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post #1 of 24
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From 9to5mac.com

 

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Besides a larger display and redesigned metal body, details regarding which features the next- generation iPhone models will pack have been light. However, it appears that the new models could include a new sensor: a barometer.

 

A barometer is a sensor commonly used for measuring altitude and the sensor is already commonly found in Android devices such as the Galaxy Nexus. A barometer sensor could be used by hikers, mountain climbers, bike riders, and enthusiasts who want accurate knowledge into their current altitude. Barometers, via air pressure data, also measure temperature and weather information.

 

The information regarding the next-generation iPhone likely including this sensor comes via Xcode 6 and iOS 8, the latest iPhone software development kit and operating system. The software includes updated CoreMotion APIs that clearly reference the new altitude measuring capabilities.

 

There are several applications on the App Store, even highlighted for the iPad by Apple on its own website, that can track altitude. However, this reference in Xcode 6 and iOS 8 is a new framework that is dedicated to altitude tracking and requires new Apple hardware, according to developers.

Current altitude tracking applications use the iOS Device’s existing GPS and Motion chips to track altitude, but a barometer is more accurate and quicker to load data as it is a dedicated chip for tracking. As can be seen in a secondary reference, the framework first checks if the iOS device supports altitude tracking:

 

Developer Ortwin Gentz from FutureTap pointed us to these references, and he tested the framework on an iPhone 5s, the latest-generation of the iPhone. According to Gentz, the framework returned a “No” to indicate that the iPhone 5s does not not support the reporting of altitude changes based on this new framework. With the help of a noted developer, we wrote our own code to test the framework and we received the same not-supported-by-the-iPhone-5s result. This likely indicates that this new altitude tracking functionality is reserved for unreleased Apple devices. Since the feature is packed into iOS 8, it is likely that the feature will be integrated to new products launching in the fall such as the iPhone 6, new iPads, and even the iWatch.

 

Additionally, with the help of Hamza Sood, we’ve located references to ambient pressure tracking in iOS 8. This plays into determining weather in addition to altitude. For instance, a barometer can analyze air pressure to determine incoming rain or sunshine, and this also could open up a new ecosystem of App Store applications for professionals like pilots and enthusiasts like mountain climbers. This weather functionality could potentially even connect to some sort of crowd-sourced weather project. The barometer will also extensively integrate with iOS 8′s new location tracking capabilities for indoor-mapping and determining what floor of a building a user is on.

 

An earlier rumor that indicated that the iPhone 6 could feature temperature and pressure sensors also said that the device could include a new humidity sensor. It is likely that the new sensors will become part of the iPhone 6′s M8 motion co-processor. The M8 will be a component of the A8 processor, which we previously reported is designed for improved efficiency and battery life, not for significant architectural changes like last year’s 64-bit A7 system-on-a-chip. Apple has indicated its vast interest in sensors, and the company has added new sensors to the iPhone, such as a gyroscope in 2010, over the past several years.

 

According to sources at Apple, the Cupertino-company has been working on an updated version of the Compass application that includes altitude tracking, so perhaps that application, which was originally added in 2009 alongside the iPhone 3GS, is what customers will utilize to track their altitude. Last year with iOS 7, Apple added a level feature to the Compass application along with a completely redesigned user-interface, and the updated Compass features were considered at the time of iOS 7′s development, so perhaps plans have changed by 2014 and the data will be presented via other means.

 

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Read more at http://9to5mac.com/2014/06/18/iphone-6-likely-to-sport-barometer-air-pressure-sensors-to-measure-altitude-weather/#EdfgFO3UGTTAKyMJ.99

 

 

Should be interesting if this integration is more accurate and consistent than some of the second party applications. 


Edited by Philpug - 6/25/14 at 9:08am
post #2 of 24

Interesting, yes. I have need of accurate altitude measurements, and I've found barometer based sensors on Suunto and similar watches to be garbage. You have to recalibrate incessantly to adjust for changes in local weather fronts; cold or warm air moving in can suddenly change your reading by hundreds of meters. If Apple can somehow develop software that compares barometric pressure to GPS, has good correction algorithms, they could synthesize a whole new mobile technology. Wonder if this fall's Apple watch will include this. 

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I can't really read past iPhone 6. After my 5 went for a swim and I have reverted to my VERY well used 4, I am more than ready for an upgrade. Although, a barometer WOULD be cool . . .

post #4 of 24

It might also have a smell my fart app :D

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I can't really read past iPhone 6. After my 5 went for a swim and I have reverted to my VERY well used 4, I am more than ready for an upgrade. Although, a barometer WOULD be cool . . .

My two year contracts are on the numbers, @Trekchick's are on the S's. 

post #6 of 24
I'll bite (like a true gaper) why do you need a barometer? Wx prediction or confirmation of a forecast? Altitude? Wouldn't a cheap GPS give you an accurate position thus altitude?
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Originally Posted by NovaLoafah View Post

I'll bite (like a true gaper) why do you need a barometer? Wx prediction or confirmation of a forecast? Altitude? Wouldn't a cheap GPS give you an accurate position thus altitude?

 

GPS's are notoriously bad at altitude, which is why the better handheld devices all have barometric height calculation, Which is exactly why a mobile phone also needs it if it is to compete in the accuracy stakes.

 

In general though, phone apps combine accurate position data with online topographic map information to override/correct the crappy altitude figures that the GPS recorded.

post #8 of 24
I don't use a smartphone.. yah, I know, old school, but I'm not worried about battery drainage and it only needs charging once a week.. But I do use an altimeter from Brunton. At the beginning of each season, I spend the first eight to twelve days making notes of the lifts I ride and comparing that total to the vert on the altimeter at the end of the day. If the difference is greater than five percent, I replace the battery. Normally, over the aggregate test period, the difference is between two and three percent. Good enough for me. Especially since the lift vert will always be less than skied vert if there are trail undulations. I'm sure adding an altimeter can only improve a phone app.

Just please don't post it on Facebook every day, I get enough garbage..
post #9 of 24
OK, thanks, for accurately tallying up your vertical. I really really need to take a trip West, utilize some of that TCC generated info.
post #10 of 24
Some people chart their car MPG.
post #11 of 24
I can just see it now:
"Mogul skiers ski more vert!"

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Especially since the lift vert will always be less than skied vert if there are trail undulations.

 

 

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Some people chart their car MPG.

 

Well, actually I chart a five-fillup floating average which eliminates per-fillup noise and  is far more useful for diagnosing steady trends or prob.....  <<   >>      :oops:

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I can't really read past iPhone 6. After my 5 went for a swim and I have reverted to my VERY well used 4, I am more than ready for an upgrade. Although, a barometer WOULD be cool . . .

Yeah, I am also ready for an upgrade and my 4 still works fine.  Verizon had offers for a "free" 5S, but I am waiting a few months for the 6.  It will be a lot easier to pay for stuff using the iPhone instead of carrying a wallet onto the slopes, assuming the ski areas figure this out.  Also, more after market lenses are coming out for the phones making them almost suitable to carry onto the mountains (the dynamic range will still suck).  These phones killed the low end of the camera market, and with the new SONY sensors that will be adapted to phones in the next few years the photography market will be hurting even more.  

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It will be a lot easier to pay for stuff using the iPhone instead of carrying a wallet onto the slopes, assuming the ski areas figure this out.  

And a lot easier for hackers to figure out your bank accounts too. 

post #14 of 24
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My two year contracts are on the numbers, @Trekchick's are on the S's. 

  CJ and I are on the numbers.

post #15 of 24
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From 9to5mac....

 

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5.5"                                               4.7"                                      Current 4" 5S

 

Recent rumors have suggested that Apple’s upcoming 5.5-inch iPhone 6 will now launch alongside the 4.7-inch iPhone later this year. A larger 4.7-inch display may be the sweet spot for a lot of users on both iOS and Android, but 5.5-inches is definitely up there in phablet territory.

Unsurprisingly, mockups of the 5.5-inch iPhone 6 have recently surfaced, and when compared to the 4.7-inch mockup or other 5.5-inch Android devices, it’s clear that this will be a massive iOS device. But how big is too big? If Apple plans to launch a device of this size, there are a few design changes that need to happen. Check out our comparison video for a closer look at the large 5.5-inch iPhone 6 mockup…

 

 

The main problem with this 5.5-inch dummy is that everything around the display is too big. I’m not talking about iOS though. These mockups just appear as if an iPhone 5s was put into Photoshop and proportionately enlarged. If Apple wants to make a sleek phablet, we need to do something about the spacing found on the top and bottom bezel.

Whether or not you’re a fan of the side bezels, the top and bottom portion of this mockup is what makes it unnaturally large. Even the LG G3 (which has a 5.5-inch display) is shorter than the 5.5-inch mockup. Even when compared to a new (and very large) Android device like the OnePlus One, this iPhone 6 dummy towers above it.

 

The only way this device won’t look awkward is if Apple adjusts the design a bit. Of course, all of these mockups are based on rumors, but I think it’s safe to safe that this mockup design is a bit odd. Regardless of opinion, these different sizes are interesting to look at and compare, but hopefully not exactly what we’ll see later this year.

Check out the gallery below (click to enlarge):

 

 

Looking to the 4.7 for my next phone, the 5.5 is just too big for me as a daily use phone. 

post #16 of 24
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From 9to5mac....

 

 

Looking to the 4.7 for my next phone, the 5.5 is just too big for me as a daily use phone. 

Yeah, better for the eyes and still small enough.  Hey, I might be on the Plume tomorrow...should know within a few hours.

post #17 of 24

I'm sorry, but I fail to see how the iPhone is 'ski gear' (or any other smartphone or tablet for that matter). 

 

Even if the argument is that more people want/need direct feedback on their speed, altitude, position or any other electronic measurement, I wouldn't trust some app. However fun they may be, for accurate measurement (like GPS positionining while touring, or timing during a race) that one might need while skiing, there are better gadgets for that than smartphones.

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I'm sorry, but I fail to see how the iPhone is 'ski gear' (or any other smartphone or tablet for that matter). 

 

Even if the argument is that more people want/need direct feedback on their speed, altitude, position or any other electronic measurement, I wouldn't trust some app. However fun they may be, for accurate measurement (like GPS positionining while touring, or timing during a race) that one might need while skiing, there are better gadgets for that than smartphones.

I can see your point but it is the off season, it is discussion and it IS a piece of gear/gadget that people have out on the slopes. Sorry, it stays. :o

post #19 of 24

No problem. Was just sayin'

 

Was just surprised that it was in the 'Ski Gear Discussion' forum.

post #20 of 24
It's not so much a out what current generation tech doesn't do well, but what next generation will do. The iWatch may well put it (as far as skiing/ location goes) all to rest.
post #21 of 24

Does anyone else compare tech specs on phones? If so, you know that the iphone is second class to most Androids nowadays. I have the older gen 4s, it was my first smartphone and has served me well. The newer phones do not impress me at all. 

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Does anyone else compare tech specs on phones? If so, you know that the iphone is second class to most Androids nowadays. I have the older gen 4s, it was my first smartphone and has served me well. The newer phones do not impress me at all. 

Is the iPhone the most technologically advanced phone? Probably not but as a Mac user, the seamlessness between my Macbook (which is a 2008) model and my iPad and Apple TV..everything is just easy. I never had a PC that lasted me 3 years let alone 8 like my Macbook. I will give up a bit of technology for the easy of how Apple products work so easy together. 

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Is the iPhone the most technologically advanced phone? Probably not but as a Mac user, the seamlessness between my Macbook (which is a 2008) model and my iPad and Apple TV..everything is just easy. I never had a PC that lasted me 3 years let alone 8 like my Macbook. I will give up a bit of technology for the easy of how Apple products work so easy together. 
I'm a Mac desktop/Android phone holdout; my only iOS device is an iPod Touch. For me it's all about the mobile OS, and IMO the Android OS is more like the Mac desktop than iOS can ever be. My iMac is hugely customizable, as is my Droid 4G, but IMO where Android is flexible, fast on most devices, and can multi-task, iOS is clunky, stiff, and limited. Practically speaking the Android OS has readability options that are missing on iOS, which has unreadable text for your average middle aged eyes.

It's too bad, because I'd love to ditch the iPod and my iMac and Apple TV remotes and have my phone integrated with my home system, but that just shows how inferior iOS is for someone who values desktop performance over ease of integration.
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Is the iPhone the most technologically advanced phone? Probably not but as a Mac user, the seamlessness between my Macbook (which is a 2008) model and my iPad and Apple TV..everything is just easy. I never had a PC that lasted me 3 years let alone 8 like my Macbook. I will give up a bit of technology for the easy of how Apple products work so easy together. 

No dispute there, I have Macbook pro that will turn 3y.o. in about a month. Wouldn't trade it for any PC, ever. The only component that needed replacing was a graphics card which is fairly common problem, especially when running more involved programs. My parents have the apple tv and it is great for sharing adventures or catching up. Compatibility is a big deal to me as well, and it is probably the reason I will sucker myself into another iphone. Just stinks since my 2yr plan is up now…Hmm do I wait it out for the 6, or Xperia Z2?

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