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Blizzard GSR 2013 and WRC 2014

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Thread Starter 
I have these picked out. All the info I can find says the skis are about the same exept the gsr only goes to 181 the size I want while the wrc is offered in 182 and 186 making me wonder how stiff the GSR might be since it is the longest ski they made in that model. Also the WRC comes with a marker piston plate. If they ski almost the same I can buy the GSR for 250 less.
Edited by levy1 - 6/30/14 at 5:22am
post #2 of 10

Livi,

Save your money, and just ski your FIS Volkls.  Ski them faster and tip them on edge more; they will work well enough.

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Thread Starter 

Thank you, now can you please answer the question?

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Thank you, now can you please answer the question?

 

 

Ghost is right you know. 

post #5 of 10
Thread Starter 
Let me just say that I have Scottskier backup on asking the question. Now how about some answers
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Let me just say that I have Scottskier backup on asking the question. Now how about some answers

I think you take Scot Skier's advice. With ANY ski one purchases, there's always some chance involved. At least if SS sells you something, it's going to be well tuned, and that's one of the biggest variables out there.
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To be fair to Levy1, (I should add that I have exchanged a lot of PMs with him to try to help him in his search and i am sure he will not mind if I expand on this a bit) i do suspect that hius original 177 Volkl may be, shall we say, less than satisfactory for him. Volk race stock*** in the past, apart from the real deal race stock,  tended to be a bit softer than a lot of other race stock skis out there (and probably one reason why they were very popular with women).  To add to that he was on a 177 which really was designed more as an entry level race skis for girls and juniors.  And he was using it without a plate.  And he was trying to ski it old school. And he is 185#.  Start to see some issues there????.  Maybe with one or even 2 of these things in his favor it could have been workable, but in this case it was almost a full house stacked against him!!!!  

 

With the logical outcome....you try to ski what is to all intents a junior ski for ~ 100#  with almost double that weight....... and you don't roll the ski up inn edge the way it should be skied.... yeah, it is going to be like a wet noodle and skittery...:eek

 

Now given that levy1 is still working on transitioning to a more modern high edge angle, high angulation I have tried to point him in the right direction.  And in this case i do NOT think that a cheater style 18-19m ski will actually help him.  The real sweet spot, in my humble (but informed) opinion is a 182/183 23m (or even 27m!) race stock GS.  My rationale behind this is that the 183, being the top end of the women's (old) FIS skis is a decently beefy ski that will handle his 185#.  It is also beefy enough that it can still to some extent be skied old school without folding up like a wet noodle and will still give him decent performance while letting him progress his technique to a more current approach (which is why I argued against going to the current 188/30 in a previous post - these skis really have to be skied on a high edge angle to make them perform) .    In this case i really do believe that the"cheater" will work against what Levy1 wants to achieve.  

 

**I should also add that the current Volk GS skis are most certainly NOT wimpy.  In fact, having owned/skied tested most of the current crop of 188/30 FIS (women's) GS skis, I would say that the Volkl may very well be my favorite of the bunch.

 

Oh, and as I said earlier to Levy1.  the GSR is NOT the same as the WC race stock!!   :) 


Edited by ScotsSkier - 6/30/14 at 9:49pm
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To be fair to Levy1, (I should add that I have exchanged a lot of PMs with him to try to help him in his search and i am sure he will not mind if I expand on this a bit) i do suspect that hius original 177 Volkl may be, shall we say, less than satisfactory for him. Volk race stock*** in the past, apart from the real deal race stock,  tended to be a bit softer than a lot of other race stock skis out there (and probably one reason why they were very popular with women).  To add to that he was on a 177 which really was designed more as an entry level race skis for girls and juniors.  And he was using it without a plate.  And he was trying to ski it old school. And he is 185#.  Start to see some issues there????.  Maybe with one or even 2 of these things in his favor it could have been workable, but in this case it was almost a full house stacked against him!!!!  

 

With the logical outcome....you try to ski what is to all intents a junior ski for ~ 100#  with almost double that weight....... and you don't roll the ski up inn edge the way it should be skied.... yeah, it is going to be like a wet noodle and skittery...:eek

 

Now given that levy1 is still working on transitioning to a more modern high edge angle, high angulation I have tried to point him in the right direction.  And in this case i do NOT think that a cheater style 18-19m ski will actually help him.  The real sweet spot, in my humble (but informed) opinion is a 182/183 23m (or even 27m!) race stock GS.  My rationale behind this is that the 183, being the top end of the women's (old) FIS skis is a decently beefy ski that will handle his 185#.  It is also beefy enough that it can still to some extent be skied old school without folding up like a wet noodle and will still give him decent performance while letting him progress his technique to a more current approach (which is why I argued against going to the current 188/30 in a previous post - these skis really have to be skied on a high edge angle to make them perform) .    In this case i really do believe that the"cheater" will work against what Levy1 wants to achieve.  

 

**I should also add that the current Volk GS skis are most certainly NOT wimpy.  In fact, having owned/skied tested most of the current crop of 188/30 FIS (women's) GS skis, I would say that the Volkl may very well be my favorite of the bunch.


That certainly sheds some light on the matter.  I take back what I said about skiing your Volkl race stocks; they aren't the race skis I thought they were.

post #9 of 10
So levy, if you're looking for confirmation of what SS says, I'll just pipe in that what been said makes very good sense. I'd follow his advice. And sign up for lots of coaching. It's going to take some significant changes in your skiing to really utilize what current ski design offers. Many of us have been there, so no, I don't think anyone is saying "he can't ski", jus t that as gear evolves, so must we.
post #10 of 10

Levy, just sent you an email, and a PM. FYI. Thanks.

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