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Favorite Dominator Race Waxes for Eastern Conditions?

post #1 of 25
Thread Starter 
Mostly I have been using Swix and have no complaints, but thought I'd experiment a little and see if I like anything else. I would like to start with Dominator at the beginning of next season & fill the wax drawer now during the usual clearance sales. Nothing against other brands, just trying to keep the comparison simple vs. what I know.

Any recommendations? I would prefer to spend HF-level dinero on a clinic rather than wax, but anything else from Mid-Fluoro down is OK. Actually, it's usually cold enough during the season that HF isn't the wax du jour anyway.

Typical eastern snow conditions- if you don't like the course one week it might be completely different the next. All GS courses- mix of beer league, daily NASTAR, and a couple Masters-level. Thanks in advance for any Dominator-specific advice. Hopefully someone else has already settled on their favorites & can advise.
post #2 of 25

AFAICT  Swix does not currently have anything in the Psycho or Race Bullet Cold slot at all - that (Psycho) was my first grab.   

 

My second was Base Renew - I never really got into using MB77.

 

My  third grab was Dominator Butter which IMO slots up well against F4 as a no-brainer warm wax.   

post #3 of 25
Thread Starter 
Thanks- Definitely going to grab some Base Renew- probably will go for the graphite version. Also getting low on F4, so the Butter should do nicely.

As everyone wants to forget, we had some bitter cold days/nights this winter. I can't remember if I had F4 or accidentally had LF7, but one night on bitterly cold new snow my wax felt like velcro. rolleyes.gif Nice learning experience. COLD wax definitely goes in the kit next season.

Temperatures in the low 20's I think will cover most of the nights. Epic natural snow is not the norm, so it will usually be old snow or fresh manmade. Need wax to cover these conditions. LF7 was my choice last season.
post #4 of 25

I am thinking the same thing, as Artech is having a good sale on wax. I have looked at the Dominator line up and are not really sure what I am going to buy. I am writing a letter to their rep and will post it once I get a reply. Hopefully in the next couple of days.

 

I used Dominator wax this season and my son races. I am sticking to the Zoom series due to low cost and simplicity. My experience so far is that the Hyper Zoom (low fluoro) wax is very good and more slippery than Zoom. Especially good in higher moisture snow. In cold conditions, less than 14F, the regular Zoom (no fluoro) and Hyper Zoom gets sticky and you need to use their bullet wax. There are 3 flavors, which is where I get indecisive on which to buy, I don't want to buy all 3. For spring conditions, the Hyper Zoom is pretty good, but they sell a Butter wax to use as a rub on overlay. At least that only comes in one flavor and I plan to buy it. So for most snow, use Zoom or Hyper Zoom, for really cold use Bullet, and for really warm, use Butter. I bought a large bar of Zoom and a small bar of Hyper Zoom. I have decided to use the Zoom for my family skis and hot scraping. It is very good wax, but the Hyper Zoom is noticably more slippery and more expensive. I used it on the race skis.

 

They also make a Renew base wax. It is soft and I bought the graphite version. It is really good to have as well and will last a long time. They also make a Race Renew, which I haven't tried and get indecisive about. As far as wax goes, way to many choices and very little guidance on what you need to cover the typical range of snow in the entire season.

 

And finally, they make Race Zoom, which I am planning to switch too for my race skis, but more options to choose from and I will wait for the rep's reply to sort it all out. I am thinking in terms of recreation ski waxes and race ski waxes, with lots of cross over between the groups to minimize the number.

post #5 of 25

Similar situation here. I am not a race wax expert by any stretch. Just a hacker like most of us. My comments here are strictly seat-of-the-pants subjective ("Wow, I just skated over to the lift in about half as many strokes as it usually takes me!"), not based on scientific testing. And, like most of us, I end up using a hodge-podge of brands because I can never resist a good sale or the next shiny thing that will make me ski better :rolleyes. Plus sometimes waxes don't get used up that fast and you end up with quite a collection of little stubs from decades past. Seems like lots of the more serious racers like the Holmenkol stuff, but I haven't used any of that since the days of silver wax in 1970, that I crayoned onto the runners of my backyard sled. Not sure I want to make a bad problem worse by introducing yet another brand into the mix.

 

I periodically do a hot-scrape-then-cold-scrape conditioning round with any cheap, bulk soft HC wax. Occasionally I've followed that up with a coat of the warm SVST black base wax or a cold moly base, if I think things are drying out too much. I'm not going to re-up on the SVST stuff because I haven't felt that I get enough of a boost out of it to be worth the rather steep price tag. On top of that my standard main-season (as opposed to spring) wax is the Briko Medium Base Wax that many Bears have recommended with good reason. I just followed their lead. This is a non-fluoro wax that polishes out really nicely and wears well on the ski. I often just go with this alone when not racing.

 

Typical race night for me here in Maine at the local low-elevation hill is 12 - 27 degrees, man-made snow that has seen the underside of a groomer about a dozen times. For temps in the low-mid 20s, the Dominator Race Zoom "old snow" has been my go-to surface wax. (The cold moly seems to work particularly well under this.) A couple times I've waxed friends' skis with this stuff and the reception has been consistently good. I don't use anything more expensive than that so I can't comment on the really fancy offerings. It goes a long way. I bought my second small block this season after having gone 3 seasons with the previous block.

 

I'm still trying to figure out colder conditions. I have a newer cake of the Race Bullet "old snow". Not a lot of experience with it yet. One cold night it was awesome. Another not so much. (Can't remember the details, of course. Should keep a journal on that.) On a third night we had new snow like talc and it was about minus 5 out. I had on a standard cold-temp wax like CH6 or something and it was - as someone else said - skiing on velcro. Horrendous. My best experiences with really cold new snow like that have been with stupid-hard hydrocarbon waxes, notably Start Green, from back in the day. (Note: since I also skate ski, I sometimes get mixed up on which waxes I have liked for Alpine vs. Nordic.) I used up the last of that oldie but goodie this year, and am going to try the Briko BP-1 and see how that goes.

 

I have never sprung for any of the "new snow" Dominator waxes (except the Butter, which is great), so I can't speak to those. (My rationale is that it's pretty rare that we race on new snow, and when I'm not racing I'm probably putting on less expensive wax.) I do not happen to own a Dominator wax that seems to work great in the 28 - 35 degree range. (What would that be?) The ones that have worked really well for me there and which are also affordable (on sale) in both Nordic and Alpine are the T-Series Blue-Pink-Yellow from RaceWax.com. The pink is especially good IME. It's my "old reliable" for right around freezing and just above. All three of these seem to work better at the warm ends of their stated ranges. The blue is nothing special at the cold end of its range, where the Race Zoom really kicks in. I need some good "around freezing" wax Since I'm looking at the Artech sale too, I have to figure out whether I leverage something there or go back to Dr. D. for the pink prescription.

post #6 of 25

I was a Toko only guy and now I'm Dominator only.  I can compare Dominator to Toko.  I just finished my 3rd or 4th season using Dominator.  I'm not going to say its the best but it works well for me and I get consistent results.  Plus having Dom Tom available via epic, email, or telephone call, is fantastic service.

 

When it comes to racing, it isn't usually the wax that makes a difference for me :o but I can tell the difference if I got it right.  I don't need any special overlays.  My skis can already go faster than I can drive them.

FIrst, for race skis, use Race Renew.  For recreational skis use Renew.  I prefer the graphite.  The Race Renew is better though more expensive.

 

For my daughter's race skis (racing is more of a social event than competition) I usually use Graphite Renew and then use Race Zoom paying attention to Old or New.  From talking to Tom, Race Zoom is the equivalent of Toko Red or Black and that felt right to me as well.  What I like about the race zoom, is once the skis have been saturated, I can just rub some on, buff it out and brush off.  Very easy to work with and you get better results than a universal.

 

For our ever so loved NH wicked cold nights, I'll use Bullet.  This would be the equivalent of Toko Blue but is easier to work with.  Some times on my daughters skis, I'll add this to the edges.

 

For my race skis (beer league), I usually have Bullet on my skis.

 

Make sure you get the Race Renew.  I do buy and use the Old and New versions of Race Zoom and Bullet.  It has more to do with durability than performance (I think).

 

I don't have a lot of time now but will try to think more about this over the weekend.

 

It is currently 40% off at Artech.

post #7 of 25

Start Green.

You be on to a real cold weather secret here.

post #8 of 25

By the way the Momentium is a great product.  I'm not a racer but I use the Momentium when I'm on vacation and also when I don't have the time for a hot wax.  It is designed as an overlay for racing I think and works really well, particularly if your base is well saturated.  Lasts much longer than the stated few runs.

post #9 of 25
Thread Starter 

Thanks y'all!  Lots of good suggestions.  I had a gift certificate for Artech, so loading up on sale wax was a no-brainer.  Selection of Race Zoom, Bullet, Race Base Renew, Butter.

 

There was a somewhat cryptic :-) reference to green from dakine.  During the same bitter cold conditions mentioned above by qcanoe I ended up going to Swix CH4 green this season.  Worked fine- better than I was racing anyway and easy to apply if scraped warm.  The LF7 or 6 that I accidentally left on my bases one night was indeed velcro under these conditions.  Tons of fresh natural snow and sub-zero temps.  Every beer league racer on the course had to skid the course 3 rounds before enough 'annoying' powder was cleared for safety.  

 

I have a long way to go before the pricey HF stuff will make a difference, but I have progressed enough that the difference between right wax vs. wrong wax or no wax will be almost 1 second on a 30 second run under typical conditions- YRMV.  Wrong wax on the sub-zero night was absolutely horrendous- I think it was 5 seconds slower.

 

Hi SkiMangoJazz.  Hope you guys had a nice season.  Thanks for the Momentium tip- I may try it against my typical quick fix wax, F4 Swix LF paste.  I always keep a can in the bag.

post #10 of 25
Thread Starter 

Just a follow-up to my Dominator Wax query:

 

Have been on the Wa a few days already.  Have tried both Swix LF7 and Dominator Race Zoom (new snow) so far.  After 30 hard carving runs on SL skis, the Race Zoom was still gliding well and my bases look 'wetter' than did my bases with the LF7 after 20 runs.  The Race Zoom saw a wider range of air temps- high teens to low 40's and seems more versatile- my impression of the Swix system is that it's very fast when you get it right, but it certainly lets you know when you get it wrong.   Both waxes applied via Wax Whizard over Dominator Race Base Prep ironed in.

 

So far I'm liking the Race Zoom and the Wax Whizard is working for me.  I was a little skeptical regarding life of the wax job via this method vs. a hot iron- but I'm pleasantly surprised.  I simply applied and did not brush out, per Mike D's instruction for non-race days.

 

In a few weeks I'll edit this post w/ impressions from the race course and/or different waxes depending upon conditions. So far " src="/img/vbsmilies/smilies/icon14.gif" />.



Night league warm-up race was ironically warm. Lots of corn-like snow, huge ruts, possibly a little wet. Air temp almost 40 F. Spring in December? Race Zoom Old Snow w/ overlay of 'Butter' & brushed out seemed perfect for these conditions. Subjectively faster than F4. Edit- this was an excellent combo. I was able to accelerate on the flats and my times were close to end of last season.

Edit 12/31: Race Bullet New Snow, early AM summit temp 9F. 18F temp at base mid-day. Very slick on settled and/or groomed new man-made snow that was less than a day old. Should be good for a cold race day. Just as grabby as anything else on fresh out of the guns snow. Need to inspect my bases to see how well it held up. Though I'm sold on the Wax Whizard for mid to warm temp wax and conditions, for fridgid temps I'm skeptical it will hold up like a hot wax and scrape.

Edit 1/12: Liking the Race Bullet New Snow so long as it's not on fresh out of the guns manmade. Personal best NASTAR handicap & best average for the day last Saturday. Seemed decent on beer league runs as well at ~4F. Temps for day runs ~7 to 16F. On the fence re Old Snow version & this one darn near impossible to cork (Whiz?) into the base and really needs an iron to apply. I'm accumulating quite a few runs with this wax and application method & my bases still look excellent. Zero sign of base 'burn'. In a week or two I'll add one more post to this to close out my impressions and give the thread a bump.
Edited by Ventura - 1/13/15 at 5:46am
post #11 of 25
Thread Starter 

Final impressions of a full race season on Dominator Race Wax:

 

We had epic snowfall this season, so the conditions were not as variable as in past years.  New-like conditions most days until spring, and quite a few bitterly cold days and ridiculously cold beer league nights.  My combined NASTAR and league racing was 31 days, 166 timed runs, plus who knows how many practice / fun runs.  Not bad for a test of how well the wax protected my bases.  I started the season with a fresh SkiMD full race tune.  All but two days were on these Rossi 9GS skis, other two days on Volkl Racetiger SL's.  I applied via hot waxing some Dominator Race Base Renew before the season and a couple times during, but otherwise all waxing was via Wax Wizard. Here's how the Rossi's look today after all this abuse:

 

 

Above base was waxed the night before my last race day and I made ~8 timed runs plus about 4 or 5 practice/skid runs.  Skis were still running fast on my last run, and you can see in the pic the base looks slick, almost greasy- definitely not hazy or dry looking.

 

Race Zoom, both old snow and new snow versions, was excellent and I definitely will use it again.  Same for Bullet New Snow under appropriate conditions.  Not sure I had the correct conditions to properly test Bullet Old Snow, so the jury's still out for that one.  On the warm, slushy spring days an overlay with Butter was just the ticket.  Faster than NotWax and good for ~4 runs vs. ~2 for NotWax.  I still like NotWax for its convenience and will continue to use it in a pinch.

 

I'll stand by my earlier comment that under ideal conditions LF7 is really fast, but this particular series of Dominator is simpler than the LF series and each is more versatile.  I'll stick with the Dominator next season.  Also thumbs up for the Wax Wizard (Whizard?).  Wax held up well on my bases and I used a fraction of the wax I used when hot waxing.  Takes more elbow grease but was less hassle than iron and scrape.  

 

Only modifications to using Dominator was for the bitter cold nights I first applied some hard, high graphite content wax given to me by our team captain.  This was followed by Dominator Bullet & I was happy with the results.  I think Dominator also offers a high graphite wax, but I'm all set for a while.  Still looking for the best option for fresh out of the gun man-made snow.  Maybe there's no such thing.

post #12 of 25
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Only modifications to using Dominator was for the bitter cold nights I first applied some hard, high graphite content wax given to me by our team captain.  This was followed by Dominator Bullet & I was happy with the results.  I think Dominator also offers a high graphite wax, but I'm all set for a while.  Still looking for the best option for fresh out of the gun man-made snow.  Maybe there's no such thing.

 

Maybe Psycho?

post #13 of 25
166 timed runs? Awesome. My biggest gripe by far about my league is that they don't allow practice runs. So... nine nights, two runs per night. Hard to improve with that little gate time. And since Nastar is getting so scarce and the unreliable*, that's not much of a remedy. frown.gif

* Areas that advertise Nastar but you can never tell on a given day whether they're actually going to set a course or not. They seem completely unaware that some customers might have driven there and bought a ticket specifically to run Nastar and not for any other reason.
post #14 of 25

I quit all that mixing and went to Hot Sauce. Only two choices and worked great for me. I am not a serious racer. Or maybe I am serious but dont know how to race!

Moving to Dominator
Edited by levy1 - 9/21/16 at 6:55am
post #15 of 25
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Originally Posted by Ventura View Post
 

Final impressions of a full race season on Dominator Race Wax:

 

We had epic snowfall this season, so the conditions were not as variable as in past years.  New-like conditions most days until spring, and quite a few bitterly cold days and ridiculously cold beer league nights.  My combined NASTAR and league racing was 31 days, 166 timed runs, plus who knows how many practice / fun runs.  Not bad for a test of how well the wax protected my bases.  I started the season with a fresh SkiMD full race tune.  All but two days were on these Rossi 9GS skis, other two days on Volkl Racetiger SL's.  I applied via hot waxing some Dominator Race Base Renew before the season and a couple times during, but otherwise all waxing was via Wax Wizard. Here's how the Rossi's look today after all this abuse:

 

 

Above base was waxed the night before my last race day and I made ~8 timed runs plus about 4 or 5 practice/skid runs.  Skis were still running fast on my last run, and you can see in the pic the base looks slick, almost greasy- definitely not hazy or dry looking.

 

Race Zoom, both old snow and new snow versions, was excellent and I definitely will use it again.  Same for Bullet New Snow under appropriate conditions.  Not sure I had the correct conditions to properly test Bullet Old Snow, so the jury's still out for that one.  On the warm, slushy spring days an overlay with Butter was just the ticket.  Faster than NotWax and good for ~4 runs vs. ~2 for NotWax.  I still like NotWax for its convenience and will continue to use it in a pinch.

 

I'll stand by my earlier comment that under ideal conditions LF7 is really fast, but this particular series of Dominator is simpler than the LF series and each is more versatile.  I'll stick with the Dominator next season.  Also thumbs up for the Wax Wizard (Whizard?).  Wax held up well on my bases and I used a fraction of the wax I used when hot waxing.  Takes more elbow grease but was less hassle than iron and scrape.  

 

Only modifications to using Dominator was for the bitter cold nights I first applied some hard, high graphite content wax given to me by our team captain.  This was followed by Dominator Bullet & I was happy with the results.  I think Dominator also offers a high graphite wax, but I'm all set for a while.  Still looking for the best option for fresh out of the gun man-made snow.  Maybe there's no such thing.

We used Race Zoom for years when my boys raced and still do. Also BOTH FLAVAS OF Renew AND Q6, srb32  OVERLAYS. 

 

Race Zoom makes things really simple. Of course we rarely get your low temps out here, but have skied in the -7 F to -3 F range  the last couple of years. this year....Almost NO snow. I skied 4 days! :(

post #16 of 25

I really like the durability and simplicity of Dominator.  Coupled with the simplicity and speed of the wax wizard makes it even better.  I do probably hot wax more than I need to but that is mostly because I didn't wax wizard after each ski day either.

post #17 of 25
Thread Starter 

Additional comments much appreciated!

 

Cantunamunch, Psycho for extreme cold- you think it might be good on say ~25F degrees with the guns blazing away?  I think the just fallen artificial is going to be sticky always, and dangerously sticky under certain conditions.  I haven't found anything that really works on this, but lucky for most of us in the east this season was great for natural snow.  Next season???

 

Qcanoe, I hear ya regarding race schedules.  Our program isn't too bad about posting other events (high school regionals, Special Olympics, etc.), but there have been a couple days that the course was down without any notice.  There also have been days when the NASTAR course was surprisingly open after a special event.  I'm a slow learner, so the quality of your nine nights might be better than all the runs I made!

 

levy1, one of our better racers (~9 handicap) uses hot sauce.  So far, I can't keep up with him but I'm getting closer. He's a big fan of Hot Sauce.

 

Atomicman, I'll see if I can find any clearance deals on those overlays!  You're out west?  Bummer about the snow.  My ski widow (wife during the rest of the year) wishes you would have had all of our snow this season- all time record total snowfall here.

 

L&AirC, I did use the wax wizard before almost every race day.  If the crowds were ugly on a weekend NASTAR day and I couldn't squeeze in very many runs, or perhaps a couple times after a few quick runs during lunch on a weekday I might have some leftover wax on my bases.  As soon as I detected a little dryness / hazing, I'd break out the Race Renew and iron it in at a relatively low 120F degrees.  As many runs as I made, I only did this ~3 times during the season.  

 

Per Mike deSantis recommendation, I never touched the bases with anything more aggressive than a stiff nylon brush.  His race tunes are outstanding and helped me to make some major improvement in my racing this season.  The use of the Wax Wizard preserved the nice structure he put on my skis.  Maybe the Wax Wizard covers can be washed and renewed, but I have two that are pretty much spent.  They are only a buck or two each, so the tool has still paid for itself many times over in only one season.

post #18 of 25

Ventura,

 

I have been following a similar regimen as you with identical results. I use Mike at SkiMD and have heard his suggestion to not hot wax. I have a Wax Wizard and like it a lot. I do find it doesn't saturate the base with wax as well as a hot wax. But using it cuts way down on the number of times I hot wax. I have some notes from a couple of conversations with the Dominator Rep, forgot his name, and he might have mentioned something about wax for fresh man made snow. I will check my notes and see what I have for info. I don't have any personal experience on a good solution, especially since this year I didn't ski on man made very much. Will get back to  you.

post #19 of 25
Thread Starter 

Just a pre-season follow up for this thread:

 

Dominator tech support replied to my fresh man-made query and recommended a very thin Q6 overlay.  Even if we have some nice accumulation this winter, in the east I would expect the larger resorts to start off laying down a base of man-made when the weather permits.  Despite such great snow last season, early in the season we did have a couple days with that velcro-like fresh man-made on the course.  I'll give the Q6 a shot.

 

Dropped off my Rossi's at SkiMD last week.  Mike and the rest of the crew were impressed with the condition of my bases considering the high number of runs since the grind.  I'll actually avoid a grind this year on those- just a touch up & edge sharpen.  In the off season I picked up some Head masters GS skis that will get the full boat tune.  FYI to all, Mike has bought out the remaining share of WaxWhizard and now is the sole owner.  The tool is now named Pro-Glide and is available with the aluminum tube, not the PVC one.  I thought the PVC was at times a PITA to hold the cloth- aluminum should be better.  Maybe some other upgrades too, and it's still a good deal and will pay for itself quickly in wax savings.  Per Mike's recommendation, this season I'm going to try cleaning my race ski bases with Swix liquid spray wax (F4 if I recall correctly) instead of ironing in the base renew.

 

I hope everyone out west has an epic season.  I know you were robbed last season.  Let's hope El Niño delivers!

post #20 of 25
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Originally Posted by Ventura View Post
 

Just a pre-season follow up for this thread:

 

Dominator tech support replied to my fresh man-made query and recommended a very thin Q6 overlay.  Even if we have some nice accumulation this winter, in the east I would expect the larger resorts to start off laying down a base of man-made when the weather permits.  Despite such great snow last season, early in the season we did have a couple days with that velcro-like fresh man-made on the course.  I'll give the Q6 a shot.

 

Dropped off my Rossi's at SkiMD last week.  Mike and the rest of the crew were impressed with the condition of my bases considering the high number of runs since the grind.  I'll actually avoid a grind this year on those- just a touch up & edge sharpen.  In the off season I picked up some Head masters GS skis that will get the full boat tune.  FYI to all, Mike has bought out the remaining share of WaxWhizard and now is the sole owner.  The tool is now named Pro-Glide and is available with the aluminum tube, not the PVC one.  I thought the PVC was at times a PITA to hold the cloth- aluminum should be better.  Maybe some other upgrades too, and it's still a good deal and will pay for itself quickly in wax savings.  Per Mike's recommendation, this season I'm going to try cleaning my race ski bases with Swix liquid spray wax (F4 if I recall correctly) instead of ironing in the base renew.

 

I hope everyone out west has an epic season.  I know you were robbed last season.  Let's hope El Niño delivers!

Do you know how much Q6 costs? I would not use it for free skiing  $140.00 for 20 grams. That is less than 3/4 of an ounce!  And an application only lasts 1 race run!

post #21 of 25
Thread Starter 

Thanks Atomic Man-

 

Yeah, I'm aware of the price- yuk!  I'll buy some liquid F4 for cleaning purposes, but otherwise I'm all set for wax this season and that tiny little block of Q6 would be my only spend.  Except for new footbeds, I'm all set for equipment too.  I know, there's no fun in that...  I do plan to swap my Volkl non-FIS 170 SL's for some WC SL's.  I tried the non-FIS for training last season and did not care for them for that purpose- they don't hook up like a WC ski.  Mine are in great shape so an even swap for used WC is likely.

 

Of course the Q6 not for free skiing and not even for NASTAR unless I do regionals.  Thought I'd get at least 2 runs, which is enough.  Not sure if there are any comparable options at a better price- the HF overlays all seem to be big bucks.  I'm on the fence for pulling the trigger- but I've never tried a HF overlay so it would be interesting to see if it makes a difference.

post #22 of 25

Have you sorted a -25F to -10F new manmade  free skiing combo yet?

post #23 of 25
Thread Starter 
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Have you sorted a -25F to -10F new manmade  free skiing combo yet?

No.  Ugh...  I hope we don't repeat some of the minus F days we had last season.  Something like -13F at base, take off a couple degrees for the summit.  I still have a ton of Swix CH4 and would blend that with graphite.  Either that or Dominator Bullet, depending on how much Bullet I have left.  

post #24 of 25

*grin*  I confess I actually enjoyed those, particularly on those aspects with upslope wind where the new snow would get milled into fine powder as it was blown about.

 

EDIT:  I also confess that I would have really liked one of those wearable sleeping bags  for the walk out to the parking lot.


Edited by cantunamunch - 9/21/15 at 9:28am
post #25 of 25
Thread Starter 

Last winter I finally broke down and bought a full size working parka.  Not the trendy/pricey Canada Goose, but you get the picture.  I need to find a pic of someone wearing something similar on expedition or working an arctic oilfield as evidence to restore my manhood around the house.  My wife calls it the girl coat because of the length  :ROTF.  I try to argue my case but...

 

Spousal ridicule aside, on those ugly cold nights I was toasty warm while in the line-up at the start shack.  When stepping on the snow it was squeaking at the highest pitch I recall- that's a sure sign it's cold.  Graphite & Bullet wax night.

 

I too like the dusty, dry powder that comes with such temps.

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