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post #31 of 97
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Well Old Goat you may be right, but I did start my OP with "We may be dreaming..."  Truckee is a nice town.

 

 

Only 3 hrs from Squaw at 9am on a stormy holiday weekend;)

post #32 of 97
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Are you really sure you want to give up on Eden?  I have not seen much impact from the Summit group yet except an excellent apres ski show by the Wailers this winter.  I only see them bringing more culture to this sleepy valley

I agree and I wouldn't be surprised if they don't even own Powmow in five years.
Seems like a silly reason to knock it off your list entirely.
post #33 of 97

I love these threads, I've spent countless hours on google maps checking out various places. Originally I thought I would want a second home but the reality of long distance ownership just seems too daunting. We are not condo people so that option is out.

 

My Florida crib is everything I would want, I've lived here for 40 plus years and I might suffer a terminal decline if separated from my "roots". Yes it's hot but you get used to it. I can swim my open water miles right behind the house in April without a wetsuit.

 

So if leaving is not an option and a second home is not an option that leaves extended trips to different places depending on circumstance. We have a month in Whitefish planned for next season, Sandpoint ID is on the short list too. I also like the look of Glenwood Springs CO, Steamboat and the northern end of the SLC area. Aspen would be perfect if I win the lottery.

 

My requirements are:

A real town not just a resort.

Reasonable crowds (no lift lines on weekdays)

Monthly accommodations in the 1500-2500 range. At least one separate bedroom (I snore!)

Less than 30 minutes to the nearest mountain, bonus points for alternatives.

Cheap passes. Decent food. Unpretentious locals.

 

Whitefish is all that minus the sunshine so that's where we start...

post #34 of 97

Skierish has a great mountain and great town with Sandpoint.  You have Schweitzer, the lake. a couple of mountain ranges to play in, a bunch of rivers, 3 states, 2 countries, and several nice cities close and a pile of other ski areas to go to for a change.

 

Whitefish is a really great place and I love it.  A few things that are a bit of a challange for retireing in.  Kind of a pain to get to. A slog to get to a city for: healthcare, entertainment shopping and the like. A slog to other ski areas. Spokane is about 1 hour away from Sandpoint, and it has all the city stuff when you need it (a lot of Missoula people will go here to shop).

 

If you are going to Whitefish you really do owe it to yourselves to spend a day in Sandpoint area.

 

[edit by Goldmember to clarify second paragraph]

post #35 of 97
Well, @crank should rent a place for a month and get check it out for a longer visit. Kalispell Regional Hospital is growing. I've never needed it, North Valley has been sufficient, but someday I might need to go to Kalispell.. Or even Seattle. Hope not.

What's entertainment shopping? Seriously? Point click. Like you need a mall? Really don't understand the whole concept. I hate shopping. Was a catalog shopper before the internet. If I go to the box stores in Kalispell, I'm good for three and I'm outta there.
post #36 of 97
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1:15 to Mt. Baker Ski Area, 2:20 to Stevens Pass, 2:45 to Whistler/Blackcomb, and about a 5 hour drive to the interior B.C. resorts.

Please... 7.2 miles of traffic free roads from the center of Whitefish to the resort. He said he didn't want a city. 80000 is a city.

They're looking for a place to retire.  Skiing was only one of the criteria, there were several others.  Many of them are superior in Bellingham.  I manage to ski about 50 days per year and would not want to trade a closer position to the mountains for the other amenities I get from this location, therefore I recommended it for his consideration.

 

I was not aware that we were trying to one-up each other.  The OP asked for options.

post #37 of 97
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Well, @crank should rent a place for a month ...
Best advice so far. Take your top 3-4 places and hit them each over the next few years. Talk to locals.
post #38 of 97

Quote:Originally Posted by 4ster View Post

 

 

Are you really sure you want to give up on Eden?  I have not seen much impact from the Summit group yet except an excellent apres ski show by the Wailers this winter.  I only see them bringing more culture to this sleepy valley:

 

:dunno

JF

 

We just moved to Eden for the summer/fall while we are having a house built just on the other side of Snowbasin in Mountain Green. We dig it even more than we thought we would! The people here seem to genuinely enjoy sharing their passion for the outdoors and we have been welcomed with open arms and invited to do all kinds of stuff already (we've been here just over a week.) Events at Snowbasin all summer (brewfest in the fall? Yes, please!) Easy to buzz into Ogden for shopping, dining, etc. And no traffic! Our criteria was a job market for my husband, which he found at Hill AFB.

 

That being said, Sandpoint and Schweitzer are pretty nice! Too small for us with no jobs, either.

post #39 of 97

Crank, good thread.  I think a whole lot of places will work.  Just make sure your GF is onboard with final pick.  That is the key to your happiness.

post #40 of 97
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Crank, good thread.  I think a whole lot of places will work.  Just make sure your GF is onboard with final pick.  That is the key to your happiness.

James, she has to be... She is the one who will be buying the property!  I live on a big sailboat that we plan on keeping down in FLorida and the USVI which will be another "residence" and will provide an escape from the frozen north country.

post #41 of 97
And skiing is just as important to her as it is to you? Sounds like a huge puzzle bit that maybe we need. Was she here with you last winter?
post #42 of 97
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Check out the Carson Valley area just south of Carson City, NV. There is the great skiing and recreation of Lake Tahoe, Reno and  Reno International are about 45 miles away and the moderate high desert weather is quite moderate.

 

If you want a little more remote you can look at Pocatello, ID. This is the home of Idaho State Univ. There is a decent local ski area a few minutes from town called Pebble Creek. Grand Targhee and Jackson Hole are about 2.5 hours, Ogden, UT, is less than 2 hours, SLC International is around 2.5 hours and Sun Valley, Id, is around 3 hours. The weather is more 4 season than the Carson Valley, but still not as extreme as living in a resort community. They get about 45 inches of snow per year.


I lived in Pocatello for 9 years and there is no way I would retire there.  Although it is true that Pebble Creek is nearby and you can drive to JH and SLC easily, the wind blows incessantly and when it isn't blowing there is a fair amount of pollution from the industrial complexes west of town. 

post #43 of 97
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I love these threads, I've spent countless hours on google maps checking out various places. Originally I thought I would want a second home but the reality of long distance ownership just seems too daunting. We are not condo people so that option is out.

 

Single family homes are actually less daunting than a condo.  Put all your utilities, insurance,  etc., on autopay,  find a good manager/caretaker and you are captain of your own domain.

Condo's you have to deal with a lot of different personalities on the board/HOA, that have different agendas.

 

Condo's can be a little easier to short term and sometimes have amenities that you couldn't afford otherwise, ie. pool, ski in/out.  But you end up paying for that extra layer management.

 

In my experience, owning the dirt has a better ROI.

post #44 of 97
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I lived in Pocatello for 9 years and there is no way I would retire there.  Although it is true that Pebble Creek is nearby and you can drive to JH and SLC easily, the wind blows incessantly and when it isn't blowing there is a fair amount of pollution from the industrial complexes west of town. 


Thanks for the info. Its location/affordable RE/university/local skiing put it on my potential retirement area list.

post #45 of 97
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And skiing is just as important to her as it is to you? Sounds like a huge puzzle bit that maybe we need. Was she here with you last winter?

Skiing is just as, if not more,  important to her.  Yes we were together in Whitefish last winter and she is the one who wanted to visit this summer to check things out further.  Believe me, I would not push her or anyone into something they did not want to do.  Were it just me I would probably be looking in VT just because I love VT and I would prefer to stay close to the east coast.


Edited by crank - 6/11/14 at 2:47pm
post #46 of 97
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Originally Posted by Fuller View Post

 

So if leaving is not an option and a second home is not an option that leaves extended trips to different places depending on circumstance. We have a month in Whitefish planned for next season, Sandpoint ID is on the short list too. I also like the look of Glenwood Springs CO, Steamboat and the northern end of the SLC area. Aspen would be perfect if I win the lottery.

 

My requirements are:

A real town not just a resort.

Reasonable crowds (no lift lines on weekdays)

Monthly accommodations in the 1500-2500 range. At least one separate bedroom (I snore!)

Less than 30 minutes to the nearest mountain, bonus points for alternatives.

Cheap passes. Decent food. Unpretentious locals.

 

Whitefish is all that minus the sunshine so that's where we start...

 

Plus, it's only a short distance north from Whitefish (or Sandpoint) to Cat and Heli Ski Central - i.e., interior BC.

post #47 of 97
Within three hours, there are also Fernie, Blacktail, Montana Snowbowl, and Turner. It would be nice if they were a bit closer, but they are day trip material.
post #48 of 97

I'm Canadian so my vote doesn't count for much. FWIW I really, really like the town of Whitefish. It's everything Fernie would like to be but better. The ski hill is satisfactory especially for intermediates (don't be offended Sib)  although not as good expert terrain as Fernie 2 hours away or Castle 4 hours away. However you have to like what's available the other 8 months of the year and Whitefish is awesome in the summer. Did anybody mention Glacier National Park? 

If you were Canadian the first place I would look would be Rossland just down the road from Red and, incidentally, not that far from Spokane.

post #49 of 97

Here is something to consider that Maui Steve said in another thread:  "Also, on picking a place to buy, where you buy may be highly dependent on whether you intend to rent to vacationers or not. My place in Park City is in an area that is easy to rent to tourists. That is only because I need to rent it for financial reasons. If I didn't need to rent, I would want to buy in an area where locals live, and doesn't allow vacation rentals. I have learned from Maui that living where the tourists are gets old." 

post #50 of 97
No problems. There is no Corbett's. It's got great cruising. And, crank and his girlfriend liked it when they came. (As I recall, it was the trees they took a liking to.) Not everyone needs terrain you can die on to be happy.
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I'm Canadian so my vote doesn't count for much. FWIW I really, really like the town of Whitefish. It's everything Fernie would like to be but better. The ski hill is satisfactory especially for intermediates (don't be offended Sib)  although not as good expert terrain as Fernie 2 hours away or Castle 4 hours away. However you have to like what's available the other 8 months of the year and Whitefish is awesome in the summer. Did anybody mention Glacier National Park? 
If you were Canadian the first place I would look would be Rossland just down the road from Red and, incidentally, not that far from Spokane.
post #51 of 97

Less than 3 hours from Sandpoint is Silver Mt., Red Mt., and Whitewater.

 

AND, new residents are also given a free pony on arrival!  ;)

post #52 of 97
@crank, this place has a generous-sized lot, near me, just a tad closer than me to town and hill. Great views!! No danger of a highway being put in near by. Established neighborhood. Close to hiking trails. No danger of flooding, it's above town. There are homes on smaller lots in town, but some are pretty close to the railyard.


http://u.zillow.com/p2JyOgP
post #53 of 97
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@crank, this place has a generous-sized lot, near me, just a tad closer than me to town and hill. Great views!! No danger of a highway being put in near by. Established neighborhood. Close to hiking trails. No danger of flooding, it's above town. There are homes on smaller lots in town, but some are pretty close to the railyard.


http://u.zillow.com/p2JyOgP

Just for comparison that house would be double the price in Fernie although with the Canadian $ on the downslide it might just even out;)

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post #55 of 97
$309/sq.ft. Although mysteriously the math on the listing is $268.

Compared to $136.

I wonder what the tax differences are? Found them.. $3100 here, compared to less than a grand for Steamboat, but $.89/sq.ft. compared to $.94, so quite comparable, tax-wise...
Edited by sibhusky - 6/11/14 at 7:04pm
post #56 of 97

Consider Bozeman MT. College town. Lower elevation valley with spring and fall. Great Local hill ( Bridger) a short drive, major resort (big sky) an easy hour away  its not a resort town but maybe more loveable long term.

post #57 of 97

We're retired and live between the town of Taos and Taos Ski Valley, on the high desert off of the Ski Valley Road.  The biggest thing you have to figure out about retirement is money, what you can afford and what you're willing to spend.  

 

Location is important because the things you would put up with when you're 35 or 40, you don't want to be concerned with you're over 60.  We've owned alpine land for many years and we considered building on it, but we finally decided we wanted to live on the desert.  Flat is nice, as is less snow in the winter.  The easy drive to the ski valley is only 14 miles, less to town.

 

We live in an adobe house with a boiler and hot water radiant heat.  Our yearly natural gas bill runs around $600, which includes, heat, hot water and cooking.  Our electric bill is cheaper because we don't have or need AC.  Property taxes are low.  NM has a sales tax and state income tax.

 

Taos has been around for a 1000 years.  I believe climate is one of the reason for that.  It has a good music scene led by KTAO solar radio.  Taos is not a ski town.  It is an old town known for its art community with a great ski resort nearby.  Santa Fe is only a 1 1/2 hour drive, Albuquerque is another hour after that.  Like all Rocky Mountain areas, there is fabulous hiking.

 

Taos is remote.  You have to want to be there.  It is the kind of place where you don't get bothered by anybody unless you want to.  It has everything from the new billionaire owner of Taos Ski Valley, famous Hollywood stars like Julia Roberts, but it is mostly just regular people enjoying life.

 

I can't think of a better place for retirement.

 

PS:  We don't have mosquitoes (no standing water) or fleas (humidity is too low for them to reproduce above ground).  Makes it nice for outside BBQ's and the dogs.


Edited by MJB - 6/13/14 at 8:15am
post #58 of 97

About eight years ago my wife and I started looking at places to retire.  I stumbled across a website called findyourspot.com.  Unlike most retirement planners this one went into a great deal of detail asking my preferences.  When I finished the survey it brought up about a dozen suggestions with Durango at the top of the list.  Sandpoint, ID also ranked very high. 

 

We took a trip out west and spent time in Bozeman, Missoula, Kalispell, and Sandpoint before heading home.  Frankly, they were all nice but Sandpoint (Schweitzer Mountain) was my favorite.  Shortly after that both our jobs were eliminated and we started new employment putting retirement plans on hold.  Now that we're getting close to retirement for good, we'll probably keep our residence in New England but travel extensively.

 

I just took the FindYourSpot survey again just to see what they recommend. Here are my results.  It actually brought up 24 picks.   Click on any town to see the report.  If any of you take the survey, please post your top picks.  I'd be curious which town gets the most attention.

 

Leadville, CO

Coeur d'Alene, ID

Dillon, MT

Helena, MT

Springville, UT

Wenatchee, WA

Durango, CO

Grand Junction, CO

Kalispell, MT

Livingston, MT

Cedar City, UT

Sheridan, WY

Divide, CO

Telluride, CO

Bozeman, MT

Tooele-Grantsville, UT

Leavenworth, WA

Metaline Falls, WA

Palmer, AK

Driggs, ID

Moscow, ID

Estes Park, CO

Sun Valley, ID

Ketchum, ID


Edited by patmoore - 6/13/14 at 9:19am
post #59 of 97
Thread Starter 

I just filled out the find your spot quiz.  Interesting site, I did not know it existed.  

 

I have been to Taos once and loved it.  Very interesting part of the world with the Native America, Spanish and American pioneer cultures all coming together.  I was there for a work project with Michael Martin Murphy (Wildfire) who had, probably still has, a small ranch there.  I was able to stay and ski for a few days as well.  I am not sure if the desert is right for us but it is a wonderful place and I want to go back.

post #60 of 97

Did the find my spot 

 

Top were Durango, Sandpoint and Bozeman.

 

Obviously didn't put in a high enough budget to get offered Aspen but surprised that some places like Glenwood Springs or anywhere in the wider Tahoe area didn't pop up.  Leavenworth did - obviously thought I had a thing for faux Bavaria. Think it weights heavily toward college towns if you express any mild preference for that sort of stuff.

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