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Bindings Not Centered On New Skis

post #1 of 21
Thread Starter 

I'm hoping some of you ski shop guys and industry insiders can help me out with this.

 

I bought a pair of powder skis (115 waist) and bindings at a spring blowout sale, and only got to ski them once before my season ended.

 

When I went to give them a loving hot wax before summer storage, I realized the toe pieces and heel pieces were mounted off-center by anywhere between 3 and 5 mm.

 

I haven't contacted the shop owner yet.

 

It's a small-ish shop.

 

What do you guys think?

post #2 of 21
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Originally Posted by HRPufnStf View Post

What do you guys think?

I think you should talk to the shop owner.
post #3 of 21
Take em baaaack !!!
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post #5 of 21

Sounds like it wasn't noticeable. Makes sense.

post #6 of 21

You don't provide enough info. 3mm on a 115 is a bit over 2%, within normal mounting error for a lot of shops. 5 mm is about 4%, so getting more significant. Also, if both heel and toe on both skis are off, symmetrically, IMO trivial and not worth hassling. If measurement is 5 mm difference for one ski, but not other, non-trvial but very small functional impact compared to normal differences from body asymmetries, mechanics.

 

If 3-5 mm is for one piece, say toe, but not other, say heel, thus creating a diagonal, it could have an impact. In that case, talk to the owner, but be prepared to explain what about it bothers you, not just that you're a perfectionist. 

post #7 of 21
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Originally Posted by beyond View Post
 

You don't provide enough info. 3mm on a 115 is a bit over 2%, within normal mounting error for a lot of shops. 5 mm is about 4%, so getting more significant. Also, if both heel and toe on both skis are off, symmetrically, IMO trivial and not worth hassling. If measurement is 5 mm difference for one ski, but not other, non-trvial but very small functional impact compared to normal differences from body asymmetries, mechanics.

 

If 3-5 mm is for one piece, say toe, but not other, say heel, thus creating a diagonal, it could have an impact. In that case, talk to the owner, but be prepared to explain what about it bothers you, not just that you're a perfectionist. 

 

beyond is a perfectionist even about exactly how to be a perfectionist. :D

post #8 of 21

Nonsense.

 

How do you define "perfectionist?" And be precise; some Venn diagrams would help...

post #9 of 21

God,  I love summertime, self-deprecating, droll humor!

post #10 of 21

I have some skis where the toes ended up about 1/8" over from the heels. My bad :o  Honestly thought they ski just fine. :dunno Could be because they are 192 cms.  If they were 165s that amount of boot crooked would probably have more impact.

post #11 of 21
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Originally Posted by crgildart View Post
 

I have some skis where the toes ended up about 1/8" over from the heels. My bad :o  Honestly thought they ski just fine. :dunno Could be because they are 192 cms.  If they were 165s that amount of boot crooked would probably have more impact.

Get 'em fixed!

post #12 of 21
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Originally Posted by Atomicman View Post
 

Get 'em fixed!


Why?  They're my favorite slop, crud, and mid fat/light powder cruisers just as is..  No need for more holes or inserts..

post #13 of 21
Thread Starter 

OK, I've measured them as closely as I can, and on both skis, toe and heel are both set off to the right.

 

Measuring from the binding centerline, the "left' measurement is 5 mm greater than the "right" on one ski, and 4 mm greater on the other.

 

So one ski is mounted 2 mm off center, and the other is 2.5 mm.

 

I made sure to measure to the edge of the base, not the topsheet.

 

Funny, the only reason I noticed this so quickly is that when compressing the brake for hot waxing, I noticed that one brake are grazed the edge of the ski when retracting, while the other arm easily cleared the edge..........

post #14 of 21

What did the shop owner say?

post #15 of 21
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by Bob Lee View Post
 

What did the shop owner say?

Planning to call soon.  Crazy week, so it may wait till the weekend.

post #16 of 21
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Originally Posted by HRPufnStf View Post
 

OK, I've measured them as closely as I can, and on both skis, toe and heel are both set off to the right.

 

Measuring from the binding centerline, the "left' measurement is 5 mm greater than the "right" on one ski, and 4 mm greater on the other.

 

So one ski is mounted 2 mm off center, and the other is 2.5 mm.

 

I made sure to measure to the edge of the base, not the topsheet.

 

Funny, the only reason I noticed this so quickly is that when compressing the brake for hot waxing, I noticed that one brake are grazed the edge of the ski when retracting, while the other arm easily cleared the edge..........

 

If you have them remounted, they'll have to go either forward or back on the skis so there is enough meat left between the holes.  Maybe 10 mm is the minimum from old hole to new hole.  So you'll have to decide whether to go forward or back on the mount.  Big mountain or park.....

 

Be sure they fill the old holes too.  If they've screwed things up this far, you can't assume they'll get it right without a bit of hovering on your part.

post #17 of 21
2 and 2.5 mm are pretty minor errors. Infinitesimal you might even say, especially compared to a centimeter from moving the bindings.

Just sayin'.

And you didn't notice anything performance-wise when you were skiing them? Me, I'd ignore it.
post #18 of 21

I had a similar issue to this with my Soul Riders that got mounted, they seemed to be outset by 3-4mm on both skis. However while they were offset on the top sheet, they were actually in the center relative to the base, so I'm thinking the sidewalls/topsheet are not even on these. While they do look offset they actually aren't, maybe your's is a similar issue?

post #19 of 21
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Originally Posted by HRPufnStf View Post
 

OK, I've measured them as closely as I can, and on both skis, toe and heel are both set off to the right.

 

I made sure to measure to the edge of the base, not the topsheet.

 

 

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Originally Posted by tsk94 View Post
 

I had a similar issue to this with my Soul Riders that got mounted, they seemed to be outset by 3-4mm on both skis. However while they were offset on the top sheet, they were actually in the center relative to the base, so I'm thinking the sidewalls/topsheet are not even on these. While they do look offset they actually aren't, maybe your's is a similar issue?

 

@tsk94 the OP measured off the base in this case

post #20 of 21

^^^^^Epic Ski needs a "Mount your own damn bindings" tutorial like they have in Tech Talk on TGR.  Honestly, why you guys don't mount your bindings is beyond me.

post #21 of 21
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Originally Posted by liv2 ski View Post
 

^^^^^Epic Ski needs a "Mount your own damn bindings" tutorial like they have in Tech Talk on TGR.  Honestly, why you guys don't mount your bindings is beyond me.


Hahahaha!  There are several threads here if you look for them in tuning and maintenance.  But, I have a pair that are a little off done by yours truly!:o  What's beyond me is why it happens so often at shops where they have the proper jigs, stop bits, and everything!  I've done dozens and dozens of pairs of skis free hand with only few minor mishaps, nothing worse than I've seen in these "shop wrecked my skis" thread though..

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