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How should I tune my dad's skis?

post #1 of 18
Thread Starter 

Hi Gang -- I'm very pleased that I just purchased Josh Matta's MX83s for my dad.  (Thanks, Josh!)  

 

Anyway, I'm hoping to get some tuning tips from the wise men (and women) of this forum so I can maximize his enjoyment on his new skis.  He is not a strong carver, but that's what we'll be working on next season.  Rather, he prefers to amble his way through the mogul fields at Taos and Santa Fe (not a zipper line, but much more through the ruts).  

 

I was thinking that I'd detune the tips and tails a bit so they won't be hooky and will release a little easier.  Being TOTALLY EXTREME ;) I've never "detuned" my edges and have no idea how to do it or whether it's the right thing to do in my dad's case.  Anyone have any thoughts or tips?

 

Thanks! 

post #2 of 18
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Originally Posted by AlbuquerqueDan View Post
 

Hi Gang -- I'm very pleased that I just purchased Josh Matta's MX83s for my dad.  (Thanks, Josh!)  

 

Anyway, I'm hoping to get some tuning tips from the wise men (and women) of this forum so I can maximize his enjoyment on his new skis.  He is not a strong carver, but that's what we'll be working on next season.  Rather, he prefers to amble his way through the mogul fields at Taos and Santa Fe (not a zipper line, but much more through the ruts).  

 

I was thinking that I'd detune the tips and tails a bit so they won't be hooky and will release a little easier.  Being TOTALLY EXTREME ;) I've never "detuned" my edges and have no idea how to do it or whether it's the right thing to do in my dad's case.  Anyone have any thoughts or tips?

 

Thanks! 

Don't do it. If they have a clean true 1 degree base bevel they will not be hooky. 

post #3 of 18

If the skis have a good 1 and 2 on them I'd leave them alone. 

post #4 of 18

What they said.  A full 1 on the base is already "detuned" by today's standards.  They aren't intentionally dulled like the detuning of the old days, but that much base bevel is already pretty forgiving, 

post #5 of 18

@JoshMatta is probably meticulous in tuning, and most likely can tell you how he set them up.

post #6 of 18
Thread Starter 

Thanks, all!  They're set at .75/3, for what it's worth.  

 

I won't touch the tips, but would dulling the tails allow them to release a little better, especially for scarved turns in the mogul ruts?  

post #7 of 18

Detuning, real detuning, ruins the skis.  If you want them to be more forgiving and easy skiing have them tuned to a 1 base and 2 side instead of .75 and 3.  Do NOT dull anything.

post #8 of 18

You can go from the .75* to 1* easier than from the 3* side to a 2*. Start with the base tune and leave the side. De burr them and just keep waxing the $hit of them . 


Edited by Philpug - 6/20/14 at 7:03pm
post #9 of 18
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Originally Posted by Philpug View Post
 

You can go from the .75* to 1* easier than from the 3* side to a 1*. Start with the base tune and leave the side. De burr them and just keep waxing the $hit of them . 

Thumbs Up

 

Leave the side and change the base to a 1. 

 

A 1 base skis smooth as butter! totally able to skid 'em and sideslip!

 

You don't need no stinkin' detuning!:D

post #10 of 18

Wax them and leave it at this point, let him ski them.  If he likes it don't change a thing, if not see A-mans advice above just to make them a bit more forgiving.

post #11 of 18
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Originally Posted by oldschoolskier View Post

Wax them and leave it at this point, let him ski them.  If he likes it don't change a thing, if not see A-mans advice above just to make them a bit more forgiving.
I like this advice. As has been said, I'd assume Josh sold them with well-tuned edges in good shape, so deburr them if necessary (probably not), wax, wax, and wax some more, and see what Dad thinks. k
post #12 of 18
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Originally Posted by oldschoolskier View Post
 

Wax them and leave it at this point, let him ski them.  If he likes it don't change a thing, if not see A-mans advice above just to make them a bit more forgiving.

another vote for this. 

post #13 of 18

Leave them alone, and let him ski them.  If they are not forgiving/easy enough in the bumps for your dad, change the base to 1 degree.  Leave the side at 3.

post #14 of 18
+14

Just say no to detuning.

If you insist, I'll find some beaters for your dad to ski detuned and you can send me the Kastles. wink.gif
post #15 of 18

^^^^ If he doesn't like them, I would trade you for my Volkl P50 F1 Energy, tuned at 1 base 2 side; they are relatively bendy longitudinally forgiving and easy to slide sideways in bumps.:D

post #16 of 18
Thread Starter 

Thanks, gang.  Now I know why 1) I've never "detuned" a ski and 2) had no idea on how to even go about doing it.  It's a stupid, stupid thing to do.  I will forever banish that word from my vocabulary.  I think the old man is going to like these skis very, very much!  

 

BTW, if he hates them I'm  going to steal them.  So go away, you vultures! :D

post #17 of 18

I'm a big fan of de-tuning most straight skis from the last century.  Just don't do it to anything that is made to turn itself on edge..;)

post #18 of 18
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Originally Posted by crgildart View Post
 

I'm a big fan of de-tuning most straight skis from the 19th century.  Just don't do it to anything that is made to turn itself on edge..;)

FIFY :)

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