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post #1 of 24
Thread Starter 

Does anyone know the specifics on how to sign up for the Breckenridge Ski Lesson Club for 2014-15? I'd like to get my wife into that program.

 

Thanks,

 

Rich

post #2 of 24
Probably no one in the ski school product sales offices now, because summer operations have not started yet, but you can try calling 888-576-2754. I don't think there's any website information about "the club". You have to have the season lift pass before you can add the season lesson plan.
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post #4 of 24
Thread Starter 

Thanks! Got it done.

post #5 of 24

See you there, hopefully.

So now there is you, me, @H2OnSnow, and @bounceswoosh from EpicSki signed up. (As far as I know.)

post #6 of 24
Thread Starter 

Not me, my wife. This is pretty much a locals thing, usually.

post #7 of 24
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See you there, hopefully.

So now there is you, me, @H2OnSnow, and @bounceswoosh from EpicSki signed up. (As far as I know.)

and @habacomike 

post #8 of 24
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and @habacomike

 

Mike is an instructor.

post #9 of 24
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and @habacomike

 

Mike is an instructor.

And he is in the lesson club. We ski together often.

post #10 of 24

Thanks, I was confused!

post #11 of 24
Mike is one of the lesson club members recruited this past season to start instructing. He would have to earn a couple certifications before he'd be teaching the lesson club.
post #12 of 24
He has one. With Level 2, he could certainly teach in the lesson club.
post #13 of 24
Yep, I've signed up for the lesson club next season -- gotta get my coaching from Franz. I also have a goal of earning my Level 2 next season. I think my skiing is close. I need lots of work on my teaching...

Mike
post #14 of 24

Glad to hear it, Mike.

 

I would assume that the weekend lessons get pretty full. But wondering if Thursdays group sizes are on the lean side? Might be nice to get some Thursdays off next season to enjoy a few of those.

 

Looking forward to next season already even though this one is not finished!

post #15 of 24

There's regulars every day.  Franz often has groups as large as the weekends on Thurs/Fri.  Partly its because there's a lot of retired locals who have no constraints on when to ski -- in fact, they schedule their "recovery days" for the days with no lesson club!

 

Still, it's a good group to ski with and cutting the lift lines by itself makes it worthwhile.  But if you have flexibility in when to come, I'd choose the weekdays for no other reason than to minimize traffic on I70's impact on your happiness and well-being.

 

Mike

post #16 of 24

What is the maximum class size?

post #17 of 24

Depends on who you go with.  They can get to 14+ people...

 

Mike

post #18 of 24

Anyone doing the Keystone lesson club next season?

post #19 of 24
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Yep, I've signed up for the lesson club next season -- gotta get my coaching from Franz. I also have a goal of earning my Level 2 next season. I think my skiing is close. I need lots of work on my teaching...

Mike

As a Ski & Ride employee, Mike, you should be participating in the LII training the resort offers. Shadowing a bunch of classes with different instructors will help your teaching.
post #20 of 24
As a Vail employee, you can also go to clinics at other Vail mountains. I would be choosy about who to shadow.
post #21 of 24
Thread Starter 

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As a Ski & Ride employee, Mike, you should be participating in the LII training the resort offers. Shadowing a bunch of classes with different instructors will help your teaching.


I was going to say the same thing.  As an aspiring level 2, you would benefit far more from taking instructor-oriented PSIA clinics, level 2 training at your home mountain, shadowing higher level classes, and just having more teaching time under your belt than you would benefit from taking almost any general ski lesson.  Furthermore, PSIA has revised the level 2 requirements for next season so more will be required to achieve level 2 than in the past.

post #22 of 24
All training is not created equal. If you are going for an exam, I feel it is important to train with examiner level trainers. This does not always happen at Breck. You can waste a lot of time in the wrong clinics.
post #23 of 24

I agree with all of the above.  I do intend to take advantage of the clinics (with a particular eye toward the clinicians).  My one clinic this spring was not good as the clinician really wasn't very good.

 

I think my MA is pretty decent largely because of the amount of personal instruction I've received.  I've been very lucky to have received instruction from 5 current or former demo team members as well as from their coach.  But how to translate that into a lesson plan is a weakness.  I suspect I can gain some of this insight by shadowing classes.

 

My whole objective for going down this path is to improve my own skiing.  So I still need personal coaching.  Skiing with Franz in the lesson club will partially fulfill that objective and I trust Franz to help guide my path to Level 2.  While many have the impression that Franz does little teaching, that has not been my experience.  While we always spend the afternoon free-skiing, there's instruction in that (admittedly, a lesser amount) but the mornings (except for powder days) are spent on technique.  I spent more time on pivot slips and wedge christies than I have with any other instructor (besides Bob Barnes).

 

How are the Level 2 requirements changing?

 

Hopefully I'll get to my goal next season!

 

Mike

post #24 of 24
Thread Starter 


Mike,

 

I don't recall all the changes; there was quite a bit of discussion about this a few  months ago when it was  all announced, as there also is some revision of the skills approach, and new manuals will be coming out to cover the conceptual  revisions (http://www.thesnowpros.org/NewsInformation/Newsamp;Announcements/tabid/117/articleType/ArticleView/articleId/443/National-Academy-Day-Two-First-Look-at-the-New-Manuals.aspx), or some cynics might say to sell more books. At the moment, I can't find the link on the PSIA-AASI website detailing the changes in certification requirements, but the one addition I remember for level 2 is the requirement of Childrens Specialist 1 certification.  Parenthetically, level 2 MA is quite formulaic, and includes the required formulation of a "Prescription for Change" based on an ordered series of specific observations and associated MA. I would doubt that personal skiing instruction you've received would give you what you need to pass the level 2 MA exam.

 

Rich

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