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post #1 of 11
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Hey guys, anyone have any experience with the current-gen Volvo S80? I’d most likely be looking at a T6 (or possibly a V8) from ’09 or ’10. I like the XC70 too, but similarly equipped models are - weirdly - a lot more expensive. Reliability seems to be pretty good. I realize they aren't terribly fuel-efficietn nor are they the best-handling cars out there, but  razor-sharp handling is no longer a huge priority for my daily driver, and I really enjoy the effortless speed and comfort of Turbo’d volvos and I don't do that much annual mileage for MPG's to be a concern. Thoughts?

post #2 of 11

I had an '01 turbo S60 and loved it.  Only had to replace the radiator in 10 years.  Traded in for an '11 AWD Outback when I moved to ski country.  The S60 handled like a Ferrari compared to my current Outback!

 

As to the S80, a friend of mine had one and loved it.  It was an '04 or '05, I think, and she often raved about how great it was and how much she liked it...a big fan.

 

Sorry, that's not much detailed info, but I guess it counts as 1 1st-hand up-vote and 1 2nd-hand up-vote based on owning a similar model. 

post #3 of 11

First I will say, great seats. Volvo has very well the best chairs in the industry with Saab no longer around. The P2 platform or whatever the new S80 is on is a very good one. That AWD system is OK but the shortcomings can be addressed with good snow tires. MPG's is better than most and pretty darn good for a car this size. In buying used, look at the pedigree, the service book. If the car is "booked up", meaning all the service has been done, chances are you have a better than average chance of getting a good car. The LPT (Low Pressure Turbo's) are some of the best turbos on the market in performance and reliability. 

post #4 of 11
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thanks guys, great to hear people have been so happy with them. Noted I should make sure any car I look at is "booked up". And I definitely agree re: the seats - in the few  older-gen S80's and S60's I've sat in, i didn't want to get out of the car.

post #5 of 11

The S80 and XC70 are on the same platform.  The resell on the XC70 is very high (until the 15 model year the only Volvo station wagon left and it has a very loyal following).  For some reason the S80 has never found it's niche in it's resell value is very low.  I read somewhere that is is the lowest of all luxury models in Europe.

 

What this means to me is that a used S80 is a screaming good deal.  Like Phil said, you won't find a more comfortable car.  I have the turbo six in my XC60 and it has plenty of power in a much heavier vehicle.  I really see no reason you would need the V8 in the S80.

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The S80 and XC70 are on the same platform.  The resell on the XC70 is very high (until the 15 model year the only Volvo station wagon left and it has a very loyal following).  For some reason the S80 has never found it's niche in it's resell value is very low.  I read somewhere that is is the lowest of all luxury models in Europe.

 

What this means to me is that a used S80 is a screaming good deal.  Like Phil said, you won't find a more comfortable car.  I have the turbo six in my XC60 and it has plenty of power in a much heavier vehicle.  I really see no reason you would need the V8 in the S80.

 

That's interesting about the take rate and resale of the S80. Makes sense about the XC70's desirability and resultant high resale value - in any event while I'm looking I'll keep an eye out for a [probably non-existant] screaming XC deal. 

 

Yeah, the T6 would seem to be the engine to get - only reason I would consider the V8 is if price were right. It appears MPG isn't far off from the T6, and likewise for longevity/reliabilty (I could see it being even more reliable as it's a N/A motor). 

post #7 of 11

Surprisingly, the N/A V8 has a worse reliability reputation than the T6.

 

Volvo knows how to build turbos (and the T6's mid range torque is more impressive than the V8, anyway).

 

But as a skier, I guess I'd pay a little extra for the wagon's utility, anyway!

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Surprisingly, the N/A V8 has a worse reliability reputation than the T6.

 

Volvo knows how to build turbos (and the T6's mid range torque is more impressive than the V8, anyway).

 

But as a skier, I guess I'd pay a little extra for the wagon's utility, anyway!

 

Yeah that would actually make sense - if anyone knows turbo charging it would be Volvo (or Saab). This is splitting hairs but do you know if the T6 is considered a low-pressure turbo? People seem to always refer to Volvo's superior LPT's and I'm curious if the T6 is part of this group.

 

I hear you about the wagons - definitely haven't ruled them out; even tempting fate with looking at prev-gen XC70's...i mean what could possiblye go wrong? (Simpsons reference ;))

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Yeah that would actually make sense - if anyone knows turbo charging it would be Volvo (or Saab). This is splitting hairs but do you know if the T6 is considered a low-pressure turbo? People seem to always refer to Volvo's superior LPT's and I'm curious if the T6 is part of this group.

 

 

Not sure if it's a low pressure turbo, or not.  Maybe @Grecian or some other true Volvo expert will chime in.

 

It sure isn't a particularly high-boost turbo, even in R-Design form.

 

I still miss Saab!

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Understand this is an S80 thread, but I have a couple of questions and some comments that are only slightly off-topic on the S60.

 

I just pulled the trigger on a '14 T5 AWD. While the S60 is not my first choice, I will have to say that the interior of the Volvo is very nicely done, with well-bolstered, comfortable seats (at least in front) and a relatively simple, decent dash layout along with a tolerable - and switchable - driver display. Performance from the turbo I-5 is decent, if not outstanding, though not quite in the same class as the G37x the Volvo will be replacing. While the trunk is about the same size as the Infiniti's, the Volvo does not include a spare and the design of the lid (conventional curved support arms vs the Inifiniti's X-arm mechanism) takes up some valuable space. The rear seats of the Volvo fold nearly flat however, allowing access to much more space - the lack of folding rear seats on the G37 was one of the few complaints I had about that car. The 12V compressor and tire repair kit in the S60's trunk doesn't really make up for the lack of a spare, and I'm a bit uneasy not having an extra tire. In truth though, it's been well more than a couple of years since I've had to change a tire on the road. I think I'd rather put up with no spare than have the short wearing and expensive to replace run-flat tires that Infiniti is putting on the Q50 that's replacing the G series.

 

The Volvo might not have been my first choice but it seems like a very solid, comfortable, reasonably athletic and competent car. More importantly, it was my wife's favorite of the cars we demoed. Frankly however, the real determinant in me pulling the trigger was the leasing deal -  it is attractive financially but it also includes all service and maintenance covering things that are usually excluded, such as belts, hoses, brakes and wipers, over the life of the lease. 

 

As far as questions, this will be my first Volvo, so I really don't know what to expect in terms of bad weather performance. The Volvo has the Haldex Gen V AWD system which I understand is capable of sending up to 50% of power to the rear wheels. I'm not sure about side to side transfer however. Anyone have any real-world experience with the Volvo system in snow?  A related question: How are AWDs like the Volvo viewed by the authorities when they are checking cars during snow conditions? Would the S60 with naked all-weather tires pass muster or would chains still be needed?

post #11 of 11
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Originally Posted by CharlieRN View Post
 

Understand this is an S80 thread, but I have a couple of questions and some comments that are only slightly off-topic on the S60.

 

I just pulled the trigger on a '14 T5 AWD. While the S60 is not my first choice, I will have to say that the interior of the Volvo is very nicely done, with well-bolstered, comfortable seats (at least in front) and a relatively simple, decent dash layout along with a tolerable - and switchable - driver display. Performance from the turbo I-5 is decent, if not outstanding, though not quite in the same class as the G37x the Volvo will be replacing. While the trunk is about the same size as the Infiniti's, the Volvo does not include a spare and the design of the lid (conventional curved support arms vs the Inifiniti's X-arm mechanism) takes up some valuable space. The rear seats of the Volvo fold nearly flat however, allowing access to much more space - the lack of folding rear seats on the G37 was one of the few complaints I had about that car. The 12V compressor and tire repair kit in the S60's trunk doesn't really make up for the lack of a spare, and I'm a bit uneasy not having an extra tire. In truth though, it's been well more than a couple of years since I've had to change a tire on the road. I think I'd rather put up with no spare than have the short wearing and expensive to replace run-flat tires that Infiniti is putting on the Q50 that's replacing the G series.

 

The Volvo might not have been my first choice but it seems like a very solid, comfortable, reasonably athletic and competent car. More importantly, it was my wife's favorite of the cars we demoed. Frankly however, the real determinant in me pulling the trigger was the leasing deal -  it is attractive financially but it also includes all service and maintenance covering things that are usually excluded, such as belts, hoses, brakes and wipers, over the life of the lease. 

 

As far as questions, this will be my first Volvo, so I really don't know what to expect in terms of bad weather performance. The Volvo has the Haldex Gen V AWD system which I understand is capable of sending up to 50% of power to the rear wheels. I'm not sure about side to side transfer however. Anyone have any real-world experience with the Volvo system in snow?  A related question: How are AWDs like the Volvo viewed by the authorities when they are checking cars during snow conditions? Would the S60 with naked all-weather tires pass muster or would chains still be needed?

Volvo has always had one of the better leasing programs out there. When I was selling them, I was close to 50% in lease retention, meaning 50% of my customers went back into another Volvo lease. Out of the balance of the 50%, some purchased the car off lease, some walked away from the lease and went into a purchase and some just walked away from Volvo. It was very good having 5-8 sales every month already done. 

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