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post #91 of 119

Looking lot's of fun to be had!

post #92 of 119
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Originally Posted by AltitudeAdjust View Post

Thanks for the report Vladski,
Keep us updated if you don't mind. I would love to know how the off piste conditions are.

Okay, so my last 2 days at Bariloche were heavy fog turning into sunny dust on crust.

However, yesterday conditions took a significant turn for the better:
http://snowbrains.com/bariloche-conditions-report-mini-powder-day/

Seems like you are going to have more fun than I had there last week. Enjoy, and dont miss that boat trip on Nahuel Huapi lake, coupled with a visit to hotel Llao Llao.
post #93 of 119

Vladski, thanks for all the great info! I will definitely check out that boat trip and the hotel on my off days from skiing

post #94 of 119

Finally some stoke!

 

A Sept. 3 dated report from Las Lenas: snow depths of 45/60/135cm with 35/50/40cm new snow.

A friend got very lucky with his 2 weeks in Argentina. He waited out his first week around Buenos Aires, went skiing this week when he says Las Lenas has received 2 meters of snow up high. Better yet, Marte opened today!

Portillo got 20 inches the last 48 hours, season total now 176.3 inches.

SnowBrains has an enthusiastic review of a new skiing option in Argentina: http://snowbrains.com/real-patagonia-ba ... at-skiing/

post #95 of 119

When does the ski season usually end in South America? It looks like you're getting some late season goodness :beercheer:

From Ski Portillo

post #96 of 119

First weekend of October is a fairly normal closing date in South America.  It will be earlier this season if the snowfall does not continue.  It's close analogy to destination resorts closing early April here. 

 

The longest lift served Southern Hemisphere season (early Nov) is generally Turoa on the SW side of Mt. Ruepehu in New Zealand.  North Island NZ is likely the only local population base that can support late season lift service.  The Aussies would, but the Spencer Creek data shows that their snowpack just doesn't last through October. Sort of like the most of the Northeast here.

post #97 of 119

Couple ski areas were saved by these late season storms at least for a few weeks.  Las Lenas closed mid Sept. last year irc.

post #98 of 119
Thread Starter 

This has been a bellow average winter for most of South America... BUT the Chillan / Corralco / Caviahue region keeps getting huge storms every week since June!

 

My guess is that these Resorts recorded more than 400 inches this season.

 

Some stoke just released by Chillan:

 

post #99 of 119

I just received an email from Portillo and they have extended their season to the 28th of September due to the half meter of snow they received lately. I can't find much for the other resorts, although Valle Nevado published a closing date as of the 26th of September some time ago. My experience is that they announce the date around this time depending on snow conditions, especially in a year like this one with so little snow. Chillan and Corralco should go into October with no problema.

post #100 of 119
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Chillan and Corralco should go into October with no problema.

I'm sure they have the snow, but where's the population base to patronize them in spring?  When do they usually close?

post #101 of 119

There's not much of a population base to support either resorts in the winter, let alone the spring. Corralco responded to my consultation on their Facebook page that they will be open "at least until October 13th".

post #102 of 119

I guess I hadn't thought much about the population that supports skiing in that area.  I guess there is a different density of folks who think snow. 

 

At least you're getting some snow for the end of season. 

post #103 of 119

I understand your point behind the question. Even in the years that Utah has a lot of snow, and with the very ski/snowboard enthusiastic population of SLC that's just down the mountain, the slopes start to empty out starting in late March. At least that's what I remember from the 80's, when I lived there. Everyone wants to enjoy the sun and play golf, tennis and other warm weather sports and activities. I honestly don't know how Corralco makes any money. We were there during what should be one of the busiest weeks of the year, during the school winter break, and I never saw more than 5 or 6 people waiting to get on a lift. In the three resorts here in Santiago, during those dates the place is a total zoo. I guess there will always be Brazilians and Argentines, plus Euros and North Americans that travel even later in the season. Just a couple of weeks ago the French national team was training there, so that obviously helps bring in revenue.

 

Unfortunatelly, I won't be enjoying the late season down there. It's too long of a haul and I have other trips coming up. Too bad we received so little snow in the central region so I could get out for just the day.

post #104 of 119
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I guess I hadn't thought much about the population that supports skiing in that area.

Considering that Telluride, Taos, Crested Butte, Whitefish, Red Mt. and Whitewater routinely close first weekend of April, I'm pleasantly surprised Corralco can go one week equivalent later than that.

 

How late do the areas close to Santiago stay open in big years like 2002 and 2005?

post #105 of 119

I can't say when they closed in those seasons, but I can't remember them ever staying open into October. There just is no interest after the 18th of September, which is Chile's Independence Day. That's the last hurrah for the resorts in terms of visits and then everyone heads to the beaches.

post #106 of 119

Sure wish Corralco was closer to Santiago. Check out the forecast for this week...

 

 

 

That's 3 ft of snow with cold temps!! They just announced that the last day of the season is the 13th of October. 

post #107 of 119
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Sure wish Corralco was closer to Santiago. Check out the forecast for this week...

 

 

 

That's 3 ft of snow with cold temps!! They just announced that the last day of the season is the 13th of October. 

Looks like spring storms are on the menu!

 

For some reason the image is not showing up correctly so I did a quick screen shot of it from the editor. 

post #108 of 119
Thread Starter 

Corralco has been getting these 2-3 feet storms, almost every week since June!!!

 

It would be interesting to know their snow record for the 2014 season.

post #109 of 119
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Originally Posted by Thiago View Post
 

Corralco has been getting these 2-3 feet storms, almost every week since June!!!

 

It would be interesting to know their snow record for the 2014 season.

:popcorn

post #110 of 119
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It would be interesting to know their snow record for the 2014 season.

It would be interesting to know any South American ski area snow record for any season.  Good luck finding it anywhere but Portillo, which is American-managed.

post #111 of 119

Are you enjoying your first day of spring? 

SnowBrains said that you're getting a little snow.  :D

http://snowbrains.com/watch-20-seconds-dumping-snow-today-bariloche-argentina/

Video of dumping Bariloche, Argentina 

 

post #112 of 119

The US GS team was there last week (they are still there and training was cancelled today - hope they're skiing poder).

 

Thiago,

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It would be interesting to know their snow record for the 2014 season.

not sure what you mean by "record" for the 2014 season, but if you are referring to total snowfall, on their Facebook conditions report from this morning they report 385 cm (152 inches).12,5 feet doesn't seem like much of a record to me, but like Tony commented, there's not much with which to compare. It was a good season down there, of this there can be no doubt.

post #113 of 119
Thread Starter 

Yes, I was refering to total snowfall for the 2014 season.

 

I saw their facebook reports, and I think they mean 385 cm (152 inches) of non groomed snow base, and 300 cm is their groomed snow base.

On September 22 they had 373 cms, then September 23 they reported 10cms of fresh snow and the base climbed only 2 cms going to 375 cms... :dunno

 

It would be very improbable for Corralco to claim a 300 cms groomed base, if it had snowed only 385 cms YTD.

post #114 of 119

A 3 meter (118 inches) base usually implies 350-400 inches snowfall depending on density.  This is one way you can call :bs: on areas that claim to get 400 inches, but the base depths max out at 60 or 70 inches.

post #115 of 119
Thread Starter 

Interesting information, my guess is that Corralco and possibly Chillan already got 350 - 400 inches on their upper slopes this season.

 

 

By the way, Corralco reported another 20 inches (50 cms) this morning.

Their base today.

post #116 of 119

I've asked the question of how much total snowfall they have received this season on four separate Facebook posts from Corralco and no response yet. They answered the other questions I posted within 24 hours, so I guess they don't have or don't want to publish this data. I can't, for the life of me, understand why they wouldn't.

post #117 of 119

TISA.  They can't publish what they haven't bothered to measure every day AND retain the records for the whole season.

post #118 of 119

It's hard to believe that that would be the case. The GM is an American from Vermont, by the name of Jimmy Ackerson (https://www.linkedin.com/profile/view?id=19180832&authType=NAME_SEARCH&authToken=uxhr&locale=es_ES&trk=tyah&trkInfo=tarId%3A1411842592126%2Ctas%3Ajames%20ackerson%2Cidx%3A1-2-2), and was the GM at Valle Nevado before moving to Corralco, after working as the Director of Marketing & Sales at VN and at Portillo. Something so simple as saving a piece of data that they publish constantly just doesn't make sense. I sent Mr. Ackerson an request to be a contact in LinkedIn so I can ask him directly, so we'll see what happens.

post #119 of 119
Obviously it would be great if Corralco would become an exception to the usual sorry state of South American snow reporting. It would be especially helpful for someone in that high snow zone to start keeping good records. Chillan has to be one of the least informative ski areas anywhere. Frustrating because it's one of the best places to ski much of the time per TR's.
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