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post #181 of 205

I still want one of the purple and yellow full length duster coats that Dynastar did for their reps in the 90s.

 

 

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If I were starting a clothing company it would be Spanx. And I would now be a billionaire. If you want to solve a problem, keep women warm and put them in Spanx at the same time.

Selling insulated coats to dudes is something only dudes who don't want to work could come up with.

 

Well, I'm a dude and I like insulated jackets for one simple reason: I ski in Europe.

 

Due to the amount of vertical in the Alps, you can find yourself skiing a mountain that has a 20F temperature difference from top to bottom, sometimes pushing 30 degrees on a really big mountain in the right conditions. If you have to throw on a bunch of layers to handle the temperature at the top, then the vents from your shell won't cool you down enough to handle the temperature at the bottom (too many layers between your shell and your body blocking out the cool air). In that case, you'd have to choose between being cold at the top, sweating at the bottom, or skiing only a small range of altitudes to minimize the range of temperatures.

 

On the other hand, if you've got an insulated jacket, then the vents bypass that insulation when they're open. And, since you don't have to wear as many layers underneath an insulated jacket, that just makes the vents even more effective when you open them up. So, instead of constantly faffing about with layers or making the tough decision about which inconvenience you want to suffer, you just zip up as you make your way up the mountain and then slowly open the vents as you make you're way back down (rinse and repeat throughout the day). Easy peasy.

 

I've simply stopped using shells in sub-15F temps, for the same reason (vent/insulation mismatch).     Imagine having to muscle off your uninsulated shell because it's got a 2mm layer of sweat ice on the inside of it, freezing it to the midlayer.     No thanks, never again.

post #182 of 205
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I still want one of the purple and yellow full length duster coats that Dynastar did for their reps in the 90s.

 

Me too. Could join The Nasty Boys tag team!

 

 

 

 

Full disclosure, I have a leather duster already..


Edited by crgildart - 7/14/14 at 2:49pm
post #183 of 205
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Selling insulated coats to dudes is something only dudes who don't want to work could come up with.

Yep. Here's one, 97% Gaper.

A trifecta. Insulated jacket/pants, straight skis, rear entry boots. Can it get worse? See below for the one piece insulated.

 

Scott Schmidt

 

Upping the ante. Bring on the neon pastels. Here's Gaper #1 and another dude who doesn't want to work, Clueless #2:

 

Schmidt and Plake at Chamonix

 

One Piece in action. Keep those pockets zipped.

Super Gaper. White rear entries match the skis.

 

post #184 of 205

@Tog you always make me :D

 

But really, would you want to wear that ski clothing, given all the advances in ski clothing technology? 

post #185 of 205

My late 0.02:

 

- Warm (shells are only good from March onwards)

- Seamless/windproof

- Breathability 10k or above

- Pockets: at least 3 both inside and outside, including phone and goggle

- Cuff pass pocket

- Removable hood

- Wrist gaiters

 

I ski mostly in Europe and never wished I had I multilayer jacket.

post #186 of 205
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@Tog
 you always make me biggrin.gif

But really, would you want to wear that ski clothing, given all the advances in ski clothing technology? 
You're right.
Newerish school Gaper. -Seth Morrison

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All 75 were individually numbered hand signed by Seth Morrison. Built exclusively for outdoor expeditions the Oakley Expedition Down Jacket is going to keep you completely dry, warm and comfortable. Seth Morrison has demanded the best and Oakley delivered with the Expedition Down. With a Gore-Tex shell and 27k waterproof rating and fully taped seams there will be no water getting into this jacket which is going to keep you totally dry.

Filled with 750 power fill down insulation you will stay toasty warm when inside the Oakley Expedition Down Jacket and the fixed hood features the hood magnet system which will keep the hood out of your face should the weather not call for you to need your hood. Should things get a little too warm simply un-zip the pit vents to allow some of the cool, cold mountain air to flow through to cool things down a bit.
http://www.skis.com/Oakley-Expedition-Down-LTD-1-of-75-Hand-Signed-by-Seth-Morrison-Mens-Insulated-Ski-Jacket-2013/291666P,default,pd.html

Female Gaper. More Newerish School - Lynsey Dyer signature Down insulated jacket.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c_y4mwdfT_E&sns=em

http://www.womensgearguide.com/first-ascent-downlines-jacket/#sthash.HW1h2WaP.u6IVsSUL.dpbs
- apparently needs powder cuffs in the sleeves and the hood is strange.
post #187 of 205
Shell, detachable hood (I've only used a hood maybe 5 times in my life when skiing), pit zips, several small(ish) pockets on the outside and larger on the inside, the ability to tuck my face inside the zipped up collar for wind protection on lifts, waterproof zippers or good storm flaps. It must fit! I'm a 3x guy with layers and I'm quite often stuck with off brands or Columbia. So many good coats out there that just don't fit.

For pants I want a shell, articulated knees & hips with full side zips! Maybe a pocket or two but that's not a deal breaker.
post #188 of 205

Flaps over the zippers to keep moisture and rain out.  Why did they quit putting those covers over the zippers?

post #189 of 205
They now use waterproof zippers. Works great for wind, snow & water that doesn't freeze!
post #190 of 205
I wonder if the start up company that posted the question a year and a half ago is still around? In production?
post #191 of 205

They are. Luklaapparel.com  Looks like their first garments will be ready this fall. Raised $330K with a Kickstarter campaign. Will be interesting to watch. Crowded space. Not so easy to be the next Flylow, IMO. They're students at Miami of Ohio. Pretty gutsy endeavor……which is coincidentally the name of their first jacket. 

 

Good luck! Gotta admire going after it! 

post #192 of 205

Interesting.   I might just have to try an aerogel jacket soon.    

post #193 of 205
Report back.
post #194 of 205
It looks nice AND it's in my size! Would love to hear some reviews and how it fits because it looks slim and nobody in a 3x wants a sleeping n fit jacket. I'd prefer a shell though.
post #195 of 205
What do I want in a jacket? Pockets full of Benjamins. smile.gif
post #196 of 205

Luklaapparel.com, the nineties called. They want their Helly Hanson jacket back.

post #197 of 205
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They now use waterproof zippers. Works great for wind, snow & water that doesn't freeze!


Those YYK zippers were touted as waterproof way back to the late 1980s.  They used them on luggage, backpacks, tents, etc where exposed zippers get pounded outdoors all the time. I still prefer the rain flap over it, just like I still prefer the rain flap over it on the tent.  The "waterproof" marketing hype is just an excuse to make it sound better without the rain flap.  I don't care if it is a zip lock with duct tape and shoe goo under it.  Having the flap over it makes it more waterproof and more windproof.  But, it also costs quite a bit more for all of the labor and sewing involved to add that feature.  In fact, most of the current fashion is influenced by cost reduction over product function. 

post #198 of 205
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Those YYK zippers were touted as waterproof way back to the late 1980s.  They used them on luggage, backpacks, tents, etc where exposed zippers get pounded outdoors all the time. I still prefer the rain flap over it, just like I still prefer the rain flap over it on the tent.  The "waterproof" marketing hype is just an excuse to make it sound better without the rain flap.  I don't care if it is a zip lock with duct tape and shoe goo under it.  Having the flap over it makes it more waterproof and more windproof.  But, it also costs quite a bit more for all of the labor and sewing involved to add that feature.  In fact, most of the current fashion is influenced by cost reduction over product function. 

Hmm. I can't quite agree with that at all. There is a lot of weight savings in stripping that stuff down, which is the main point to me. It also costs more to sew more panels for shaping rather than to use just a big sack of material that "fits" but doesn't "fit."

 

http://www.backcountry.com/explore/unzipped-the-madness-the-method-and-the-man-behind-the-watertight-zipper

post #199 of 205
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Hmm. I can't quite agree with that at all.


Well then.....

 

post #200 of 205
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Well then.....

 


would absolutely buy that jacket.

post #201 of 205
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would absolutely buy that jacket.

no zippers at all

post #202 of 205
Zip lock?
post #203 of 205
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would absolutely buy that jacket.

no zippers at all

 

Erica Jong would be proud.

post #204 of 205
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Erica Jong would be proud.

:o I wasn't exactly thinking along those lines, but now that you mention it...

post #205 of 205

"
We don't need no stinking jackets."  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ql8jUMm9I4

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