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post #61 of 71
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Just to quibble, but I don't think Cypress is a volcano, and Mt. Baker ski area isn't really on Mt. Baker proper.

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True Cypress isn't a volcano, and Baker isn't on Baker, but when it was venting close enough to smell it.

The bigger difference is at Baker is you can still go higher - on the North Shore nothing worth doing is higher than the top of the lifts 

post #62 of 71
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1994 Lillehammer was the first not being in same year as summer games - they were awesome

 

A bit of thread drift, but a former two-time American Olympian thought that the worst thing ever for winter sports was the divorce of the summer and winter games.  He said that the result was that it was much harder to obtain sponsorship money and the further result was that much more time, on the part of the athletes, had to be devoted to fundraising at the expense of training.  

 

It's sad to see this spectacle costing host committees well in excess of $10b while athletes go begging to find enough to live on, let alone train.  Kind of like the incredible disparity in the US Ski Team where Bill Marrolt (the former CEO) was taking a salary of over $1m while many of the athletes had to pay to be on the team.  Not sure what the current financial situation is for the US Ski Team now.

 

Mike

post #63 of 71
Thread Starter 

Yet another article about the lack of interest in hosting the Olympics. 

Will this be a wake up call for the IOC? 

 

 

http://snowbrains.com/nobody-wants-host-2022-olympics/

post #64 of 71

For those that missed the details, here is what the IOC required of Norway:

 

 

  • They demand to meet the king prior to the opening ceremony. Afterwards, there shall be a cocktail reception. Drinks shall be paid for by the Royal Palace or the local organizing committee.
  • Separate lanes should be created on all roads where IOC members will travel, which are not to be used by regular people or public transportation.
  • A welcome greeting from the local Olympic boss and the hotel manager should be presented in IOC members' rooms, along with fruit and cakes of the season. (Seasonal fruit in Oslo in February is a challenge ...)
  • The hotel bar at their hotel should extend its hours “extra late” and the minibars must stock Coke products.
  • The IOC president shall be welcomed ceremoniously on the runway when he arrives.
  • The IOC members should have separate entrances and exits to and from the airport.
  • During the opening and closing ceremonies a fully stocked bar shall be available. During competition days, wine and beer will do at the stadium lounge.
  • IOC members shall be greeted with a smile when arriving at their hotel.
  • Meeting rooms shall be kept at exactly 20 degrees Celsius at all times.
  • The hot food offered in the lounges at venues should be replaced at regular intervals, as IOC members might “risk” having to eat several meals at the same lounge during the Olympics.
 
 

The IOC issued a statement responding to Oslo's decision:

 

"This is a missed opportunity for the City of Oslo and for all the people of Norway who are known world-wide for being huge fans of winter sports. And it is mostly a missed opportunity for the outstanding Norwegian athletes who will not be able to reach new Olympic heights in their home country."

 

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I was a guest of the IOC in Sochi and this is indeed what they expect.  I did not want to cause trouble for my host at the time, but it really was over the top.  They simply do not live in the real world.

 

Here I am in a private IOC lounge, with free food, free champagne and a primo view of the venue. I was brought there from our special hotel in a private car. We rode a special IOC gondola not open to the public  I would have been crazy to turn it all down, but I am pained to see the games suffer because of this extreme sense of entitlement the IOC has developed.

 

 

post #65 of 71
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  Kind of like the incredible disparity in the US Ski Team where Bill Marrolt (the former CEO) was taking a salary of over $1m while many of the athletes had to pay to be on the team.

 

I sat next to Bill Marrolt at the XC sprints.  Here we see one of his athletes.  In spite of being the top XC sprinter in the world, she has to work a part time job to get by. His compensation exceeded the entire Nordic team budget. 

 

The true Olympic spirit

 

post #66 of 71
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Originally Posted by newfydog View Post
 

For those that missed the details, here is what the IOC required of Norway:

 

 

  • They demand to meet the king prior to the opening ceremony. Afterwards, there shall be a cocktail reception. Drinks shall be paid for by the Royal Palace or the local organizing committee.
  • Separate lanes should be created on all roads where IOC members will travel, which are not to be used by regular people or public transportation.
  • A welcome greeting from the local Olympic boss and the hotel manager should be presented in IOC members' rooms, along with fruit and cakes of the season. (Seasonal fruit in Oslo in February is a challenge ...)
  • The hotel bar at their hotel should extend its hours “extra late” and the minibars must stock Coke products.
  • The IOC president shall be welcomed ceremoniously on the runway when he arrives.
  • The IOC members should have separate entrances and exits to and from the airport.
  • During the opening and closing ceremonies a fully stocked bar shall be available. During competition days, wine and beer will do at the stadium lounge.
  • IOC members shall be greeted with a smile when arriving at their hotel.
  • Meeting rooms shall be kept at exactly 20 degrees Celsius at all times.
  • The hot food offered in the lounges at venues should be replaced at regular intervals, as IOC members might “risk” having to eat several meals at the same lounge during the Olympics.
 
 

The IOC issued a statement responding to Oslo's decision:

 

"This is a missed opportunity for the City of Oslo and for all the people of Norway who are known world-wide for being huge fans of winter sports. And it is mostly a missed opportunity for the outstanding Norwegian athletes who will not be able to reach new Olympic heights in their home country."

 

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I was a guest of the IOC in Sochi and this is indeed what they expect.  I did not want to cause trouble for my host at the time, but it really was over the top.  They simply do not live in the real world.

 

Here I am in a private IOC lounge, with free food, free champagne and a primo view of the venue. I was brought there from our special hotel in a private car. We rode a special IOC gondola not open to the public  I would have been crazy to turn it all down, but I am pained to see the games suffer because of this extreme sense of entitlement the IOC has developed.

 

 

That's some interesting perspective.  Is it possible that the IOC will figure out that its this sort of thing that's discouraging the venus? 

post #67 of 71
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That's some interesting perspective.  Is it possible that the IOC will figure out that its this sort of thing that's discouraging the venus? 


It reminds me of F1..there is always another "developing country" that's willing to pony up the cash to be in the "Big Leagues" of the world..alienating the rest of the people who actually have an interest in the sport..it'll work for a while..but..

post #68 of 71
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Originally Posted by Trekchick View Post
 

That's some interesting perspective.  Is it possible that the IOC will figure out that its this sort of thing that's discouraging the venus? 

 

Perhaps, but really, it is all they seem to want.  They know the supply of young talented athletes is endless.  They own the Olympics, and they just want to see what they can get out of the awarding of the games.

 

The talk in the lounges and private lifts was not about the competition---it was comparing the perks and the venues to past Olympics, what we got in this city, how they fed us there, what will Korea have for us in four years.  Some of the richest people in sports, and they made sure they did not have to pay for a thing.  Heck, we even had special customs and immigration in Moscow, complete with a uniformed escort to smooth our way to the connecting flight.

 

Here's a fleet of brand new Audis with drivers on standby outside the hotel in case someone from  "the Olympic Family" wants to go anywhere.

 

post #69 of 71

The only mistake the original SLC organizing committee made was getting caught.....

post #70 of 71
I agree with the general sentiment in this thread. The more stories I hear in this town about the Olympics the less I want them here.
post #71 of 71

In a world that is heading toward another major credit crisis, the Olympics are just too expensive to host. The long term marketing and financial benefits are greatly exaggerated. For example, while I would have never have heard of Sochi, or Lillehammer or Alberville without the Olympics, there is still slim to no chance that I will ever visit these places or have them benefit financially from anything I do.

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