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Twisted Skis: How Bad for Performance

post #1 of 5
Thread Starter 

This is an offshoot of some of the discussion in this thread (I didn't want to threadjack):

 

http://www.epicski.com/t/88371/ski-stiffness-index

 

Question: How much twist in a ski (static i.e. the ski is permanently deformed so the bases aren't flat and can't be made flat with grinding) would you consider to be ok?

 

At what point would you decide that the ski has served it's life and it is time to replace?

 

I have had two pairs of Salomon's twist. The first pair was the first year of the Super Force 9 3s in PR8 or 9 (which ever was the longest available) and put base to base the tails are separated along one edge by about 1-cm. This pair of skis had probably 200 days on them at retirement. 

 

The second pair, my current daily driver, is a Shogun 182-cm (second year of production) and the tails are separated by about 5-mm and the tips are separated by about 3-mm both on the same side i.e. both inside edge or both outside edge. This pair of skis has around 100 days. These skis definitely skied better the first two years of their life and depending on the snow conditions they often feel like I am fighting a bad tune. I have several other pairs of skis with similar dimensions (184-cm Goliath Sluff, 179-cm Seth Vicious [first year with rocker]) and never felt this sensation.

 

To me, I can feel the change in flex/pop as the skis age but I don't know if I can feel any issues (if any) associated with a twisted ski. I assume it would feel like a bad tune, base high on one side and edge high on the other. Any thoughts?

post #2 of 5
If you can tell right from left, I'd junk them.
post #3 of 5
Thread Starter 

They definitely feel symmetric in that inside edge feels the same from ski to ski but if I switch them left to right they feel different. Kind of like have a powder tune and an ice tune on the same set of skis, or practice edges and race edges on a set of race skis.

post #4 of 5

While some ski brands have a reputation for longevity, Salomon isn't one of them. With 100 days on a Shogun I'd say it was done.

post #5 of 5

None.

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