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Changing to 3 degrees side edges using the EDGE Tuner Pro?

post #1 of 7
Thread Starter 

Firstly, yes, this is a summer thread... :-)

 

After reading some of Atomicman's excellent threads and posts here, he has convinced me to change all of the angles on my skis (piste, all mountain, and powder), to be 3 degrees, base is untouched at 1 degrees. The side edges on all 3 skis have been 2 degrees up until this point.

 

I am an advanced skiier in Norway, and usually meet pretty much all conditions on an average day - some powder, icy groomed runs, and a delightful (and unpredictable) mix of everything in between.

 

As for tuning tool, I have been using the TOKO Edge Tuner Pro to keep the side edges sharp at 2 degrees, and it has been a handy little tool to do this. Now, I am considering using the same tool to change the side edges on my skis to be 3 degrees. Is it a good idea for me to do this myself (considering the tool I have), or should get them done the first time professionally to be 3 degrees?

 

The tool in question looks like this:

 

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Any advice is much appreciated.

post #2 of 7

I have never used the tooll so I can only say I prefer a fixed guide with a 100mm file.

 

And thanks for the recognition!

Much appreciated!

post #3 of 7
Thread Starter 

So, what do you think? Is it a bad idea for me to do this myself with the tool that I have?

 

I have used it for a few seasons now, and it always gives a great edge.

 

Thanks

post #4 of 7

You would need a file to set the edge. If you only use the tool with stones, stones won't set the edge, they'll just maintain it.

 

Get a file, if you haven't one (I'm sure A-man has recommended some elsewhere), a pair of throw away skis and try it. If the skis are in bad shape, use a stone freehand to remove any burrs or other overt damage to the edges. If the tool works with the file, then proceed to your own skis. It won't matter if you get it right as the skis are for tuning-training purposes only.

 

On your on skis, you'll have a clean 2* edge to start with and you'll be able to watch the 3* bevel 'erase' the 2* bevel with each pass. You'll also need to be sure you have enough space for the file to work without hitting the sidewall as your file will be angled closer to the ski than with the 2* bevel.

 

Good luck.

post #5 of 7
Get a steel 3* edge guide and a panzr file and a shapie marker.

Clamp the ski in the vises, use the sharpie to ink the metal edge.

clamp the panzr tothe guide, pull the file from tip to tail or tail to tip depending on if your right/lefthanded and which side edge your doing, watch the ink dissappear as you cut the metal.

The metal edge doesn't care how you cut it. I do both ways on all my skis, what ever side is easier.

Then use your toko tool with a diamond stone to polish the edge. Oh use the 50/50 water denatured alchol to lube the diamond stone.

Remember this works better if you start with flat base.
Edited by Max Capacity - 6/20/14 at 3:53am
post #6 of 7
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by MastersRacer View Post
 

You would need a file to set the edge. If you only use the tool with stones, stones won't set the edge, they'll just maintain it.

 

Get a file, if you haven't one (I'm sure A-man has recommended some elsewhere), a pair of throw away skis and try it. If the skis are in bad shape, use a stone freehand to remove any burrs or other overt damage to the edges. If the tool works with the file, then proceed to your own skis. It won't matter if you get it right as the skis are for tuning-training purposes only.

 

On your on skis, you'll have a clean 2* edge to start with and you'll be able to watch the 3* bevel 'erase' the 2* bevel with each pass. You'll also need to be sure you have enough space for the file to work without hitting the sidewall as your file will be angled closer to the ski than with the 2* bevel.

 

Good luck.

 

I guess you are right here... I definately need to cut "some" of the sidewall back a touch, as the tool doesn't seem to catch the edge enough.

 

I'll report back in a bit after I have bought a sidewall planer...

 

Here goes...:-)

post #7 of 7
Just go easy at first, you'll get a feel for it. You don't need to take off much, may be the width of your figure nail or a little more. You can always take more off...you can't put it back on.
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