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post #61 of 79
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Have you even driven one?
Yes I have. Driven my friends BRZ. Another friend had a 350Z when we were in high school and I drove that a few times.
post #62 of 79

I'll throw in one for Canada!  :D

post #63 of 79
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Yes I have. Driven my friends BRZ. Another friend had a 350Z when we were in high school and I drove that a few times.

So other then the engine, what is not sporty about a very well balanced and good handling chassis?

post #64 of 79
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So other then the engine, what is not sporty about a very well balanced and good handling chassis?
I guess it depends on your definition of sporty. I consider a sporty car to be one that is overall quick. Good chassis, good power, feels quick. The BRZ has a very good chassis that is begging for more, but the engine can't deliver. All show, no go. I have a feeling we will be seeing them smack a turbo on it and make a GT model in the next few years. I will be in line for a test drive when they do.
post #65 of 79
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Yes, it did get better but the original model only cranked out 150 hp right?  It was more of the 914-924 PorcheWagon type.  The 944S and turbo were quite a bit better.  I'd take a 928 over any of the pre S 944s any day, 


Pffttt...motorhead...  :D 

 

You know, I once saw a nice example of a 928S.  The young-ish driver had just failed to negotiate a right-hand corner with an island on the outside.  He'd neatly snapped off both wheels..various bits were broken...brake discs, a spring, ground off the bottom of the door...  He was sitting on the ground with his head in his hands.  And I remember thinking, good thing he wasn't in a 911!

 

The funny thing is both the RX-7 and the 240Z (not even going to talk about Scarabs) -i.e. two cars being touted here and in the value thread -  would spin quicker at speed than either a 911 or a 944 because they were completely aerodynamically unbalanced and couldn't keep their bums planted while cornering at anything over 60mph.

post #66 of 79
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Originally Posted by Rossi Smash View Post

$5k+ road bikes are not being used as energy efficient transportation.

they are for mostly posers and a few real racers and serious cyclists to ride.

You don't live around here, do you?
post #67 of 79
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You don't live around here, do you?

 





Nope, in the rural area I live, I occationally see one guy commuting by bike during the summer months. That's it.


All the bike use, and there is a LOT of it, is recreational.
post #68 of 79

Ha ha.  Where I live riding a bike on the street is downright dangerous.  Many people here don't think bicycles should even be allowed on the streets.  I would bike to work if my work place had a shower (I like to live dangerously).  It doesn't.

post #69 of 79

VW Phaeton

 

post #70 of 79
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You don't live around here, do you?

 





Nope, in the rural area I live, I occationally see one guy commuting by bike during the summer months. That's it.


All the bike use, and there is a LOT of it, is recreational.


Then it's probably better not to extrapolate your sample to a distant urban population. smile.gif. I see all types of bikes being ridden to work in Seattle... Always puzzles me when it's a 5-10k (or more) road bike, but maybe they're going for a ride after work or something. Benefit of the doubt thing.
post #71 of 79
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Then it's probably better not to extrapolate your sample to a distant urban population. smile.gif. I see all types of bikes being ridden to work in Seattle... Always puzzles me when it's a 5-10k (or more) road bike, but maybe they're going for a ride after work or something. Benefit of the doubt thing.

 




Damn I do miss the Met. Favorite steak place, period!
post #72 of 79
BMW Z3
Wouldn't say it totally sucked but compared to a Honda s2000 it does. I personally find 3/4 of it ugly which with its peformance and James Bond hyping leads me to put it in this thread.

I once said it was ugly to someone and it turned out he had worked on the design. He told me that after I had said the front end looked liked it was just designed for low cost production ( small 1/4 panels and almost all of it is a one piece hood), and the bulbous front looked like a snow plow.
I still find the front hideous.
post #73 of 79

1983 Cadillac Cimarron

 

2011 Smart fortwo

 

 

Aston Martin Cygnet

 

Mahindra.jpg

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Thread Starter 

 

 

/end thread!

post #75 of 79

My name is Tim....

 

 

post #76 of 79
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Subaru BRZ/Scion FRS....

 

 

yay or nay? 

 

 

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When I saw this thread, the above two were exactly the ones that came to mind. Nay.

 

I will disagree with you. I think these are going to have a Miata/240SX type cult following 10 years from now.

 

  • Tunable motor. CHECK
  • Rear Wheel Drive. CHECK
  • Good Balanced Handling. CHECK
  • Inexpensive. CHECK
  • Large selection of aftermarket parts. Check

 

I saw one of these and thought as hot as it gets here in the high desert summer, I would choose this over a comparable Miata. 

post #77 of 79

As tuner cars, perhaps. Out of the box, they rank a solid "meh"

post #78 of 79
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As tuner cars, perhaps. Out of the box, they rank a solid "meh"

But qualify under the saying "I'd rather drive a slow car fast than a fast car slow".

post #79 of 79
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But qualify under the saying "I'd rather drive a slow car fast than a fast car slow".


I dunno..I find it depends on the car.  I've thrashed a lot of cars..there is just no joy in beating on a Corolla.  There could not be a more miserable car to thrash on, except perhaps an early-ish Hyundai Accent.  OTOH, the Mazda Protege, 2002/2003 years, were not particularly fast but were eminently fun to thrash.  Most Civics are tossable.  Drove a Z06 Corvette..lovely car to drive slowly..surprisingly good ride for a car like that..to drive quickly, a little scary..rear-end very loose on the power..and not just because there's a lot of it..poor bump control on the gas..gearbox like a Mack truck.  Certain cars have a sweet-spot that makes them a joy to toss around, whether they're fast or slow.  Those cars are the gems.  Quick, flat turn in, generally neutral mid-corner but able to swap under to over steer if needed, not too much power understeer hopefully on the gas if it's a front-driver.  Steering feedback..ability to place the inside front on the apex consistently..all great characteristics.  I've found some of the newer cars with more sophisticated steering/front suspension lose some of the feel that lets you place the car as you wish.  Test drives are really important.

 

My only other bit of advice..it's a lot better to leave the road in a 4 wheel drift at 50mph than 150mph..so choose your car's g-level carefully if you intend to toss it around!!  :D

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