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post #211 of 220
Originally Posted by Bode Klammer View Post

Sorry to hear other drivers are putting your life at risk, but that's not me. I'm more likely to be the guy calling 911 when you crash, or helping you when you slide off the road.  I've just had a lifetime of wasting my time behind drivers who don't have the courtesy to move out of the way when they are not equipped to drive safely in the snow.


I'm glad you drive safely. I pass people, too. It is hard not to when, as you say, ill equipped folks are clogging the highway. I've helped people out ever since the time, as a youth, a passing stranger helped me and my (parent's) Mercury Bobcat out of a snow bank. Since then I've only had winter capable cars, a tow strap, sand and shovel.

post #212 of 220
Originally Posted by jaobrien6 View Post


You're right, we should get rid of everything in cars that has any chance of breaking.  Power steering (heck, power anything), ABS, Airbags, A/C, Radio.  Keep it simple.  As I type that, I know you're probably sitting there thinking "Yes! That'd be perfect!"

Hmmmm....for many years I had a 1974 full-size Chevy Blazer that kind of fit that description. It did have power steering and brakes, but not much else. No power windows, no air, no back seat, no insulation, front bucket seats covered with vinyl that had long since split in cold weather were repaired with liberal quantities of duct tape, etc. A fine motor carriage!  :D


Power was a 4-bolt Chevy 350 with rebuilt heads and a Holly 4-barrel with mechanical secondaries and a manual choke. It would start in very cold weather, although it needed help once up in Quebec at -50F. To this day, I think the Chevy 350 is one of the best general-purpose utility gas engines ever made.


The rear axle had an Eaton locker in it that helped me through a few sketchy places.


It had headers that needed to be replaced every two or three years because they rusted out at the low point where all the pipes came together. Water collected there, apparently.


It had a 4-speed Muncie truck box - three-speed plus granny. The granny, of course, had no synchromesh. The first of the three road gears had a syncro that mostly just prevented you from getting it back to first gear while the truck was rolling, so you couldn't "grind" the gears. It was possible to get it back to first by double-clutching and matching RPMs.


It had a heavy-duty clutch that was indeed a workout for the left leg. When it failed (i.e., something broke so that it wouldn't disengage), I drove the truck around for two days without a clutch. Bump start in first gear and feel your way through the gears by matching RPMs. Even back then (1980 or so), it cost $400 to replace the clutch.


So I know about simple vehicles with little to go wrong that I can work on myself. It's good that I could do that, because I needed to. It needed points and plugs every 12,000 miles, just like clockwork. It needed plug wires, timing adjustments and diddling with the carburetor. It needed...etc.


It was awful on the highway. No overdrive. Noisy and rough. In the winter, the heater could barely warm the front seats, never mind the back. The back floor was warm mainly because the mufflers were only about 2 inches below it. You sure were connected to the experience, but you didn't have much choice!


Now I drive a 1999 Chevy 3/4-ton pickup. You guessed it - automagic transmission - 4L80E, basically a Turbo400 with overdrive and electronic control. I've had it since new and put over 200,000 miles on it. I hope it never breaks, but it probably will, someday. It's much more pleasant to travel in than the old Blazer, and much less trouble.

post #213 of 220
I saw this nice heel-toe action and thought it would be appreciated here;
post #214 of 220

^That was great. It means a little more when someone who's finished 3rd at LeMans 24hr race says "holy sh** this has power".


Meanwhile, I'll see your heel toe and raise you a frosted doughnut.

Another reason for 4wd- more rubber on the road:



post #215 of 220
Originally Posted by x10003q View Post

If you repeatedly push your car to get it started you will ruin your catalytic converters. Also, some cars now have a safety switch that requires the clutch to be fully pressed before you can start the car.

Yeah, porsche has that. I don't think it would stop you push starting it though, I think it only inhibits the starter motor. Interestingly enough porsche doesn't apply that in all markets. The one I had in the uk didn't have it but my US spec ones have all had it
post #216 of 220

The safety switch on the clutch used to disengage the starter not shut down the power to the plugs/injectors. So...it should work. Newer systems may be different?

Dumping unburnt fuel into the cats from jump starting I guess is the problem x1000 is talking about. However, what's the reality? Doubt on newer cars the injectors will squirt if the crank isn't moving since there's a position sensor.

It's an interesting question.


Can you down shift going over 200mph and on fire?



Edited by Tog - 6/13/14 at 9:05am
post #217 of 220

I always wait for a safe place to pass.  After I pass I am even more careful and attentive; I don't want to be "that guy", you know, the one who passes you and ends up in the ditch 2 miles down the road. 

post #218 of 220
Something crossed my mind
if you drive trough the bend at speed and revs are high, will it hold gear or shit up? (Car with at)
LOL, i see now
Edited by cikamartin - 6/15/14 at 11:18am
post #219 of 220
@cikamartin Definitely don't edit the spelling! An automatic transmission with "**it up" the driving.
On the other hand, I had to drive through LA traffic yesterday. The automatic (automatic clutch with a standard transmission) on the Focus was nice. The clutch on my son's Ranger is failing and I have to drive that through the LA traffic - that will be interesting. Too many boat launches on the little 4 cylinder. It's much easier to abuse a car with a clutch.
I wonder why they don't have a clutch pedal in the Focus. Flip a switch for auto mode or use the old school clutch. Probably we'd abuse the car by launching boats or pulling people out of snowbanks.
post #220 of 220

Ford has announced the Fusion will no longer be available with a manual Tranny. Article HERE. Tens of people cry in dismay. Quite frankly I didn't even know it was even available in a stick. 

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