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post #31 of 49
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Btw, why cant I find any info on head xrc (without any numbers) that is the only mark on them?
post #32 of 49
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Cannot find edit button.

 

Here is a picture

 

post #33 of 49
http://www.levelninesports.com/Head-Xrc-Skis

No mark along the side, either?
post #34 of 49
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No, nothing, some serial numbers...
I found that level nine site, and on the pictures it looks like pp9, but thats exclusive for them and i bought it in Serbia, so thats far fetched. Interestingly if you type in google "head xrc review" with quotes you get just few sites, with no info, except some video from level9. They look like mine, but video title says xrc pp9.
post #35 of 49
Mr original poster, I have a ski suggestion for you... If I were your coach, and you asked me to take you to the store, I'd think hard about a Nordica Avenger 82. At your weight, you could probably do a 178. This is an excellent ski for someone moving up the learning curve.
post #36 of 49
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Thanks, will try to rent them next season.
post #37 of 49

Pre nego što se upustite u najam i ispit raznih modela, gledajte da vam neko bolje pancerice nadje (ili sadašnje podesi).     Po vašem opisu pancerica  neće se ni jedna skija ponašati kao što je u štampi opisana, sve će se proklizavati u prednjem delu i samo kačiti od pete unatrag.     To je u redu za stil iz  80ih god., ali ni jedan instruktor danas to ne voli i svaki će dati primedbu da se ili previše u struku savijate ili da vam dupe visi unazad.


Edited by cantunamunch - 6/3/14 at 9:53am
post #38 of 49
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Hvala Vam na savetu, mislim da ce pancerice da legnu kako treba posto sad kad sam ih razgazio mogu da vratim kopce za jedno 5cm nazad i da stegnem nogu kako treba, a mislim da u Beosportu u bgu imaju i bootfitting (imaju svakako razne dodatke na prodaju).

Ako sam dobro razumeo, pancerice treba da budu stegnute koliko god je to moguce bez da izazivaju bol, a peta treba da je skroz nazad.
post #39 of 49

Boots should be as snug as possible without having to actually tighten them with the buckles to achieve that.  

post #40 of 49
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Ako sam dobro razumeo, pancerice treba da budu stegnute koliko god je to moguce bez da izazivaju bol, a peta treba da je skroz nazad.

 

Tačno sve to, a ima i dalje.    Na primer, trebao bi neko od tih stručnjaka da vam proveri savitljivost članaka - kad se veliki list (obim noge otpr. 35cm+ pri gornjoj ivici) u pancericu strpa, automatski se savijaju i članak i koleno pa se ne može noga ispraviti dok je đon na tlu.   Ako se noga ne može ispraviti, mišići se premore za minut-dva.    Kopče tu nisu ni bitne, nego ugao između tabana i tzv. 'kičme' pancerice.    Ima tu više rešenja - stavlja se podrška pod petu, seče se gornji deo plastike, omekšava se plastika i unazad savija.   (Example here http://southernski.com/toe-jam-spreader-ultimate-cuff-stretcher.html , written by one of the bootfitters on the site)     Što se uloška tiče, nisu isti kao za hod ili trcanje jer se stopalo ne savija - opet se gleda položaj članka, položaj sredine kolena u odnosu na petnu kost, položaj i savitljivost svoda.

Kad se sve to obavi, za skije je lako - ovih dana skoro i nema baš čisto užasnih.        Ove što ste kupili bile bi divne za nekog početnika ili osrednje sposobnosti do 90 kila, i to naročito na poledici.     Dizajn je od pre pet-šest godina, zna se po razmeri prednjeg dela (117) i struka (71), vezovi su još sasvim u redu.


Edited by cantunamunch - 6/3/14 at 12:46pm
post #41 of 49
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went to pick my boots :)

post #42 of 49
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ok, my leg has 45cm at the end of the boot.

 

The boot fits nice, I could use some lift of the whole foot (did that with some underfoot insert and that felt fine) but part of the leg between ankle and knee is snug in the boot. I have maybe a 0,5cm from toes to the end of the boot. I think that flexibility of the boot is 50 (I asked for that). 

 

Btw, like  skis, it only says Tehnica and made in Hungary on them, no model.

 

Another thing, all this thing that everyone are telling me that I didn't know, compared to car tuning, are they just final touches or engine change?

 

@cantunamunch

prebacio se na engleski pošto nam se sibhusky pridružio (mada i on nešto vidim razume)

 

Pozdrav svima.

post #43 of 49
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ok, my leg has 45cm at the end of the boot.

 

The boot fits nice, I could use some lift of the whole foot (did that with some underfoot insert and that felt fine) but part of the leg between ankle and knee is snug in the boot. I have maybe a 0,5cm from toes to the end of the boot. I think that flexibility of the boot is 50 (I asked for that). 

 

Your calves are definitely quite large, that's just short of 18 inches circumference at boot top.   Not unheard of, though.   50 flex is a very soft boot, esp. for someone your size.      5mm from toes to end of boot - is that with the liner inside the boot?    If yes, that's a lot.       Be prepared to hear that your boots are too big and too soft  for long-term ownership (long term = more than the next, oh, 10-15 days of skiing).     2 seasons from now, you might be looking at boots as well as skis.

post #44 of 49
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Your calves are definitely quite large, that's just short of 18 inches circumference at boot top.   Not unheard of, though.   50 flex is a very soft boot, esp. for someone your size.      5mm from toes to end of boot - is that with the liner inside the boot?    If yes, that's a lot.       Be prepared to hear that your boots are too big and too soft  for long-term ownership (long term = more than the next, oh, 10-15 days of skiing).     2 seasons from now, you might be looking at boots as well as skis.

I am starting to realize that, although don't feel that,  I go as fast as (I feel) I can. With 30 days of skiing that will change. 

post #45 of 49
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Year later update
I sold my big boots to a colegue size 47 (30.5) and bought fisher virion 95 size 27.5❕
It is totaly different feeling, first of all the boot is shorter so it ends before my calves starts, secondly i now feel how the heel should not move. It feels thigt and i must say it is totaly new sensation.
cant wait to test them.
post #46 of 49
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 secondly i now feel how the heel should not move. It feels thigt and i must say it is totaly new sensation.
 

 

:D:p;):DThumbs Up

post #47 of 49
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 I am 183cm, 120kg rather fit for that measures.

 

 

 

I want to ask what would I feel if I went on, for example, Head i.Supershape titan 177cm? (that is the ski that heads internet site wizard told me I should buy, when I clicked that I am an expert :))

 

I personally, being 6'4/235, can attest that the Titans are not suitable for your size.  They are just too soft and maybe not now, but eventually, you would overpower them as I did.  I would look at  markojp's recommendation or something similar.  Another good choice would be a 2012-2014 Rossignol Experience 88 which you can pick up with bindings pretty cheaply right now (~$350-$450US).  You could go with the 186's which might make sense on paper, but they are cumbersome.  I skied on the 178's and never felt like I needed more.

post #48 of 49
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I sold my big boots to a colegue size 47 (30.5) and bought fisher virion 95 size 27.5
 

 Holy &^#@

post #49 of 49
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😁
It is not that horrible, people once skied on woodplanks in leather boots, so im guessing that was kinda like that.

will be on the slopes on sunday to try new boots.

Bice i neki snimak, nadam se 😎
Edited by cikamartin - 2/13/15 at 2:12pm
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