I've been trying to follow this thread but have been busy behind the scenes and am a little behind.
Originally Posted by SkiMangoJazz
I think in all activities there are some things that become so second nature that they don't need to be drilled.
I don't know where you draw the line in skiing as to what is a fundamental though? You pose very interesting questions LF.
When we walk for example there are some fundamental movements that we don't have to practice.
In skiing however I think the cliche'd "know your fundamentals" implies a lot more than just fundamentals, it implies, "know the movement patterns that I believe are the basic ones in skiing."
These vary depending upon the one determining if someone knows their fundamentals.
^^^^This is both enlightening and perplexing. I thought I was a natural at skiing and even signed up as an Advanced skier for the first ESA I attended. I could keep up with the guys on the steepest of runs at my local 400 ft vertical hills so I must be advanced, right?
After attending, I realized how much work I had to do, and am still doing. I barely turned, but I did change directions somewhat. I liked a heavy, stiff ski because it made me like a weeble, (weebles wabble but they don't fall down), I didn't use my poles EVER. I felt like I was a natural skier but I didn't have any of the fundamentals, but I had no clue. That was 7 years ago.
I have skied with a few of the folks who have talked a lot about being natural and pushing themselves by skiing with good skiers and charging challenging terrain. For the most part those people are really really good. I wish I skied as well as @segbrown ... I'm getting closer but wow, she's smooth.
To begin to imagine skiing with/like her and people like her, I took gobs of lessons and worked on gobs of issues, but the thing that really moved my skiing forward is getting my life in a place where my confidence improved and I got mileage on real terrain with good coaching and good skiers around me.
To that I'd say I'm a result of both worlds. Taking lessons to get some basics established, and skiing with folks better than me a lot.......an awful lot!
How many skiers are like I was and think they're advanced or expert but lack the skills?
And, how many skiers work on their skills at nauseam never believing that they have the skills to do things that are and have been in their bag of tricks?
I want to be that skier who is able to get out of my comfort zone to push myself to the next level without skiing recklessly or 'on the edge'.