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ON3P Billy Goat or Praxis GPO

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Hi all. Currently riding 98 Line Prophets (179) but looking to add a powder ski to my quiver. I'm 5'11" and weigh 160, I ski the French/Swiss Alps and I mostly do resort skiing but always look for powder so off piste skiing is normal however ripping the groomers to or from the areas desire come into that equation . Don't always get insane amount of powder so I want these skis to be able to charge through crud as I am an aggressive skier which these 2 skis are capable of .

So thoughts? Like to charge but want them responsive as well. I'd be going for the 187 GPO and the 186 BG.

Super unsure, I was considering the 122 Jeffreys but I was thinking these were two wide for resort pow skiing? Or are they still ok? I was thinking the 0 camber might be an issue, can someone help me out with this? I want to float powder and destroy any off piste condition, I already have Line 98s to do the groomer part .

Oh and how do the GPOs measure? The BGs are 186 tip to tail straight measure , how about the 187 GPO?
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I'm seriously toying with the notion of a GPO also...or an ON3P Jeffrey, but yeah, I'd like to hear the collective input on either of them....or a comparison.
 
I've heard tell the BG is burlier than the GPO, and I fondled some BG's at The Plankery in Bend a few days ago.  
They do feel beefy in hand, but I couldn't ski them when I was there.
 
FWIW, TGR has a very long thread on the GPO.  Search under "The Great Pacific Octopus Thread" over there, and you'll find many pages of opinions.
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praxis will measure short since base length is 187, while bg base length is longer than the stated ski length.

praxis has detailed specs on its website

122mm is too much of a jump from 98mm, like Skierish said you are likely to get more responses on tgr, they can provide good feedback if you know how to filter the bs
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122mm is too much of a jump from 98mm, like Skierish said you are likely to get more responses on tgr, they can provide good feedback if you know how to filter the bs

 

Yep. These are two of TGR's favorite skis and there is tons of good info. I think there are even some comparisons floating around. Try a google search with site:tgr.com in it, as the TGR search is often suboptimal.

 

I have the Billy Goats and generally like them a lot. They've changed the 186s a bit since I bought mine though, so I won't comment (plus I haven't skied the GPOs).

 

I've had great experiences with both ON3P and Praxis skis and people, so I'd be happy to ski on either product and support either company.

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Yep. These are two of TGR's favorite skis and there is tons of good info. I think there are even some comparisons floating around. Try a google search with site:tgr.com in it, as the TGR search is often suboptimal.

 

I have the Billy Goats and generally like them a lot. They've changed the 186s a bit since I bought mine though, so I won't comment (plus I haven't skied the GPOs).

 

I've had great experiences with both ON3P and Praxis skis and people, so I'd be happy to ski on either product and support either company.

Ye I've read they're both stellar skis but the Praxis GPO is cheaper as it stands :/ whereas to get ON3P skis shipped to Europe is a lot more expensive. So I have to maybe go down that route as it stands. Currently designing a graphic I might use as well. So we'll see, thanks for the information!

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Let us know what you get. And obviously, what you think of what you got after spending some time on them. Thanks.
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Let us know what you get. And obviously, what you think of what you got after spending some time on them. Thanks.

Will do. Really psyched on designing the graphic itself too. I'm pretty bad at photoshop though so it's going to take a while and I will definitely ask for help from my artist friend.

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I can't speak to the BG. Other than ON3P has a solid reputation.

 

I can say that the GPO is a great all around ski.  Much of my family uses the GPO a decent percentage of the time. It is the kind of ski that just does what you want it to.   

 

I know a former Olympic racer who expects to be using a quiver of Praxis BC and GPO next year. The BC for touring and mountaineering. GPO for "all mountain" - which ranges from inbounds to heli guiding. I can't say there will not be something else in the mix - but I am not aware of anything else specific.

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I can't speak to the BG. Other than ON3P has a solid reputation.

I can say that the GPO is a great all around ski.  Much of my family uses the GPO a decent percentage of the time. It is the kind of ski that just does what you want it to.   

I know a former Olympic racer who expects to be using a quiver of Praxis BC and GPO next year. The BC for touring and mountaineering. GPO for "all mountain" - which ranges from inbounds to heli guiding. I can't say there will not be something else in the mix - but I am not aware of anything else specific.

Ye this is great. I have a 98 Line Prophet that can do everything, I'm just looking for a powder ski that can do everything too but give me more float in pow and make it more enjoyable as I find myself backseating quite a bit in the deep stuff. Charging but yet quite nimble . Haha cool to see you're family all riding this one ski. I would love to try the protests too, but I'm out in Europe so another day. 128 wide yet it still has some camber underneath to keep up performance in other conditions . Don't think I can make the excuse to get a 128 ski here for only resort pow, but one day maybe! Thanks for the input.
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I guess it would depend on the resort POW and the other places you may travel to.
If the GPOs are one of your final choices And less $$ I would send Keith ( believe he's the owner) a email. He's building two pairs for the wife and my self this summer. After a few correspondences we dialed in the lengths and flexes based on other skis we have liked. Other considerations here were the Jeffery's and patrons. Picking your own graphic both top and bottom was also cool.
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