8 earlier in the season and the snowmaking capability work they are doing there as well.  No more messing around over there, they will have a nice shiny quad I am sure they will want to get up and running asap every season.  http://www.purgatoryresort.com/dmr/assets/Image/purgcapimprovementsmap.jpg

 

Wolf Creek pass jumped up to $731. 2 Adult passes (family plan) is now $650 each- up just about $50 from last year, which was up $50 from the year before, and $50 from the year before...

 

It is getting harder and harder to hold my nose and pony up for the Wolf Pass, but the terrain, snow, and opening date is really hard to pass up. Even with aggressive snowmaking, Purg doesn't have any hope of getting terrain open as fast as Wolf, and even when everything is open, the ski experience isn't the same. Purg doesn't get enough snow to ski wall to wall through the trees until late into the season. 

 

That said, I don't know how I am going to pass by a Purg pass during the Spring sale.

 

Edit- and in another sign that Purg has some new awesome culture going on, I just got an e-mail from a Purg VP offering me a pair of comp day passes. I had e-mailed her 4 weeks ago about getting into the previous (expired) pricing tier, and then had to back out when I actually talked to my wife (who pushed me to Wolf). After she responded, I had to sheepishly explain that I jumped the gun. A few more back and forths where I told her we probably would be buying Spring passes, and she offered up the day tickets to help us make up our mind next year. That is pretty awesome and came out of the blue. 

post #111 of 119
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Wolf Creek pass jumped up to $731. 2 Adult passes (family plan) is now $650 each- up just about $50 from last year, which was up $50 from the year before, and $50 from the year before...

 

It is getting harder and harder to hold my nose and pony up for the Wolf Pass, but the terrain, snow, and opening date is really hard to pass up. Even with aggressive snowmaking, Purg doesn't have any hope of getting terrain open as fast as Wolf, and even when everything is open, the ski experience isn't the same. Purg doesn't get enough snow to ski wall to wall through the trees until late into the season. 

 

That said, I don't know how I am going to pass by a Purg pass during the Spring sale.

 

Edit- and in another sign that Purg has some new awesome culture going on, I just got an e-mail from a Purg VP offering me a pair of comp day passes. I had e-mailed her 4 weeks ago about getting into the previous (expired) pricing tier, and then had to back out when I actually talked to my wife (who pushed me to Wolf). After she responded, I had to sheepishly explain that I jumped the gun. A few more back and forths where I told her we probably would be buying Spring passes, and she offered up the day tickets to help us make up our mind next year. That is pretty awesome and came out of the blue. 

 

Wow, that is awesome they hooked up some passes.  That shows they are actively trying to win back the locals.  I'm hoping to ski Wolf in November then Purg as much as possible the rest of the season.  The day Wolf gets creative with their pass pricing and partners I could see myself buying something from them but that doesn't seem likely to ever happen.  Until then I will enjoy my unlimited Purg benefits and lapping the new quad lift.  Now if only Coleman could somehow buy Wolf.

post #112 of 119
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... and Silverton just announced a Sunday unguided pass. 5 days of skiing for $69.

 

https://www.silvertonmountain.com/page/store/passes

post #113 of 119
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... and Silverton just announced a Sunday unguided pass. 5 days of skiing for $69.

 

https://www.silvertonmountain.com/page/store/passes

 

That's cheaper than a pair of Grass sticks ... just sayin' ...

 

*agony*

post #114 of 119
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That's cheaper than a pair of Grass sticks ... just sayin' ...

 

*agony*

 

Yeah, that is a pretty good deal- it pays for itself with 2 visits. But, you only have 5 specific days to use it, and Sunday is the worst day to ski there.

 

I dunno.

post #115 of 119
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That's cheaper than a pair of Grass sticks ... just sayin' ...

 

*agony*

 

Yeah, that is a pretty good deal- it pays for itself with 2 visits. But, you only have 5 specific days to use it, and Sunday is the worst day to ski there.

 

I dunno.

 

Those are two good points I hadn't considered. In any case, there is no way I'm buying more passes this season! *stomps foot for emphasis*

post #116 of 119

I would loooove to know how many days Silverton's unguided passes like that are actually used. I bet they make a pretty penny selling those while no one uses them. 

post #117 of 119
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you only have 5 specific days to use it

and only the 2 in late season are likely to be worthwhile.

post #118 of 119
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I would loooove to know how many days Silverton's unguided passes like that are actually used. I bet they make a pretty penny selling those while no one uses them. 

 

 

This is the first time I have seen them offer the Sunday pass. 

 

As for the old $199 pass? The first year (2013/2014) I used it twice at Silverton, and I used 4 days at Loveland, 3 at A-basin and 4 or 5 at Monarch. 

 

2014/2015 I didn't use a single day at Silverton. Not enough snow early season (although I did hear that opening day was pretty good before it packed down to hit rock) and late season was a PROLONGED thaw/freeze with temps not really warm enough to make corn during the two late weekends. I used 3 days at Taos, 3 days at A-Basin, 2 days at Monarch. 

 

How much of a pretty penny they made depends a lot on what the arrangement for the partner days was. Considering they raised the price and downgraded partners (Taos-Powderhorn), I suspect they didn't make a mint or were otherwise strong-armed into not selling them at the fire-sale rate.

post #119 of 119
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and only the 2 in late season are likely to be worthwhile.

 

Yes. The April unguided is the time. Consider any worthwhile days in December to be bonus. Silverton is notoriously sketchy early season, even with LOTS of early season snow. 

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